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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:46 PM
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List of Democrats voting against the Health Care Bill
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 11:53 PM by brooklynite
from http://clerk.house.gov/legislative/legvotes.html

Adler (NJ)
Altmire
Baird
Barrow
Boccieri
Boren
Boucher
Boyd
Bright
Chandler
Childers
Davis (AL)
Davis (TN)
Edwards (TX)
Gordon (TN)
Griffith
Herseth Sandlin
Holden
Kissell
Kosmas
Kratovil
Kucinich
Markey (CO)
Marshall
Massa
Matheson
McMahon
Melancon
Minnick
Murphy (NY)
Nye
Peterson
Ross
Shuler
Skelton
Tanner
Taylor
Teague
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:49 PM
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1. Don't think I've heard of any of them -- except Dennis. But they'll hear from
me!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:49 PM
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2. Primary all of them
Every last one, Kucinich at the front of the list.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:54 PM
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6. In fairness, not all of these were from "Blue Dogs"...
some, like Kucinich and Massa voted against because they thought it didn't go far enough
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:18 AM
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11. And they're bigger and easier targets than the Blue Dogs
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 12:18 AM by WeDidIt
Get their dumbasses out of Congress. They don't deserve their seats.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:50 PM
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3. Missing Skelton
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:53 PM
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5. fixed
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:52 PM
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4. Kissell and Shuler are unseat targets for my state (shame on them)...
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:55 PM
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7. Here's Baird's statement
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 11:55 PM by lumberjack_jeff
Washington, D.C.- I strongly believe there is a need for health care reform and I have offered my own proposal for how this should be accomplished. The bill before the House is a result of thousands of hours of effort put in by members of Congress and their staff, plus the unprecedented input from the public on all sides of this issue. Clearly, people care about how we deliver and pay for health care in this country and there is a need and opportunity for change.

In comparison to the initial draft of H.R. 3200, a number of improvements have been made. To name just a few, the current bill would allow negotiations for prescription drugs under Medicare D, promote alternatives to malpractice litigation, and allow for cross state agreements to purchase cross state insurance (something especially relevant to border districts such as my own). There are also elements that could at long last correct the Medicare payment disparities that disadvantage our state, and the bill would end the anti-trust exemption long enjoyed by insurance companies.

All of those changes are commendable, but there are still reasons for concern. The most important of these is the simple fact that we do not yet have reliable estimates of how this legislation will impact the premiums paid by people who already have insurance.

This week I spoke with Nancy-Ann DeParle, the President's chief health advisor and Doug Elmendorf, the director of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). Although some prominent economists have asserted that premiums on average may go down relative to what they would be without this bill, the CBO has yet to complete its analysis of the issue. Furthermore, just yesterday, the chief actuary for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) said he did not think a cost estimate of the House bill would be available before the scheduled vote.

This is no small matter. To insist that members vote on this legislation without having cost estimates of Medicare and Medicaid impacts by CMS or an estimate of premium impacts from the CBO seems premature and unwise.

Precisely because this matter is so important, it is critical that we do things right, and know what we are doing. At present, unfortunately, I do not believe we have answers to fundamental questions.

Another troubling matter is how the legislation will be brought to a vote. As of this writing, only one amendment will be allowed from the Republican side. No other amendments, by either the majority or minority members, will be allowed. I believe that is a mistake. For a matter of this importance, and on which reasonable people can and do disagree, there ought to be more opportunity granted for amendments on both sides.

For these reasons, until more information is available on premium estimates and Medicare impacts, I will vote against the legislation in its current form. I will wait to make a decision on final legislation until this critical information becomes available and when the House and Senate together produce one bill.


http://www.baird.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1041&Itemid=99
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:55 PM
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8. All except Kucinich, who would have voted if we needed it
can go
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:57 PM
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9. Melancon is running against Vitter next year.
I'm not voting for either one of them. Hopefully Melancon will be primaried.
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sadbear Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:17 AM
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10. I live in Edwards' district
Very republican. Lots of teabaggers. I'm torn. I wish he would have voted yes, but know that if he had, he would likely get beat in '10. Perhaps now he'll have a chance of reelection. A primary will do no good for Democrats in this district.
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