I'm not happy with the Stupak amendment, but you do realize that some of the Congressmen. . .

[wndycty]

. . .that you are willing to denounce and throw under a bus on this issue may very well be the champion of or the deciding votes on other pieces of legislation that you want to see.

I am not excusing the vote and I wouldn't mind seeing some of these Congressmen getting a primary, HOWEVER without the support of a few of them we might not have gotten a health care reform bill passed and going forward some of these folks may make the difference on immigration reform, minimum wage, Don't ask Don't Tell, the repeal of DOMA, etc.

[Hello_Kitty]

1. Dealbreaker for me.

Forced birthers can fuck off IMHO. Even if they are Dems.

[Hepburn]

4. +1....

...how does it feel to be considered a second class citizen to a fetus?

:grr:

[Hello_Kitty]

7. And I love how people here are okay with it.

Probably the same people who are willing to "compromise" on gay marriage. :puke:

[Hepburn]

16. You noticed?

Bunch of blue nosed bigots ~~ they need to get their lives out of other people's bedrooms and wombs.

[chimpymustgo]

2. Jesus Christ. Thank God we weren't relying on these assholes to pass civil rights laws.

Fuck 'em.

[calimary]

9. This should be a post of its own. Should be a meme of its own.

Should be a bumper sticker and poster and campaign battle cry of its own!

:thumbsup: :yourock: :applause: :toast: :headbang: :patriot: :kick: :fistbump:

[saracat]

12. Uhh, I tried that argument. I was told there is no comparison and how dare I!

[JerseygirlCT]

3. I'm highly skeptical

that anyone so eager to throw women's rights under the bus will be standing up to support gay rights.

Or, probably, the rights of immigrants.

They're more likely to continue voting like the Republicans they are.

[Starry Messenger]

5. People who vote down feminist issues

usually don't do well on gay rights as far as I know.

[Heidi]

6. As they saving their support for women's and gay rights for an election or something?

I only ask because now would be a very good time to cowboy up and do the right thing for Americans who are every bit as deserving of respect as the so-called "base" of (apparently) straight, white men.

Many of us have long memories and it's always the right time to do the right thing.

[OKNancy]

8. Insurance won't pay doesn't mean no abortions.

Most clinics offer payment plans. First term abortions cost between $300 and $600 so people will just have to come up with it.
Medicaid pays for abortions, so I don't see it as a huge hardship for a large number of people.

[saracat]

10. Spoken as someone to whom those amounts of money are neligable. I couldn't come up with that money

now. If people just have to "come up with it" why don't people jusyt have to "come up with it for all other health conditions" ? Why bother with HCR reform at all? And why should women be subject to a mandate for insurance that doesn't cover them 100% ? I guess pregnancy will be treated as the single pre-exisitng condition that isn't covered if you want to terminate it.

[Hello_Kitty]

13. Medicaid doesn't pay for abortions in most of the country.

CA and I think one other state provide them.

At any rate, this amendment strips abortion coverage from women who previously had it under their insurance plans, and offered women the option of an insulting "abortion rider". I doesn't matter whether or not you think it will cause a hardship. It's a slap in women's faces.

[Greyhound]

15. Yes, don't let the facts alter your misconceptions. I'm sure YOU'LL be just fine. n/t

[Warpy]

11. Antiabortion laws kill women

and that's the bottom line.

Nothing else you mentioned is as immediately fatal to half the population.

[Greyhound]

14. God tells us that women are nothing but chattel! Now sit down and STFU

before we have to beat you for your own good!
:sarcasm:

Unbelievable, isn't it?
:eyes:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Putting arsenic in your coffee is OK because they might add sugar later?

No thanks.

[Prism]

18. Anti-choice pols are rarely pro-gay

So, no, I'm really not thinking a politician hostile to a woman's reproductive health is all about the LGBT community. I'm not sure I have ever, anywhere seen that to be the case. I'd like to see these magical congressional districts that are anti-choice but super gay friendly.

A politician who is conservative about the freedom of women is typically conservative about the freedom of everyone.