Honestly, if voting for President Obama is not the change you voted for,

[akbacchus_BC]

why are you complaining? Should n't you have voted to elect Senator Hilary Clinton or better yet, MCCain/Palin? Even Senator Clinton would have been a better President than McCain/Palin, one would have to be dumb to vote for those two!

From my bird eyes view, Senator clinton as President won't be doing as much as President Obama, she is a DLCer? Come on everyone, get a grip, support your President and help him. We out of the US are behind him and do I love him and the first family, hell yes! At best, those two invasions need to be ended and perhaps the US should reconsider stop keeping military bases worldwide. When did the world voted for the US to police us?

[Oregone]

1. At the end of the day, you only have two horses to choose from

And one isn't even a viable option for a human with a brain. That doesn't mean you instantly love and rally behind the only thing left over, despite their policies.

The false choice could of been worse. Obama is great in terms of international relations, as I thought he would be. Beyond that, there is plenty of room for healthy debate.

[gleaner]

2. I voted for Obama ...

because of what he said he wanted to do when he was campaigning. He is not doing it, or even attempting to do it as far as I can tell. So I am now complaining, as is my right and inclination.

If I hired a contractor to fix my house and he messed up and did not work according to his estimate, I would take him to court. Same sentiment here. People are not transparent. You don't always know what you will get when you vote for some one, but nothing says you have to like it.

You are entitled to see what you want to see, feel what you want to feel and think what you want to think. So are the rest of us. I don't see any problem with that at all. I do see a problem with denigrating someone because they do not share your opinion and say so. We may be bound by common ideas, but we do not share a brain because of it. My brain gets tired of being told what to think by anyone. I get tired of being told what I can and cannot say by anyone. Within the rules and parameters here, I will say what I want. People who don't like it, don't have to read it. Or they can block me.

For your information, I did not vote for Hillary Clinton because I thought she was too conservative, and I know what conservatism does. Whether it is Blue Dog conservatism "lite" or Republican conservatism which advocates letting people crawl off and die before you allow the government to do anything to help them. Whether it is a small sore or a large sore, it still causes a degree of pain which people get tired of feeling.

[akbacchus_BC]

3. Just wait and see, after 8 years of shit do you really think that 10 months

will see you having changes. Give the darn guy a chance to right all the wrongs. It is only ten fucking months!

[gleaner]

4. I don't expect ...

a magical transformation, but I do expect some type of movement in the direction that Obama said he was going to take. Have you ever tried to negotiate with Republicans to get anything done? Especially the ones Obama has chosen to negotiate with? Nothing moves them. They are aggressive and threatening of him and his person even though threats against the president are against the law, and he lets it go. After all of the nuts who have taken potshots at our various presidents, how can he know who is serious and who is not? He does not stand up to them. Like most two year olds they only push him harder as a result. They perceive him as caving and nothing gets done.

You're right it is ten months. Why should a discussion on health care have gone on for ten months? Why doesn't he discuss it with the Democratic majority and take a strong public stand for what he says he believes in. He has the numbers, he has the mandate. With public sentiment as strong as it it, he has the strength to push through a helpful and viable bill instead of letting us sink further and further into this morass which the Republicans seem to be in charge of.

I'm not trying to make an issue out of personalities here, either yours or mine. Say what you want, it doesn't change what I see. A man wasting his ability and intelligence by appearing to do nothing at all. Also, I have seen a lot of presidents and most of them accomplish much more in ten months than this administration. He may be getting bad advice. If he is, he needs to find new advisors and listen to his own voice. That was the voice which got him elected and it is the voice which would accomplish a lot if he only decided to use it.

It isn't important in the scheme of things whether I personally support him or not, so I wonder why so many posters keep trying to tell me to do so when it is obvious that I know my mind and form my own opinions and intend to keep doing so no matter what they say. I may be right or I may be wrong. Time will tell, but the same is true of those who keep telling me what to think. I prefer to trust myself and I will view this situation the way I view all situations; as an individual who has seen enough to form my own convictions and who intends to follow them. You are free to do the same and I would not dream of telling you to do otherwise. But if you express an opinion I disagree with, I will politely disagree with it and try to treat it with the respect you deserve as a thinking, reasoning person. We do not have to agree.

I have blisters on my fingers because I have typed this so often. I am thinking of taking a copy of what I write about this subject and keeping it in my journal and simply pasting it in as an answer every time the subject comes up. Kind of a Robo Post. I wonder if that might not be easier than thinking of a thousand different ways to keep saying the same thing.

[Stinky The Clown]

5. Up yer strawman

Go play with oyurself

[Lindsey]

6. Gleaner, I sincerely don't want to get into it with you at all about

President Obama and I'm not a "flame war" person so that's not what I'm trying to do here. But, I really can't understand your perspective that he hasn't done anything. We all know that Health Care was one of the top issues. He has put his heart and soul into this effort. He signed the bill to include gays in the hate crime arena. He's addressing the issue of our failing public education system and is very vocal regarding the fact that parents must get involved (the speech he gave just this last week about how he handled Malia's issue regarding grades and telling her she needs to aim for A's), he supported extending unemployment benefits during this financially dark time in our country. What I'm mentioning are just off of the top of of my head. And, as others have acknowledged, he's only been in office 10 months. I know he still needs to tackle the wars but just think about what an unbelievable disaster the country was in due to the Bush Administration when President Obama came on board. In my opinion, he's actually done MORE than any president in a 10 month period, at least in my lifetime.