The Republicans ought to worry that the Dems passed abortion restrictions last night

[eleny]

I don't like the abortion amendment - at all.

But the anti Choice crowd has to gag down the fact that the Dems are the ones with the "big tent". Rep. Cao voted for the House bill because of the amendment initiated by the blue dogs. There's no denying that the Dems delivered to the "pro lifers".

I hate the amendment and want it stripped in conference. So we shouldn't raise it up a flagpole. But the politics of this makes the Republicans look like eunuchs. I believe it's why Steele wouldn't get off the subject of the governor races on tv this morning.

This is as much a thorn for them as for us since we literally stole their main family values issue from them. All but one Republican voted against the final bill last night. Oh, that's bad - very bad.

[Vinca]

1. That's a good point. I also wondered if, after this thing is passed -

assuming it passes - if there couldn't be a legal challenge about the abortion exclusion. After all, it is a legal procedure and even though it is an elective procedure, there are other elective procedures covered. For example, I might think circumcision is a waste of money, but that's covered.

[eleny]

2. I'd be so bummed to see it remain but you make a good point

The fight to get it out would be huge and as you illustrate, complex.

The tough thing now is not being able to play up something that mightily cuts the Repukes off at the knees. I wonder how the blue dogs in that group play up their "accomplishment" of last night? Will they keep their interviews local? Surely FoxNews wouldn't be all that interested in cheering them.

This could be a huge dilemma for the right wing. Why bother voting Republican when they aren't the party that delivers the goods?

[Vinca]

3. On a side note, is it wrong for me to hope a whole lot of Republican

women who don't want kids get knocked up?:rofl:

[eleny]

4. Why would they stop now?

:rofl:

[robinlynne]

9. no. the result would be lots of little republicans.....

[eleny]

5. P.S. Why wouldn't we call Republicans in the House and ask why they didn't vote for the bill?

Isn't it worth it to them to get abortion restrictions any way they can? Isn't the life of one "baby" worth it to them - huh,huh?

[OHdem10]

6. The GOP think it will be stripped out when the Senate gets their

legislation and the two bills are reconsciled.

The Conservatives in Va are already asking their new governor
to make a similar law for state of VA. No state money for Abortions.

[eleny]

8. Can you imagine if the tables were turned?

They'd be crowing and be damned with all the logic and finer points and details.

Today, they'd have us by the throat for failing to make progress toward passing some of the steepest restrictions to choice. They'd be howling from the rooftops how we turned our back on our base and *refused* to take the first step in advancing the saving of lives - the lives of babies.

You know how they play their hand. They'd take a pair of deuces and make it look like a royal flush.

Btw, we've had that restriction on public funds here in my state for many years. :(

[DearAbby]

7. Maybe we should make it where

those who are unable to afford it, can go to a privately funded organization. Don't make Abortions illegal, just dont make it where it's federally funded.

[eleny]

10. That's a pretty steep restriction since it makes it so difficult for the poor

It sounds like you think it could be inevitable that this amendment will be passed by the Senate.

[DearAbby]

11. I do think it is inevitable.

people's views on abortion is changing, for whatever reasons. I would find it worse if it were banned completely, as the troglodytes want. The Senate is ultra conservative compared to the House. The House barely passed the health care bill by 5 votes.

[eleny]

12. If that's going to happen then we should be bellowing from the rooftops how they spurned their base

In fact, they couldn't even deliver the 100% nay vote that they promised. They couldn't even intimidate the one fairly new Congressman who held out against that effort? How weak is that!?

I'm imagining how they would be framing the conversation today. They'd own us.