Where do you stand on abortion?

[cynatnite]

Since there seem to be so many accusations about an influx of anti-choicers here on DU I thought a poll might help put things in perspective.

[PeaceNikki]

1. You won't get honest answers.

Because some like to THINK they are pro-choice... but are perfectly ok with restricting access and think that they are still 100% "pro-choice".

[cynatnite]

12. I have yet to see a DUer advocate for restricting access. n/t

[PeaceNikki]

13. Anyone who supports Stupak or is "okay with" Stupak advocates restricting access.

[cynatnite]

14. I have not seen anyone who supports him or advocates that...

Are you saying that because some here on DU don't view it as the end of woman's rights as we know it? Maybe some of us see this as something that is nowhere near being law and a lot can happen between now and 2013 when this bill kicks in IF it makes it to Obama's desk.

I really wish more people had gotten their underwear bunched up in all the times that states like Oklahoma continually works to restrict access on a regular basis. I actually only saw a couple of threads on that. It's being fought right now because they are working so hard to keep women from having abortions.

There are a ton of threads on this, but hardly nothing on what's happening in other states across the country.

I find that interesting.

[Starry Messenger]

16. I just did a search and found 20 threads alone on Oklahoma's restrictive proposals.

:shrug: Perhaps you kept missing them.

[cynatnite]

34. Thanks for searching. n/t

[PeaceNikki]

18. The choice forum does discuss those topics regularly.

Sadly, they tend to sink in the "general" forums. I agree, I wish we could get more interest in the topic outside of HCR because there are regular attempts to restrict access.

There are plenty who have said "I don't want taxpayer money paying for abortions" in regard to this HCR and have said it's perfectly acceptable that Stupak was included. In fact, on DU, abortion has been called "eugenics" (thankfully that poster was banned), "baby-killing" (poster not banned), "murder" (also not banned), etc. I could go on.

I know that this bill has a long way to go and that we can hope that it be stripped. I am just pissed that the DFLA threatened to kill HCR if further restricting access wasn't added.

[cynatnite]

35. I do agree there does need to be more interest...

It's a fight that doesn't get enough attention. I don't blame you one bit for being pissed.

[Tesha]

36. Three DUers (so far) apparently aren't being seen by you. (NT)

[kenny blankenship]

2. You forgot the option: "I support a woman's right to choose, except if it's politically expedient

to take her rights over her own body away, in which case I am a coward."

[saracat]

22. + I million!

[noamnety]

3. You need another option

"I support a women's right to choose unless it's politically expedient for them not to have that right."

I believe that's where most of DU falls.

[Greyhound]

4. Left out the pro-abortion option. n/t

[flvegan]

5. As a man, I stand where I should. Absolutely pro-choice.

I should have zero say about what a woman cannot do to her body.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

41. +1000

[tandot]

6. Pro-Choice

[havocmom]

7. Not only support right to choose, but have defended it with my body

Send $ to Planned Parenthood, and if their clinics in your area draw a lot of protesters who harangue, yell at, or photograph people who go their for medical care, call and ask what you can do as a volunteer. Then DO it. It gives one a whole lot better perspective on why choice is essential and just how fucking awful the forced birthers are.

[anonymous171]

8. Personally, I support a woman's right to choose. Politically, I don't really care. nt

[DesertFlower]

9. pro choice. nt

[friendly_iconoclast]

10. If you don't like abortion, don't get one

n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. "If men could have babies abortion would be a sacrament."

And, you can bet that there would be "compromises" on the table.

[Ineeda]

19. you took one of my favorite lines! (from the 70's)

Actually IIRC, it was, "If men could get pregnant...."

[Bonobo]

32. Stupidest quote ever.

[Arugula Latte]

43. Men who don't support a woman's right to choose can go fuck themselves. nt

[Starry Messenger]

51. I like that quote too.

:thumbsup:

[Iggo]

55. And women, too.

People, in fact.

[eleny]

15. Support it

[sandnsea]

17. I support an abortion rider

and if a woman is too "ashamed" to check that box, then she really isn't pro-choice. Further, if a man is too cheap to check that box, then he's not taking responsibility for fatherhood and is also not pro-choice or pro-woman.

And you didn't make a pro-abortion choice because I am pro-abortion. They're cells people.

[saracat]

21. And perhaps all people should be provided with the funds to pay for that ryder.

Why not have ryders for all medical procedures some deem unnecessary then? Why should a women's medical procedure be treated differently than anyone elses?

[TwilightGardener]

20. Personally very conflicted about the morality of it, probably wouldn't have had one--

but I believe it should remain legal.

[Swamp Rat]

23. I am PRO-ABORTION, and I stand by a woman's right to choose under any circumstance,

which is none of my business. :)

[Liberal_in_LA]

26. +1

[Solly Mack]

24. Support it

[Liberal_in_LA]

25. Those who vote 'I'm am against..." are against until they want one or their daughter

wants/needs one.

[LWolf]

27. Unlike all of those who voted for the health insurance bill

with the Stupak amendment,

I support choice AND health care for all women.

[optimator]

28. i hate that abortion is even an issue

politicians are laughing at us now that we will fight among ourselves over an issue solved 35 years ago

[tech9413]

29. As a man, I don't think I have a right to an opinion

As a thinking person with a basic understanding of biology, I would consider it ridiculous to think that an undeveloped fetus has the level of brain function that could be considered a sentient being.

[northernlights]

30. if abortions had been legal in 1953, I wouldn't be here

And I support the right to abortion 100%.

Nobody should be forced to have a baby they don't want.
Nobody should be forced to be born into a world that doesn't want them.

[MiniMe]

31. I am totally pro-choice, but it does bother me when in some cases,

it is used for birth control. And I'm talking when it is used as the only method of birth control. I'm not talking about the case where they made a mistake. I read on a women's health message board one time a post about a woman who had just had an abortion. That was fine with me. But it was a month later and she thought she was pregnant again. It was a message board, and maybe she was just trying to create a stir, but that bothered me. And she admitted that she hadn't used birth control. I think that kind of instance is rare, and I'm not even sure it is true, but that kind of thing is the one time it bothers me.

[Hepburn]

38. So what if it is used for birth control.

What someone does in the PRIVATE parts of his/her life is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

[cynatnite]

42. That stops when someone posts their private business for all to see...

That woman gave the public the right to comment on her decisions by making her actions common knowledge.

Besides, everyone comments about things people do all the time. If someone disagrees with what another person does they have just as much right to make a comment about it as anyone else does.

What they don't have the right to do is attempt to stop that person from making a legal choice and that's not happening here.

[adamuu]

33. Should be Safe, Legal, and Rare. n/t

[bigwillq]

37. Pro-choice (nt)

[FLAprogressive]

39. I am sick of myopic people (on both sides-mostly RWers) who make it a black-and-white issue.

Like most things it is not one.

I support legalized access to safe abortions pre-viability. I also support post-viability abortions if the life or health of the mother is threatened. I suspect that most people here do.

I also support reducing the number of abortions through birth control and stronger adoption programs.....

I personally don't believe it should be used as a form of birth control. But I'm not the one making that choice.

[City Lights]

40. I am pro-choice. nt

[Rectangle]

44. I pointed out to a RW'er that you want to get Gov't out of our lives,

but you're perfectly happy with it intruding into
womens medical decisions. Never got a straight answer
out of him on that one!!

[cbdo2007]

45. I support a woman's right to choose, but I also believe that someone

choosing to have an abortion is one of the most horrible things a person can do, except in cases of rape or when the life of the mother is at stake.

[PeaceNikki]

46. Ah, so you support "choice with the right to judge". Nice.

:thumbsup:

[cbdo2007]

54. Yep....do you want to ban people from judging now also?

I'm sure you do your share as well.

Thanks for your concern though.

[Unvanguard]

47. Pro-choice, no exceptions. Should be safe, legal, and affordable, and I have no moral problem.

A woman's body is hers to do with as she sees fit.

[tekisui]

48. 4 trolls should be banned for their vote.

[gleaner]

49. I chose ....

"I support a woman's right to choose." Period, the end. No one else has the right to decide for another person what they must or must not do with their bodies. And to OP down the line, I am telling the truth. I have been pro choice all my life. I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Odin2005]

50. Firmly and absolutely pro-choice.

[Xenotime]

52. 1000% pro choice. It's a woman's body and her decision

[slackmaster]

53. I think abortion is something to be avoided and should be done as early as possible

But I wouldn't go so far as to say I am against it.

I do support womens' right to choose.

[juno jones]

56. I like the judgemental steak a few here have about women

who get abortions for reasons they don't 'approve' of.

My mom always said 'It takes two to tango.' So what, no judgement for the men responsible? It's not like all of them are scrupulous about birth control either. I've known quite a few who disliked condoms and were more than happy to leave birth control and it's attendant responsibility to women. But then again, men don't have the opportunity to publically display a physical process as a result of sex.


I'm just happy I have a tubal and never have to personally worry again. Maybe that will lower my 'insurance' rates in 2010. :sarcasm:

[cbdo2007]

58. You make it sound like women don't have a choice who they have sex

with and when they do it. Like they can't control themselves enough to not have sex with a guy who isn't wearing a condom.

[Dogtown]

57. I support womens' *unconditional* right to choose

without ANY restrictions or impediments.