God Bless you Dennis

[AllentownJake]

You were a voice in reason today in a sea of insanity.

[ProSense]

1. .

:rofl:

[Sebastian Doyle]

2. Thank God for Dennis

if only we had 435 more like him. Or even 218 more like him, we would have passed a REAL reform bill tonight. :evilfrown:

[elocs]

18. I thought He is God here at DU. n/t

Just remember that Dennis spelled backwards is "sinned".

[HughMoran]

23. lol

Good one

[theFrankFactor]

144. Nah, Dennis is a Liberal. That's Like Being a Commie or Worse... a Republican to...

"Centrists" wussies here.

[luvspeas]

3. My husband would appreciate a giant picture of Kuchi's wife....

A giant picture of Kuchi is not such a good thing.

[AllentownJake]

Here you go

[Cali_Democrat]

9. Kucinich reminds me of the ugly wealthy person that gets the hot chick

Very unbecoming IMO.

[dana_b]

76. nah - just a guy who sticks to his principles

some women like that.

[Cali_Democrat]

82. She is attracted to his power and influence

No different than any other gold digger.

[dana_b]

86. oh!

so you know her! you sat down and had a chat with her? how cool!!

[Dr.Phool]

142. I have sat down and chatted with both for hours.

She is wonderful, sweet, intelligent woman.

[Hippo_Tron]

87. Kucinich doesn't have any power or influence

Guess she's digging for something that doesn't exist.

[Starry Messenger]

95. Wow.

Would you also say that about Michelle Obama?

[WilliamPitt]

96. We need a new category

for unintentional DUzys.

Wow.

[roody]

107. LOL. What power and influence?

[Maat]

118. Uh, I've met Elisabeth and talked to her many times ...

you couldn't be more wrong, and you should apologize.

[quakerboy]

121. wow

Its interesting when inner ugliness rears its head. Unfortunate in a way though, because its hard to look at people the same after that.

[Myrina]

153. +10

:applause:

[NikolaC]

127. You Know Her Personally Do You?

What a condescending thing to say. She happens to be a very intelligent and accomplished person in her own right and, obviously, found qualities in Dennis that made her want to spend her life with him.

[sabrina 1]

130. I bet you supported this wealth care bill

with the same amount of intellectual acumen and knowledge of how it will work for the poor, as well. You attribute nefarious principles to a woman you don't even know, I doubt have ever spoken ot.

She is attracted to a man who has principles. I think you are projecting. After all those who are willing to support the party in power, probably do it because they are powerful.

In the past year, Kucinich lost two brothers and his beautiful sister. Even in the middle of what must have been incredible grief, he continued to fight for what Democrats voted this party into power for. He fought for a universal health care system like every other civilized nation.

It is sickening to see the so-called 'left' cave to every bush-like policy simply because it is their party doing it.

K&R for a man of principle and his wife, who I assume is as lovely on the inside as she is on the outside.

[sabrina 1]

131. Agree, very sexy to women, men who stand up for their principles

[freddie mertz]

141. That is just plain nuts. And mean-spirited. And sexist to boot.

You should wash your mind out with soap.

[ChadwickHenryWard]

162. You forgot your "sarcasm" tag.

Both times.

[Mari333]

94. [phone]

when a man acts like a man, and has principles, and doesnt sell out like a cheap whore to the highest bidder, women love it.
Unfortunately many dems (dinos) sell out to the highest bidder, like cheap hookers.

[Ikonoklast]

113. What about his first two wives?

Three must be the charm, eh?


If he was a Repuke, people would be bashing him for that, but DK gets a pass.

[Go2Peace]

126. If you want to be the "Morality Police" you should go to freeperville. We don't do that here

[dana_b]

134. what does that have to do with his principles regarding this bill

or any other bill?

I have no idea why he broke up with those women so if you're inferring that he has no principles because he got divorced, then I guess a lot of us here have no principles!

[Greyhound]

78. Hate to burst your derision, but he's far from rich.

She loves him for his courage and his principles.
:wow:

[Cali_Democrat]

80. Hate to burst your bubble, but Kucinich is a politician that has power and influence

I doubt that she would be with him if he was some bum on the street.

Very similar to hotties that date rich guys with ugly mugs.

[Greyhound]

103. LOL!

If you knew the first thing about them you would know how ridiculous that is.
:rofl:

[RetroLounge]

125. and you just exposed yourself as uninformed and an idiot.

:eyes:

RL

[urgk]

135. Wow. Is there some kind of hidden contest to see who can contribute the least?

I've seen a lot of useless comments on DU, but this may top them all.

Congratulations.

[sabrina 1]

145. Yes, because we all know that women, especially if they're

pretty, are just empty-headed bimbos who don't know any better. :sarcasm: Seeing how there appears to be a small consensus on this 'democratic' board in support of that view of women, I thought I better include that tag.


Do you know this woman btw?

[spiritual_gunfighter]

149. Cali_Democrat is a DU name I will always remember now. n/t

[CLANG]

161. How about the intelligent and good-hearted person getting the "hot chick"?

[Vidar]

89. I'm damned proud of Dennis.

[geek tragedy]

4. He sided with the Teabaggers.

Fuck him. Fuck the other 38 who voted the Teabagger party line.

[AllentownJake]

6. More troops in Afganistan is supported by the Tea Baggers as well

So I guess the President is a Tea Bagger on that issue.

[geek tragedy]

8. Do the Teabaggers even have a position of Afghanistan? nt

[AllentownJake]

11. Dick Amrey and Dick Cheney do and they are their leaders

and it is more in line with the President than Dennis's posisition

[JVS]

61. The t-shirt says "Kill em all and let God sort it out".

[Ikonoklast]

114. Dennis voted to send them there.

Their beef is with him.

[bread_and_roses]

115. He sided with the 70+% of americans who wanted a decent public option. The teabaggers will make

hay from this monstrous mess of legislation, which will assure a failed "public option" (in quotes, obviously, because it's not), endless bureaucracy and admin costs - just grist for their mill. I can't understand how anyone who can say "fuck dennis" and compare him to teabaggers can call him/herself a progressive of any stripe.

[NikolaC]

128. How did he side with the teabaggers?

Have you read his reasons for not voting for the bill? Read that and tell me again that he sided with the teabaggers.

[Xicano]

146. How did he side with the tea baggers?

Tea baggers are crying about socialized health care. Dennis voted no because this bill isn't socialized health care, its corporate profiteering mandated against the people under threat of prison.

Dennis is futher from the tea baggers than Obama.

[Atticus]

163. And you can't see that your attitude is EXACTLY why the teabaggers are generally

regarded as feeble-minded and intolerant assholes? "My way or the highway".

GAG!

[bertman]

5. My rec couldn't offset the UNrecs. I agree with you, Jake.

[Libertas1776]

7. I recced it back out of the red.

Keep on keeping on Dennis!

[Individualist]

10. I second that emotion!

:thumbsup:

[netania99]

13. Third.

n/t

[Ozymanithrax]

12. Kucinich, proud to vote so another 40,000 can die.

He is a blue dog by another name.

[Jennicut]

14. Yeah, my hero. Meanwhile, in the real world my preexisting condition is ongoing and

not waiting until perfection happens.
DK is fine to vote against the bill, he and the blue dogs who voted against it can do what they want. But some of us can't sit around and wait another 15 years while something as simple as preexisting conditions are addressed.

[Faygo Kid]

25. Thank you, and good luck. It's getting too easy and predictable for Dennis.

The real world - your world - is out there. Much as I admire him, Dennis is sometimes wrong.

Tonight, he was wrong. All the best to you, and best of luck.

[Jennicut]

32. Thanks. Another poster on DU:Presidential would actually be covered under this bill.

It is a start. DK is not someone I hate, or even dislike. I respect his principles but also think he is setting back what he wants to actually accomplish by siding with the blue dogs and Rethugs.

[AllentownJake]

37. Wow I feel the same way about the President when it comes to the war

[Jennicut]

45. I disagree with Obama on Afganistan.

I don't want any escalation and want us to actually get out of there. But I dislike and hate neither of them.

[AllentownJake]

49. I don't hate the President either

despite what some on here would think.

[Jennicut]

55. I know you don't. We have to get past that on this board, when we disagree with

a certain politician it is not always hatred driving us. Sometimes it may be but many times we simply have different views.

[AllentownJake]

56. Arguments have greater strength

when they are well reasoned and from the heart..not when they are from bile....

You are one of the good posters on here.

[Jennicut]

57. Thanks!

:) You too.

[peacetalksforall]

31. He is not a blue dog.

[Jennicut]

sorry, meant to type "he and the blue dogs"

DK is extremely progressive.

[theFrankFactor]

154. Of Course Not and Only and Blithering Moron Would Think So. Why? HR 676!

Dennis co-crafted HR676 - the expansion of Medicare. Only a fucktard would equate that with Blue Dogs or Tea Baggers or Republicans. It's so fucking stupid you'd have to suspect some intellectual compromise to assert it.

House Resolution (H.R.) 676
The United States National Health Insurance Act
(“Expanded & Improved Medicare for ALL”)

http://www.hr676.org/12.html

[grantcart]

15. Its good you appreciate it because DK has lost all influence in the caucus

A silly Pyhrrhic move that is of no strategic or tactical benefit.

[AllentownJake]

19. The caucus will be running for cover soon

Whoever the hell was the genius to include a prison sentence in this bill deserves their ire when the ads are run in 2010. Thank God, I won't be knocking on doors for an incumbent in 2010.

[ProSense]

33. "Whoever the hell was the genius to include a prison sentence" Are you serious?

Can't oppose the bill on actual facts, huh?


:rofl:

[grantcart]

43. Well you calculus is the same as the teabaggers

what you, and they, have not added are the 30 million who have not been able to visit a doctor because of a fear of or defined by a "preexisting condition" either real, imagined or possible.

In my case nobody in my family has been able to see a doctor in 10 years, and their are tens of millions of people who will wake up when this bill has passed and for the first time not be afraid to see a doctor.

Even though a bill without the Public Option would still have been a significant improvement for me I would have opposed it, even if it meant that somebody in my family suffered from a life endangering disease.

A Public Option means that we have our wedge and that it is now a matter of time before it is expanded, single payer becomes a state option and eventually state by state the country is transformed to single payer.

But Dennis Kucinich is much more interested in his own self promotion of purity on a bill that could never pass than getting something that brings immediate relief and opens the door for a real path to single payer.


Senator Kennedy was for this bill
Governor Dean is for this bill
Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders is for this bill

and so on . . .


But Dennis Kucinich finds himself much more sanctified than these three great men on the left.


Kucinich is the Prince of the Pyrrhic Victory.

[elocs]

34. But, it's what he does. You know, Joe Principle. Outrageous and righteous indignation.

I think the heart of your post defines him though.

[flvegan]

16. This will be unpopular with the delusional.

Those that think this "reform" will ever be revisited in the future.

Suckers.

[ProSense]

17. Yeah, the entire progressive caucus just dissed Kucinich and his grandstanding. n/t

[flvegan]

22. Really?

And? Doesn't change anything. Like I said...delusional. Thrilled to death to settle for crap that we shouldn't have to.

[ProSense]

26. Yes,

really.

[flvegan]

28. Still yelling at that kettle, huh?

:rofl:

[ProSense]

29. I can't wait for a Kucinich diary at Kos.

:rofl:

[peacetalksforall]

36. I call it principled. He didn't cause the vote to fail.

[JVS]

62. +1

[20score]

20. K&R! As usual, he did the right thing.

[FrenchieCat]

21. Now that we know for sure what DK wants......

Wonder how long before we get it?


Most likely, never.

[AllentownJake]

24. So are you going to get off your but in 2010

and knock on doors to defend the majority when the ads are run talking about the idiotic prison provision in this bill.

[FrenchieCat]

38. I don't sit on my ass as much as you would like to think........

and when I am, I'm usually writing to the media, to the WH, and to congress.

[AllentownJake]

40. writing to the media

is like pissing in the wind. Elections are won on the ground.

[FrenchieCat]

48. I canvass too..........as well as talk to a lot of folks......

Please, try not to be so righteous, while trying to put me down.

[AllentownJake]

52. All you ever do is try to put other posters down

or bully them because they disagree.

[FrenchieCat]

53. Really......and you?

[AllentownJake]

58. I try to be nice

sometimes I fail.

[FrenchieCat]

59. Yes you do.

Now that I have posted my thoughts on DK,
in a way that is allowed at this forum....
I thank you for allowing me to do so.
Thank you, sir.

[CakeGrrl]

27. Boehner and Cantor voted "Nay" as well. n/t

[AllentownJake]

30. Yes and Dick Cheney wants more troops in Afghanistan

the same as the President...are they the same?

Strawman bullshit.

[Libertas1776]

39. +100

[CakeGrrl]

50. No is No when it comes to getting this shit on the fucking MOVE

How long would be OK for Kucinich?

How much more progressive would this legislation be when we ALREADY have a (D) in the WH and Dem majorities in both houses, and it still barely passed the House?

Tell me you could lose one of those branches to the Repubs and we'd get a more progressive bill.

How many years can Kucinich afford to wait to get this off the ground until HE'S happy with the legislation versus someone uninsured? I guess he has all the time in the world because he's as well-covered as every other pol on the Hill.

[kid a]

35. you can't call it progress or progressive if your idol never actually moves forward and pisses

in the wind.

[MajorChode]

44. It's called obstructionism

At least sometimes you can deal with the GOPhers. Not so with Dennis.

[provis99]

47. you also can't call yourself progressive if you vote for a reactionary bill.

[Aramchek]

41. he joined forces with the Repukes tonight. nice job!

[AllentownJake]

42. The President does that regularly on the war

[flvegan]

46. SNAP!

[Aramchek]

66. so you agree that Dennis failed us tonight?

[AllentownJake]

67. Pointing out straw man bullshit

I don't like the President's stance on Afghanistan but to equate the President with the Republicans is just as silly as equating Dennis to them, because I'm assuming the President's reasoning for the troop increase is a lot different than John Boehner's reason for supporting it.

[scheming daemons]

74. A congressman is ONLY worth how he votes... not his reasons

If he votes with Republicans, he's an enemy of progress... no matter what his reasons are.

[AllentownJake]

79. I'd vote against this bill

I don't believe it is progress.

[ProSense]

81. God bless you. n/t

[scheming daemons]

84. Then, like it or not, you are in agreement with the Republican party

They, except for one brave soul, voted the way you wanted.


Send a check to Boehner... you and he have the same goals.

[AllentownJake]

85. You are with us or against us huh?

[Aramchek]

104. you are with the Repukes or against them. Dennis sided with them. How about you?

[AllentownJake]

109. I guess there really isn't that much difference

to some Democrats and George W. Bush in logic and reasoning.

When do we bomb France?

[Aramchek]

110. irrationality is a virus. quit trying to infect me.

[fascisthunter]

137. talk like that is like mental illness

[NorthCarolina]

150. I believe lifes choices are a bit more complex than the simple black-or-white yes/no scenario you to

Dennis voted correctly. As a true progressive, I too would have voted against this give away to the health insurance industry. Besides that, if you think we'll be seeing the Senate give even a passing glance to the house legislation passed last evening, then you really need to get some better glasses. A mandate to purchase a pile of crap isn't exactly going to endear the public to the Democratic Party. America got a POS bill because the conservatives still rule the roost, and progressives - you know, the ones that would really like to give Americans quality health care reform - are criticized by the media and conservative folks such as yourself. When America wakes up and starts to rid themselves of conservatives, and conservatives calling themselves "centrists", and replacing them with Liberals, that is when real change for the better will happen.

[HughMoran]

140. So you're indirectly slamming the one you worship as a God right there

Perfect - I couldn't have pointed out your utter hypocrisy any better. Thanks! :hi:

[Libertas1776]

51. It appears there is war of rec's

happening on this thread. I brought it out of the negative. It was up by at least 5. Now its back down to 0. I wish I could rec again.

[AllentownJake]

54. Meh

I could care less, when all these people are screaming about the commercials in 2010 over certain provisions in this bill, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut.

[Libertas1776]

60. Please, AllentownJake,

Don't ever keep your mouth shut, do not keep silent. Sure there may be people screaming in the background while you make your reasoned argument, and you may feel all alone while the multitudes clamor and shout and march in lock step. But always remember, out of those multitudes shouting you down and covering their ears, there will always be...guaranteed...at least one listening.

I'm all ears, AllentownJake. :hi:

[AllentownJake]

63. I shut-up during elections

There are times when a united front is required. I bite my toungue on national issues from August till November.

[Libertas1776]

65. I hear ya.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

64. A man of integrity voted against a bad bill. K&R

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

97. +1000

[ProleNoMore]

68. My Man Dennis!

eom

[slay]

69. So true

What we could have had.. compared to what we've sold out for.. please, give me a crumb please oh insurance masters! at least dennis tried to truly stand up for the rights of the people. :patriot:

[ProSense]

70. The effects of Kucinich's so-called votes on principle

here

[xchrom]

71. kick

[Raine]

72. TOTALLY agree

THANK YOU Dennis! :thumbsup: I have mixed feelings because I think the bill stinks but I'm glad it passed because it's a moral victory. Still I'm also very glad that Kucinich voted his principles.

[scheming daemons]

73. Why aren't you saying "God Bless You, Boehner".... he voted with Dennis!

They voted exactly the same way.


Since you love Dennis' vote, you must love Boehner and Cantor's too.

[dana_b]

75. and thank you ATJ

DK takes far too much shit here.

[Greyhound]

77. Yet another "Muni light & Power" moment.

He has proven before that he will stand firm no matter the consequences.

That used to be thought of as a good thing. We've become so craven and spineless it's sickening.
:kick: & R

[G_j]

83. Thank You Dennis!

:loveya:

[LostInAnomie]

88. Yeah, fuck all the people without health care. DK's "principles" are what's important.

Who cares if 40,000 die a year, and we wouldn't get another chance to pass anything for 20 years. DK's version of reform is all that matters.

[Kitty Herder]

90. Do you honestly believe this bill will save 40,000 people a year? nt

[LostInAnomie]

91. It will save a lot more than letting it go down in flames like DK wished.

How many people would DK's magical pixie dust bill have saved when no one would vote for it?

[lonestarnot]

92. I love Dennis, he did his part. Wrong, but he did his part. Isn't democracy grand.

[hippywife]

93. Dennis understands that this bill

is still a sell out to the private insurance industry, similar to the Medicare pharma bull (this was originally I type but it fits so I leave it) passed by the republicans. Is there a benefit in it? Some, but it's still the industry that will profit more.

If we had a whole congress of such men, all people would have healthcare, not be required to buy health insurance.

I salute him for standing on the truth and not selling out his principles. :patriot:

[CTLawGuy]

99. if it is a sellout to insurance companies

then why didn't their minions, ie the republicans and conservative dems, vote FOR it?

Or do they not want giveaways? or are they too stupid to know it is a giveaway?

[hippywife]

100. Everyone has to BUY health coverage.

That will exponentially increase their profits. It stops some of their heinous behaviours, those that are most obvious. They have others that are not so obvious. Like I said, there is some benefit, but not nearly what there should be for those who will still find themselves in need. How does someone without a job buy health insurance?

I have health insurance, and on my lowly pay for a not-for-profit, we are over the barrel. No one else but who we have will insure us because we have a smaller group of employees, with some people who actually need to use their coverage. Out of two weeks pay, I take home only one. The other week's pay goes for health insurance for just my husband and myself.

Shit, even AARP was duped into supporting that damn pharma bill.

Dennis realizes the truth - that everyone has a right to be cared for when they need it, not just those who can afford to line the pockets of the insurance industry. It is a human right and everyone deserves the chance to be treated. It's still putting a cost on a human life.

[CTLawGuy]

101. you didn't answer my question

why didn't the insurance co minions vote for the bill if it is a giveaway to them?

[Waiting For Everyman]

111. They didn't need to - the Dems did it FOR them.

The "stupid" Repubs played us bigtime, and won double from both sides of it. You can bet they're high-fiving at their country clubs today.

(edited a spelling error)

[CTLawGuy]

112. bs

this "giveaway" could very well have failed. Why didn't the Rs vote to help their insurance co. masters?

and why are the ins cos spending millions on ads attacking something that is a giveaway to them?

[Waiting For Everyman]

116. bs yourself

I already answered you - the Rs votes weren't needed. That was easy to foresee b/c the Dems were determined to pass something; and if it was falling short, a few "moderate" Rs could've "changed their minds" to put it over.

And point two, the ads were a) probably already paid for before the Dem sellout; and b) the ads still provide useful cover in eliciting exactly the argument you're making = "oh, PLEASE don't fling me in the briar patch" (wink, wink)

[CTLawGuy]

120. ...

We knew about this bill for at least a week. The companies could have pulled their ads, but I saw the stupid C of C ad at least twice today and multiple times over the past week. Makes sense, because the bill ends rescission, it ends discrimination based on preexisting conditions, among other things. Doesn't sound like a giveaway to me.

The idea that mandates are a giveway presupposes that most of the uninsured are healthy young people (i.e. profitable) who simply choose not to buy health insurance. Most of the uninsured are people who can't afford insurance or who are uninsurable, the very people the insurance companies don't want to deal with. I oppose mandates because I think they are unnecessary--people want insurance, they just can't afford it; if they could afford it, they would get it. As long as there is a public option and subsidies to help people, I can tolerate mandates in HCR though.

In reality, the mandates and other provisions force insurance companies to cover people they don't want to cover, and that's why they oppose this bill.

I'm sorry, the idea that the Rs are opposing a corporate giveaway, that they really support, for show is just ridiculous. And I don't think the insurance companies would spends tons of cash on ads opposing something they secretly support.

[Luminous Animal]

132. AHIP explicitly supports mandates.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/ahip-to-dems-mandates-are-an-idea-insurance-cos-can-get-behind.php

The Republicans voted no for political reasons. It gives the illusion that they are the opposition party and thus principled and strong.

[CTLawGuy]

157. it supports mandates

in a vacuum, most likely, because it reduces the bargaining power of insurance purchasers, while allowing them to reject anyone they don't want. However, with the new restictions and the public option, its not such a sweet deal.

and I think the Rs voted against it because they are against it.

[Luminous Animal]

158. This was reported in October 2009.

Which, at that time, new restrictions and the public option were already incorporated in the bill.

[CTLawGuy]

160. so are you saying AHIP supports this bill?

NT

[Lydia Leftcoast]

152. You know what it does instead of allowing all those denials?

It still allows insurance companies to discriminate on the basis of AGE.

You can be sure that the premiums of every person over 50 are going to have more than their usual 10% annual increase once this bill goes into effect.

You know what decent, humane, sensible countries where the people haven't learned to expect crumbs from their government do?

They vary premiums based solely on INCOME. Or they don't vary them at all.

[Starry Messenger]

98. Thank you Dennis.

I love it when all that "Big Tent" bs goes right out the window the minute someone stands up for their principles. :sarcasm:

[sellitman]

102. Bravo!

Dennis is one of the few principled good guys.

Thank you Sir!

[SammyWinstonJack]

105. K&R!

[roody]

106. A real Democrat.

[Waiting For Everyman]

108. K&R

Dennis isn't the problem - the rest of those bozos are. This bill isn't even good enough to be called a compromise, it's a giveaway, a sellout.

And whatever good is there, will be either removed before it's enacted or loopholed-around soon enough afterwards. That is what we know from past experience, which doesn't lie. It's another big step forward for the corporatists. No good will come of that.

[Bluenorthwest]

117. Dennis was my choice for President. I'm not a 'with the crowd'

voter. Dennis was the only candidate to support equal rights for all Americans and as an American without equal rights, he had my support, starting right here on my block, before most people even knew there was a campaign going on. I knew I'd probably not get to vote for him even in my Primary, because by then the DNC machine would have made the choices slim, as always. Which is what happened. But every shred of work I did after that, for Democrats, including Obama, I did because of Dennis. Because he got the ball rolling very early. Because for a moment, at least, I could have a candidate that spoke of me as an equal, and to me as a Democrat.

[Desertrose]

119. Thank you, Dennis. It takes courage to stand up to the crowd.

Especially when its not always politically expedient. Always liked that about this man!!

[NoPasaran]

122. The Bluest Dog of them all!

[earth mom]

123. I'm reccing this thread even though I'm agnostic.

Dennis ROCKS!!! :yourock:

[quakerboy]

124. I find myself wondering how he would have voted

if he knew it was going to come down to 217 and him.

I agree with his vote, I think. I wish we knew more about what will come out of this. The cynic in me expects that it is more attempts to screw the people. I would like to think that Wiener and Grayson and others are better than that. But in a political town, it seems that politics wins.

[tabasco]

129. Kucinich betrayed us.

Your idiotic spin nothwithstanding.

[sabrina 1]

133. How did he 'betray us'? It's easy to throw mud

but I have seen none of those attacking those who voted against Corporate America, explain how that vote was wrong. What, since he explained his vote, do you disagree with him on?

Eg, do you disagree with him on a strong public option?

Or do you disagree with him that giving huge handouts to the failing Insurance Industry is wrong?

Do you disagree that Americans have a right to health care? Are you with the Republicans that health care is a commodity, not a right?

I'd love to hear the reasons people have for their vitriol towards Kucinich.

You can read his reasons on the Rec list in case you haven't read them yet. I have and agree with every word he spoke, and because of that, could never have voted for anything that violated those principles.

[theFrankFactor]

155. HR 676! That's a Betrayl? Honestly, We're Elbow to Elbow WIth Morons - No Wonder Dems Get Shit On

[Nikki Stone1]

136. I wish there were hundreds of him

Or at least enough to prevent this travesty of "health care reform" from passing.

[fascisthunter]

138. A Real Democrat

not the corporate suck ups who serve the corporations first, and citizens last, due to pure greed and self-centeredness.

[winyanstaz]

139. Thank you Dennis Kucinich for standing against the corporations once again...

and for caring about the people.
Thank you for always keeping your word and having prinicples.

[Politicub]

143. It's moranic to think that Kucinich is some kind of paragon of virtue among dunces

IMHO he just likes being contrary for whatever reason. Perhaps he craves the attention.

But if you support his eternal being against most everything, then by all means post big pics of him all over your house.

Some progressive dems -- many more progressive than Kucinich -- voted for this bill. But I assume to all of the Dennis Fanboys and Girls that they're sellouts, too. Right?

[RBInMaine]

147. Yes, "thanks" for helping the TeaBaggers. And, kindly come down off the moon and find reality.

[ooglymoogly]

148. I love Dennis Kucinich....there I said it. kr nt

[mod mom]

151. He's definitely on the side a the average American. I'm glad to say I contribute to his re-election

[adamuu]

156. yuck!

[theFrankFactor]

159. Hey Dennis Haters: What's HR 676 and What "Tea Bagger/Blue Dog" Co-sponsored it?

[Mimosa]

164. He always tell the truth.

What's wrong with the rest of Congress?