Gee, funny that republican men are so passionate against abortion, and also against welfare /nt

[still_one]

[47of74]

1. The RTL crowd believes in the sancity of human life from the moment of conception...

...to birth. Afterward said human life can go and F you know what itself.

[Arugula Latte]

11. And, let's face it, "sanctity of life" has jack shit to do with these men's beliefs.

It's all about controlling the wimmenfolks.

[MadMaddie]

15. I had this argument the other day with RW coworkers

They said the Dems only support killing babies....and I replied, "And the Repugs don't give a shit about the babies, once they are born. Repugs believe the babies need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and not expect handouts"! They shut the fuck up after that.....

[Avalux]

2. I wanted to punch Smith in the face.

How dare he presume to know anything about what it's like to have an abortion. That old fat fuck has no right to dictate a woman's right to choose. :grr:

[still_one]

4. I am a guy, and I don't think any man in Congress has the right to tell a women what she should

do with her body

[Lagomorph]

20. But then, we've all made suggestions....

:silly:

[get the red out]

3. Maybe their God requires the suffering

I think their idea of God requires suffering so Republicans can go to heaven. Abortion can be used to relieve or prevent suffering, so it is no good. A single mother with children who go hungry and unclothed on the street provides wonderful suffering, the kind that can put a Republican male into instant heaven.

[patrice]

8. I think you're on to something there.

How can you tell who "God" loves if there aren't differences between people, so if we actually let women free themselves and, thus, put an end to at least some institutionalized suffering, how am I going to know that I am a good little "Christian" if there are fewer people for me to look down on and pity?

hmmmmm . . . .

I was also reading on this board somewhere recently about some Catholic philosophy that values suffering.

[NMMNG]

5. Life is sacred--until it exits the womb

Then it's just a useless burden on society and goddamn if any tax dollars should be wasted on it. Let that infant go out and get a fucking job. I hear tell McDonalds gives you a meal during your shift. :sarcasm:

[havocmom]

6. Just looking to their own interests: more desperate women = cheaper hookers

The GOP is ALWAYS the Cheap Labor Party, and hookers are important to their lifestyle, it would seem.

[The Magistrate]

7. An excellent point, Ma'am

[Kansas Wyatt]

9. Did I hear one of them say in one of their admendments...

If a woman ever got an abortion with her own money, then she shall be banned from coverage.

I thought I heard that on, one of the CNN clips. Are they really trying to get that?

[earthboundmisfit]

10. I call it the "Make the Slut Pay" mentality

Or, as another DUer pegged the new Oklahoma law publishing information of women who got abortions, the "Scarlet Letter" mentality.

[ovidsen]

12. They're not "pro-life". They're "pro-birth". (not a compliment)

They will go to extreme, and sometimes extremely illegal measures to keep women from ending a pregnancy. They'll harass family planning clinic workers, verbally harangue and sometimes threaten women (and their partners and friends) who enter clinics, and (to me, something that makes a laughingstock of the euphemism "pro-life") occasionally assassinate doctors who perform abortions.

Their obsession with the preservation of an embryo borders on psychotic.

But after a baby whose "life they have saved" is born, they couldn't give a rat's ass about such incidental things as child nutrition, the mother's nutrition, the housing standards and living conditions of mother and child, a child's opportunity to get good daycare, giving the mother the opportunity to work for herself and her child, and other such irrelevant trivialities.

No, they are definitely not "pro-life". In fact, even the term "pro-birth" suggests that they may have something resembling a conscience. Something that says "this is not about me, this is about the human race". Applying terms like "pro-life" and "pro-birth" to them is patently misleading, since for most of them, this is simply about power. Their eagerness to force other people to conform to what they see as "proper moral behavior". Not to minimize the seriousness of rape, which is clearly a crime of power and domination, and not sex, and is far more serious than MOST crimes committed by "pro-lifers", I think many of these so called "pro-lifers" are in the same general ballpark as your cookie-cutter rapist. They revel in their power to force others into submission.

No, "pro-birth" isn't exactly a good replacement for "pro-life". Can anyone here come up with a better one? Something with a more neutral (ergo, more acceptable to the general public) than "family haters", or "doctor killers"?

[Kievan Rus]

13. And pro-birther too

The other context of the word "birth" with these people are the thinly-veiled racist birther crap.

My goodness, I despise social conservatives. I can tolerate economic cons and national-defense cons, but I just can't stand the racist, misogynist, homophobic, xenophobic, anti-Catholic, anti-Semitic, anti-Muslim crap those morans spout.

[ovidsen]

17. You and me both

There is usually a smidgen of a logical argument that can be found in the rantings of your "economic-cons" and "national defense" cons".

But the ones who base the foundation of their so called neo-con leanings on their belief that "those others" (blacks, Asians, women, gays, Muslims or people of other faiths who don't embrace "their" version" of Christianity) need to either convert to the "cause" or be put in their "place" just make me sick.

They have no legal, moral or ethical leg to stand on. But you can't tell them that, because in their eyes, their "perfect".

[havocmom]

21. Replacement for 'pro-life' and 'pro-birth': FORCED BIRTHERS

They want to force births, but care not for life.

[rucky]

14. It's not hypocrisy. It's not coincidental, either.

They love giving the double-bind to people. They do it on purpose - and any chance they get.

[Joanne98]

16. They have their reasons. High birth rates especially among the poor=cheap labor!

For the corporate masters. Which dovetails into their anti-immigration stance. They believe that if they can just force enough women to bear children for the slave factory they can halt immigration. They aren't moral enough to just oppose corporate slavery and exploitation. They LOVE the corporate state more than they love their "way of life".

Globalization and so called "free trade agreements" have caused everything they hate but they still support it because they're married to "free market capitalism".

High birth rates also feed the cannon fodder factory. They need to be at war constantly and that requires a lot of children to "sacrifice" to the war machine.

It really has NOTHING to do with life at all!

They're totally full of shit!

[treestar]

18. They would also be against health care for all the children born

What they really want is a lot of poor people who will sign up for the military having nothing else to do so they can continue with their unnecessary wars.

[mstinamotorcity]

19. Any man who

designates himself as the womb police can get back with me in a month with thirty eight days.I took my daughter to a clinic that performed abortions,they also did teen counseling on family planning,birth control, and wide range of female and male issues. As we approached the parking lot i saw the old people with the pictures of the fetus and the baby stroller walking back and forth. Soon as we got out of the car they put some super unleaded in their walk and came up to us screaming don't kill your baby, don't kill your baby. That shit made me so mad because they just assumed that one of us was having an abortion. I told that b---h, Look i already have twelve kids and this is number thirteen. Thirteen is an unlucky number this little m-----f----r got to go. And as i was going inside the lady was saying i was crazy. But that old bitch who looked like she hadn't had a fertile egg in fifty years, is the crazy person if she thinks my ass got thirteen kids. Smile

[theHandpuppet]

22. Not really

If you keep women poor and pregnant, you can control them. They are terrified of women.

[Codeine]

23. To be fair, so are Republican women. nt