Those who voted against this must be so proud

[ProSense]

Starting next year, private insurers could no longer deny anyone coverage based on preexisting conditions, place lifetime limits on coverage or abandon people when they become ill. Insurers would be required to disclose and justify proposed premium increases to regulators, and could not remove adult children younger than 27 from their parents’ family policies.

For the elderly, the group that has been most skeptical of Obama’s initiative, the House package would immediately offer discounts on prescription drugs and reduce a gap in Medicare prescription drug coverage, closing it entirely by 2019. Uninsured people who cannot get coverage could join temporary high-risk insurance pools, and unemployed workers would be permitted to keep their COBRA benefits until the public plan and insurance exchanges started in 2013.

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[Barack_America]

1. But we had a 0.000001% chance of something better!

And we should always hold out for the 0.000001% chance!

[livetohike]

2. Thanks for the summary ProSense

My disgusting Congressman is getting a call on Monday for his usual opposition to all things Obama. He is a Freshman Republican.

[Retired AF Dem]

3. I remember once upon atime

Stay in the military long enough to retire and your medical will be free. Well that turned out to be a fucking lie. I don't trust the Govt when it comes to my healthcare.

[ProSense]

4. "I don't trust the Govt when it comes to my healthcare. "

So you're against Medicare?

[Retired AF Dem]

5. One on the perks of the volunteer military was supposed to be

If you stayed in for 20-30 years your healthcare would be free. Well that did not turn out to be true. Just take a look at Tricare. I'm not against Medicare, but my guess it wont be there once I hit 65.

[itsrobert]

7. So $460 a year for your family or $230 yearly for individual plan is too much?

Sounds like a bargain to me.

[Retired AF Dem]

8. But that wasnt the promise was it?

[itsrobert]

9. Maybe you should put your energies into better Dental Care plans

Family and Retiree dental plans suck.

What dental plan do you recommend by the way?

[DainBramaged]

11. wow, just wow

thank you for your service. However, maybe you should look carefully into Tricare and see over the past 29 years, who fucked with it. Democrats have ONLY had control of government for basically 3 out of the last 29 years, so maybe you need to see who messed with your 'promise'.

[Retired AF Dem]

12. Just maybe you should review your history

and see which party has controlled the Congress the longest over the past fifty years.

[many a good man]

16. Also matters who is in the WH

And fiscal hawks in blue seats, but your point is sadly correct.

[DainBramaged]

17. I have and I stand by what I said. I guess the Reagan era is unapologetically forgotten by many here

:shrug:

[Warpy]

6. Aw, poor baby

Since you're not getting a completely free ride and have to pay for supplementary insurance, you think the rest of us should be screwed completely.

Just try thinking outside your own little box for once and imagine what it's like to have a chronic illness and nothing but slammed doors from insurers.

Thank you for your service, but it doesn't give you the right to be that myopic.

[Honeycombe8]

10. The few less people who would've died from no health care - don't have the "NO" votes to thank.

I'm sure they're proud.:patriot:

I wish we could identify the ones whose lives would be saved, and send their pics to the NO votes, so they can know what whose lives they did NOT take part in saving.

[ProSense]

13. More of what the anti-reformers voted against:

“For all Americans, this legislation makes a big difference: no discrimination for pre-existing medical conditions, no dropped coverage if you are sick, no co-pays for preventive care. There is a cap on what you pay in but there is no cap on the benefits that you receive. It works for seniors closing the donut hole, offering better primary care, and strengthening Medicare for years to come. It works for women preventing insurance companies from charging women more than men for the same coverage. No longer will being a woman be a pre-existing medical condition.

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Supporters of gay rights have long been trying to change the tax treatment of health benefits provided by employers to the domestic partners of their employees. In effect, such benefits are now treated as taxable income for the employee, and the employer may owe payroll taxes on their fair-market value.

Under the bill, such benefits would be tax-free, just like health benefits provided to the family of an employee married to a person of the opposite sex.

Representative Jim McDermott, Democrat of Washington, who proposed the change, said it would “correct a longstanding injustice, end a blatant inequity in the tax code and help make health care coverage more affordable for more Americans.”

Joseph R. Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights advocacy group, said federal tax law had not kept up with changes in the workplace.

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[Cleita]

14. What vote? Nobody asked me for my vote. n/t

Have you ever done COBRA? The sticker shock usually insures that you won't even opt for it if you lose your job. Those people who need cobra the most will be the least able to afford it. They did do some good things for Medicare, but you managed to extrapolate what is useful in this bill into two paragraphs. What does the whole 1,000 pages cover? Not much.

[bigtree]

15. All of those could be dealt with in THIS Congress

. . . as separate legislation, given all of the support these initiatives have with our Democratic majority. To suggest that this is the best the could do or would do if this failed is just not credible. They still have to face voters in the midterms.