Parents: Would you let your 13 y.o. son. see an R rated film that......

[Smarmie Doofus]

... "is rated R for bloody violence"?

Help resolve a family mini brouhaha. The film in question in "Boondocks". The idea is that I will accompany *Junyah* and sleep thru the aforementioned so that he can legally get in.

Non-parents and parents to be invited to opine as well.

[ncteechur]

1. probably not but i would review the film first

[FSogol]

2. Nope. Junior can watch it in the future on dvd when he's old enough. n/t

[Mz Pip]

3. I guess my first reaction

is that if the parents feel okay about their kid seeing this movie then they should be the ones to take him.

[grantcart]

4. no but I would take him to one that is rated R for sexy images and encourage him to fine one of thos

[TwilightGardener]

12. LOL.

[CC]

5. I never really censored what

my son saw but always talked about what was seen. He tended to sensor himself until he was ready for different movies or TV shows. Then again I had to take a sister home from the movies once because they wouldn't let her in at 16 since it was rated R. The movie was Blazing Saddles.:crazy:

[seemunkee]

6. Do you mean Boondock Saints 2?

A lot depends on the kid. Has he seen the first Boondock Saints? Have you?
Stay awake and discuss it with him afterwards.

[Smarmie Doofus]

13. Thanks, but I really can't stay awake thru bad movies.

I just am unable.

( Yes...Boondockk Saints 2; he says he saw the first one on tv... I didn't know about it. ( He may have actually seen it online.)

[DesertRat]

7. No

[seabeyond]

8. i am not seeing a movie boondocks in any of my googlin. a series? nt

[seabeyond]

14. found boondocks saints.... no i would not let a thirteen yr old watch with the violence

Very violent

Lots of gunfire with bloody results

A man has his throat slit

A man is beat to death with a hammer, we see blood leaking from a wound in his head

A man has his stomach blown out from the back of him with a shotgun. He falls to the ground, gargles on blood and then dies.

A man is shot repeatedly

Several very bloody and graphic shootouts with numerous people being shot all over.



my 12 yr old wouldnt want to watch it anyway. my oldest may not be bothered, 14. but doubt if i would let him watch either. some violence i allow. as they get older, the more allow. but this sounds like they work at showing the shit and that i dont allow.

[Smarmie Doofus]

15. Sorry:" Boondock Saints 2". nt

[aSpeckofDust]

9. I would. I watched all of the 80's gorey action flicks when I was young.

Movies don't change kids, bad parenting does.

[dalaigh lllama]

10. Well, you might consider he'll be more awed by the fact

that he got to see an "R" movie than by the movie itself. I had my pre-teen son watch "Rainman" with me back in the day because I thought it would be edifying. Afterwards, when I asked him what he thought, his first comment was, "Wow! You let me watch an "R" movie!"

I'm not familiar with "Boondocks." Why do you think he should see it?

[Smarmie Doofus]

18. I took him to see R rated Grand Torino three times.

He loved it, so did I. There was graphic violence but it wasn't glorified and there was a complex storyline that included a lot of interesting and worthwhile themes. Not to mention good film making, acting etc.


>>>Why do you think he should see it?>>>

I *don't* want him to see it. But I have opened the door with Torino and a couple others.

[seabeyond]

23. it wasn't glorified ... exactly. that is the difference. and no you havent opened the door

explain the difference. i have two boys, and they clearly know why i allow some movies with sex and violence, and not others.

any of the movies sex is used as porn, merely for male entertainment, the woman dehumanized, a thing for use. is a no. when violence is used in such a graphic manner.... no

they get it. they dont rebel against it. further, they do appreciate the boundaries. they dont want to see it all. regardless of what some people say

i have a couple sites that are pretty good at detailing the stuff in movies

[dalaigh lllama]

24. Those are good points

I like that you do your own movie rating based on solid differences between these.

[seabeyond]

25. it is so hard for a parent. a parent reads the shit and thinks no way, yet seen

it is not a big deal.

then again on the other hand, in pg 13 like op said, .... they can have shit in it, that is expressly to entertain young male in such disrespectful way to female, feeding on a cultural push that females are to be used, that i wont let the boys watch.

i have found in computer games especially, they will make a big deal, and the big deal not be there.

very hard for a parent to stay balanced in all this crap. and i dont want to have to watch all these movies and paly all these games first

[TwilightGardener]

11. I have a 13 y.o. son--he plays "M-for-Mature" rated video games, because

they are pretty much inescapable in his crowd. I'm not happy about the violence, but I don't think it's had an impact on my sons--they know real from fantasy. Same as I did at their age. As for the movie--he saw a pointlessly-gory horror movie (without my permission, I might add) and was kinda disturbed by it, so maybe you should screen it first, or get word-of-mouth, or just wait for video. Edit to add: at his age, I'm more protective over sexual imagery.

[Frances]

17. Waiting for the video seems like a good idea to me

I remember when my young daughters asked for permission to see Risky Business. I took the request very seriously and discussed it with other parents, co-workers, etc. Finally, I told my daughters I thought they should wait till they were older to watch it. Two weeks later, one daughter said, "Remember Risky Business? I saw it at a friend's house." The other daughter said, "I saw it at a friend's house too."

[TwilightGardener]

21. Yep--it's so hard to control what they do over other kids' houses, I'm finding.

But even the ratings themselves don't mean much--my husband rented "Yes Man" with Jim Carrey, it was PG-13 so we assumed it would be somewhat family-friendly, and there was a scene where a little old lady took out her dentures and very obviously was performing oral sex on Carrey. We were all kind of embarrassed, and I stopped the movie and wouldn't let my kids see the rest. Is that what passes for PG-13 anymore???

[LiberalFighter]

16. Based on the preview I saw online I would not.

In my opinion the kid can wait until he is older.

Too much damn killing and stupidity.

[RKP5637]

19. I would watch it with him and discuss it with him. My reasoning being sadly it's impossible

(I think) for kids to escape violence these days. Somehow he's going to see violence, just some of the stuff on TV gets pretty bad IMO. To me, it's better to see it with him and discuss it afterward.

[Posteritatis]

48. Considering both are about vigilantism there'd probably be a lot to discuss

The first one was no Citizen Kane, but I can see it putting interesting questions in the head of a kid who hadn't had them occur yet.

[Sinti]

20. Has he read the reviews? It sounds kind of lame.

Review here:
http://www.cinematical.com/2009/10/30/the-boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day-review/

It's a sequel, have you seen the first one?

I would have let my son see it at 13, and then we would have talked about it. Actually you can use any kind of creative venture (movies, books, comics, music) as a great gateway to talking about all sorts of moral and ethical things, as well as potentially unwanted behaviors. Without a reason you just sound like a preachy wind bag to your child, IMO, with a gateway it's a whole different story.

He's going to see it anyway, if not now when i comes out on DVD, his friends will watch it I'm sure. So, why not use it as a "teachable" moment, everyone wins.

[Frances]

27. This is a very practical approach

And it works much better with a DVD where you can hit "pause" and discuss what has just happened.

[Sinti]

33. Yes, it does

and the movie in question sounds like it's a quick to DVD kind of affair. So, you could say "I'll let you see it with me when it comes out on DVD." But, you have to keep to your word, or the child won't believe you the next time.

[Posteritatis]

46. The original was one of those kind of deliberately bad sorts of movies

Sit back and enjoy the cheese, that kind of thing. I liked it in part because of the schlock.

[The River]

22. Only If

you don't mind desensitizing him to acts of violence.

[msongs]

26. R rated movie screening rooms are crammed with 13 n under people as it is nt

[951-Riverside]

28. Sure why not, they're already looking at porn n/t

[beyurslf]

29. The only R rated movies I screen from my teens are the gang-banging

drug-dealing hype movies that seem to have 2 or 3 come out every year now with a famous "rapper" in them. They don't need to watch some loser asshole in a gang, being violent, selling drugs, and all that other bullshit they glorify. It is not the violence per se, but the glorification of the gang lifestyle and the holding those losers up as role models or protagonists in the story that makes me ban them. They get enough of that from music on the radio.

[ensho]

30. NO - when the first chain saw movie came out my boys wanted to

go and see it with their friends. I said NO. why would you want to see people being sawed up and killed? even if its not real? they couldn't come up with an answer.

they didn't see the movie or any like it.

[Brickbat]

38. +1.

I've told my kids that there's enough violence in this world that the vast majority of violent movies do absolutely nothing to help us understand it or fight it. The whole Saw thing makes me sick, frankly. Why on earth would anyone want to watch that? It makes me sad.

[TwilightGardener]

41. That's the one my 13 year old watched, without my permission or knowledge--

I think he only saw a part of it (he volunteered this info), but it was enough to really disturb him. I guess I should be glad that it bothered him. He is not interested in ever seeing that kind of thing again. Edit to add: I never watch stuff like that--I had to force myself to watch "Private Ryan", and that violence wasn't even gratuitous. I don't know why this would be entertainment for anyone either. Sick stuff.

[Brickbat]

44. Sometimes the best thing that can happen is that they see it anyway and realize what crap it is.

I'd be glad too -- it sounds like it's punishment enough for the sneaking around.

I don't like watching it, either -- all I can think of is that as bad as it is, it's probably happening to someone, somewhere in this world, and that's bad enough that there's no reason to watch a representation of it.

[poverlay]

31. My son is 13, and YES. Throwing yourself bodily in front of every beheading and breast is like

abstinence only programs. It just makes 'em wonder what their missing and makes 'em want it all the more.
Not watching these things is a personal choice that we all made at some point. I have full confidence in my son to make the right choice. Whichever way he goes will be right for him.

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. No

[Are_grits_groceries]

34. Here is the trailer for it.

http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/26452/the-boondock-saints-ii-all-saints-day/videos/boonsaints2_trlr_090209.html

I don't think so. It is about vigilantes with a religious overtone.

[Oregone]

35. Yes depending on film

[ShamelessHussy]

36. not for that movie

but we do watch other R rated movies together... It all depends on the story.

:hi:

[donco6]

37. Nope.

I just wouldn't facilitate it. I see what happens to kids who gorge on that stuff.

[Brickbat]

39. Probably not. If you're questioning it, I'd venture to say that you think you shouldn't either.

It depends on the movie, of course. What does he gain by watching it? What does he lose by not watching it? If he absolutely MUST see it, I think you're right that you should go along.

[a la izquierda]

40. I wouldn't, but I'm not a parent...

the first Boondock Saints was incredibly violent, and glorified such things. I'm not a prude, and I don't have a problem with violent war movies...but this one is probably as bad as the first.

To be fair, I wasn't allowed to watch mob movies as a kid, because my mom thought they'd color my understanding of my heritage.

[Frank Cannon]

42. Here's a link to the "Parents' Guide" on IMDB for Boondock Saints II

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1300851/parentalguide

From the description, it doesn't sound too much different than most of the crap 13-year-old boys are exposed to today.

[cynatnite]

43. We let our 10-year-old kid watch District 9...

If we're not sure, we'll watch a movie first before allowing him to see it.

[Posteritatis]

45. If you mean Boondock Saints 2, I definitely wouldn't be sure about it

Not a parent, though I am a male probably in the middle of BS2's target audience given some of my movie tastes.

Of course, it depends on the kid too - if he'd watched through, say, Band of Brothers, then Boondock Saints would be child's play to him.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

47. Sure.

The R rating's for crazy prudes.