Self-inflicted lung cancer vs Unwanted pregnancy by brutal rape: Which gets covered?

[Nikki Stone1]

That's what the Stupak amendment did yesterday.

[malaise]

1. Anything that affects males more than females is covered

Any bet viagra is covered!

[cali]

2. this is really yucky- your post I mean

and pointless too.

unrecommended.

[Nikki Stone1]

3. The truth can often be yucky

Especially when you're a kid. :)

[Inspired]

14. I agree with you, Cali. Unrecommended. n/t

[lillypaddle]

23. Me too

Let's not pit illness against illness, medical procedure against another. Everyone should have their health care covered eventually. This OP is di visive in its premise. We are divided enough as it is. Unrec'd.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

4. I am on your side but not a fan of this formulation

The problem is what isn't covered, not what is.

[Nikki Stone1]

5. I'm not a fan of a lot of what's been spewed about this topic on this board.

So, be it.

[Schema Thing]

6. Abortion in the case of rape is covered, isn't it?

Not that I disagree that it is sleazy to have included anti-abortion in the insurance equation at all.

[Ruby the Liberal]

7. I thought it preserved the Hyde Amendment

And if so, rape is covered (as is incest and life of the mother).

[DemBones DemBones]

8. That's what I read, too.

[Hello_Kitty]

13. It expanded upon it.

Strips women of coverage for abortion that they previously had.

[Ruby the Liberal]

29. As in people trying to retroactively file claims?

Sorry, no go for me on that argument. The can-o-worms is too deep.

[etherealtruth]

9. I am a strong advocate for a woman's right to choose ...

I am not a fan of demonizing those experiencing the fatal effects of addiction.

Both should be covered under any health plan.

[Ilsa]

10. People shouldn't have to explain or justify how they got pregnant

or developed or contracted a disease. There is too much judgment inherent in it, and it isn't right or fair.

[frazzled]

11. Both, technically

The Stupak amendment does permit federal funds for abortion in the case of rape, incest, and the life of the mother.
Sorry, but it so happens that that's what it says.

Right now, however, if you need insurance on the private market, you probably can't get it if you smoke. Definitely not if you have lung cancer. The new bill will ensure that no American can be turned down.

[lapfog_1]

12. My reading and all stories that I've read about the Stupak

amendment... show that there are exceptions for covering abortions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother.

I don't like the amendment, I think every legal procedure should be covered, but lets not muddy the waters with misinformation.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

19. +1

[greennina]

15. There are more Republican smokers...

than there are women in the Republican party. That's why they don't care about us.

[geek_sabre]

16. unrec'd...

[MajorChode]

17. That picture is fucking brilliant

I just stole it, BTW.

[provis99]

18. Pregnancy isn't a health problem. False equivalence.

[Lars39]

21. Pregnancy and childbirth can kill or permenently injure you.

[Odin2005]

26. *SARCASM* That's what those sluts get for having sex! *SARCASM*

[Odin2005]

20. +1,000,000

[Hepburn]

22. Oh, I see that the anti-choicer, forced birthers have found the UnR button.

:puke:

[Odin2005]

24. My usual refrain: DU is infested with misogynists.

[lillypaddle]

25. I am hardly anti choice

nor a birther.

[etherealtruth]

28. It couldn't possibly be that the situation presented is vile ....

... and many strong advocates of choice are also strong advocates of ANYONE requiring medical intervention receiving it, could it?

I am disgusted by many posts, of late, trivializing a woman's right to do as she deems necessary with her body ... my disgust will not cause me to lash out at other groups (i.e. those experiencing the fatal effects of addiction, obesity or anything else).

People with health-care needs should be able to receive health-care .... period.

[Ruby the Liberal]

30. Hi Hep. I am not anti-choice. I disagree with

the picture the OP paints. The bill does NOT say this.

[Egnever]

27. Both

The amendment yesterday did nothing to restrict either. Despite your poutrage.