The Stupak Amendment is an Abomination to the Democratic Party

[berni_mccoy]

The Democratic Party Platform is Pro-Choice.

From the party platform document ( http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/8a738445026d1d5f0f_bcm6b5l7a.pdf ):

Choice
The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman’s right
to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all
efforts to weaken or undermine that right.

The Democratic Party also strongly supports access to comprehensive affordable family
planning services and age-appropriate sex education which empower people to make informed
choices and live healthy lives. We also recognize that such health care and education
help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies and thereby also reduce the need for
abortions.

The Democratic Party also strongly supports a woman’s decision to have a child by ensuring
access to and availability of programs for pre- and post-natal health care, parenting skills,
income support, and caring adoption programs.

Those Democrats who voted for such an amendment need to reevaluate their party status.

This amendment is clearly discriminatory, anti-choice, anti-woman and very anti-Democratic. We must pressure our Senators to have it stripped in conference. However, I fear that Reid will include such language in his merged bill. Remember, he has not yet merged or revealed anything about the merged SHELP/Finance bill. If we had as many Democrats in the Congress vote for this amendment, I believe there will be similar numbers in the Senate. If Ted Kennedy were still alive, I wonder if he would have supported such an amendment to get the bill passed. It will be interesting to see what Sen. Kerry does. Sen. Kennedy was and Sen. Kerry is Catholic. Kerry has always said personal beliefs do not need to be legislated. I hope he stands by that position.

As such, much pressure needs to be put on Reid and assuming it does not end up in the merged bill, we must pressure our Senators to not support such a bill and have it stripped in conference.

[Oregone]

1. So are many "Democrats"

[emulatorloo]

3. Abomination is a good name for Stupak and the ones who voted for it.

[BrklynLiberal]

8. DLCers....

[emulatorloo]

2. I am calling my Sens and Reps tomorrow -- STRIP IT OUT OF THE FINAL BILL n/t

[BrklynLiberal]

4. Here is a petition from Planned Parenthood that you can sign

http://www.ppaction.org/campaign/hcr09bse_ppan?rk=S7z--1dq7PJeW

[PeaceNikki]

6. Another DUer blames PP for this "legislative mess".

[BrklynLiberal]

7. Any specifics?

I have never seen any documentation of their supporting a compromise on women's health care.

[PeaceNikki]

9. No. The poster thinks women's groups should just STFU.

[BrklynLiberal]

13. Oh... Should we stay in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant?

[Tesha]

19. Along with "Gay" groups. "Peace" groups. "Economic fairness" groups

Basically, everybody who isn't just like a Republican should sit down
and shout up.

But in 2010, I'll remember all of these calls to sit down and shut up
and when I'm asked to walk the wards or make phone calls or donate
money for these "Democrats", I think I'll just sit down and shut my
checkbook.

Tesha

[Odin2005]

18. Signed!

[Sebastian Doyle]

5. Mandatory corporatism is ALSO an abomination to the Democratic party

When you call your hotline numbers tomorrow to demand the deletion of the Stupid ammendment, remember to mention the corporate blowjob part of the bill as well.

[The Magistrate]

10. Hear Hear, Ma'am!

[tonysam]

11. A lot of Democrats are anti-abortion, especially

those from the Catholic faith who otherwise support Democratic principles.

The party has never been a monolith. The fact is given how divisive abortion is with the public, no "pro-choice" provision will EVER be a part of ANY health care reform legislation.

Let's just face reality here.

[BrklynLiberal]

14. Religious beliefs should not play any part in legislation! Especially when it,

in effect, forces one groups beliefs on another.
Just because something is so..does not make it right ..or something that should be accepted without a fight.

All this "right to life" crap is an attempt by insecure men, and ignorant women, to control women and their bodies.

No one forces anyone else to have an abortion...and if you cannot become pregnant, you should have no say in what a pregnant woman decides.

Interesting how "celibates" and those that must remain unmarried are dictating rules about this to the rest of the world.

:rant:

[paulsby]

22. tell that to martin luther king

i mean the reverend martin luther king.

ever read any of his writings?

he worked to get his beliefs, which were in large part informed by religion, put into law. see: various civil rights legislation.

it's a silly thing to say that religious beliefs (or a-religious beliefs) should play no part in legislation.

also, many people in the anti-slavery movement were informed by their religious beliefs.

[Hepburn]

15. Oh, bullshit....

...just let the discrimination be cuz it always been that way?

With attitudes like yours, we would still have slavery.

Sheesh....

[Tesha]

21. The reality we must face is that a great many Democratic politicians are cowards.

And they're proving it yet again.

Tesha

[LWolf]

12. Yes, and so are the Democrats who voted for it. nt

[Odin2005]

16. It's an abonination to HUMAN RIGHTS and HUMAN DECENCY and DIGNITY!!!

:grr:

[robinlynne]

17. The Stupak ammendment inclusion was a direct agreement between Obama and

the one republican who voted for the bill,according to an article I read today on Du or huffingotn post. Decied in a phone call between Obama and CAo, the stupak ammendment and a lot of money for his district were how obama bought the one republican vote. I really don't understand why. It looks like more of that bi-partisan shit.
I am not excusing anyone who voted for this AT ALL. simply stating facts at least according to the article posted today, written I think by AP). . that is why it is in the bill. Politics of this sort make me sick to my stomach.
votes are bought and traded on the floor all day long.

[derby378]

20. But, but, the Stupak amendment is "better than nothing," right?

Right?

Guys?

Can I get a "w00t, w00t" here?

:eyes:

[berni_mccoy]

23. I'm glad the bill passed, but I am offended by this amendment

See how easy that works?

The majority of the most pro-choice Dems also agree with me.

[Stinky The Clown]

24. There are a disturbing number of people ON THIS BOARD who are defending them.

The defense is on the basis of supporting the rest of this crap bill.

Principles seem suddenly very ephemeral.

[Mithreal]

26. They always were to those folks. At least they are consistent.

[Mithreal]

25. The moderates and Presidential folks don't give a tinker's dam

about party platform when it conflicts with the President or his lackey's plans.

Thank you for focusing us.

K&R