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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:22 PM
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So ..... let's get a sense of what everyone feels tonight as they move toward a vote ...
How ya feelin'?

Hopeful?

Disappointed?

Charged up and rarin' to go?

Pissed off?

Sanguine?

What are you feeling this evening?
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:23 PM
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1. Hopeful. Fingers crossed.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:24 PM
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2. Pretty good, but republicans are such a downer.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:25 PM
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5. Anxious
Agree that REpubs are real downers. I can't believe how they refused to let the Dem women be heard!
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 10:13 PM
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51. Hoping the "Be Careful What You Wish For" axiom is not in play tonight.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:25 PM
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3. If it makes Republicans freak out, I'm happy.
I'm just shallow that way.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:47 PM
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38. Me, too. I want them as miserable as they can be.
They cause this mess and now we have to clean up after it. I'm pissed...
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:25 PM
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4. I'm hopeful too. This is a step in the right direction.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:25 PM
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6. Sanguine, Sir
The thing needs to pass, and looks like doing so. It is far from perfect, and its passage is hardly the end of the fight. But it is essential as a first step.

"It is not the end, not even the beginning of the end, but perhaps the end of the beginning."
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:38 PM
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26. Hear, hear!
JK Galbraith could turn a phrase nearly as well as WSC: "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable."
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:46 PM
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29. What an apropos quote
I was wondering exactly how I'm feeling going into this vote, and you brought to mind how Anne Frank must have felt when she listened to Churchill's speech.

It's really a wonder that I haven't dropped all my ideals, because they seem so absurd and impossible to carry out. Yet I keep them, because in spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart."
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:26 PM
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7. I'm feeling like I need a shovel
to clean up all the bull shit I'm hearing from the floor this afternoon.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:26 PM
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8. Surprisingly "Meh".
I mean, the real fight is in the Senate, after all.

And as amusing as the Kabuki theatre in the House is, it's pretty damned embarrassing too.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:26 PM
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9. Hopeful, 99.9% sure it will pass.
Glad the repukes are going to make it a 100% Democratic bill.
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Actionman Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:27 PM
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10. Pretty good but...
Pissed that it takes so long to get good accomplished and bad, patriot act, done over night. Dem need to step it up, expose those in the party that think, vote and speak as a repub.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:27 PM
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11. Hope springs eternally
:fistbump:







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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:28 PM
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12. Depressed, pissed off
at being sold down the river again so that insurance companies get their free bailout.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:30 PM
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14. May I join you?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:34 PM
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21. sure...if you're feelin' blue
we can commiserate and wonder if there will ever be any real 'change'. Not sure if that will make us feel better, though. :)
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:15 PM
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49. Agree
we lose no matter what. :-(
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:14 PM
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53. Me too. I feel silly for hoping we'd get health care reform
instead of insurance industry profit protection.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:29 PM
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13. Hopeful and excited. The bill is a good start and it's long overdue. n/t
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:31 PM
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15. I feel all tingly inside... like a tomato!
that's a Zippy The Pinhead quote that I feel is apropos.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:31 PM
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16. Tired of yo-yo emotions about this. We are watching Lawrence Welk on PBS!
something entirely silly (we have a good laugh at how dated/corny it is, but I have great memories of my grandmother babysitting me and watching the show!)
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:32 PM
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17. fatalistic
All the last minute arguing or cheerleading is all for naught. They knew this was the reform for months out, before the smoke and mirrors tried to sell it to you
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:32 PM
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18. I need to move to Cuba so I can get health care.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:33 PM
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19. i'm fairly stressed
because i've been streaming cspan all day. i'm ready for it to pass. i think it's a start. do i know it will pass? no. i feel confident saying that no repukes will vote for it.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:34 PM
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22. You're certainly right about that
They wouldn't even vote to let debate take place.

I'm kind of glad I was gone until 5:00 at a football game, although I would have loved to have seen the whole debate. I'm glued to the teevee machine for the duration now.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:33 PM
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20. Hopeful and pissed off at the Repukes
I'm so sick of their lies and misrepresentations. I love how they always talk about how bad Cash for Clunkers was when it's one of the most successful government programs ever. They probably would say the sky is green and the grass is blue just to not agree with our side of the aisle.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:36 PM
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23. Pissed off.
And only mostly at Republicans.

I'm also pissed off at some Democrats -- and not just the Blue Dogs.

I'm not entirely enthralled with the prevailing belief in some circles that we should just vote this bill down, and move on to the single-payer plan put forward by President Kucinich, you know, the one funded by the new top income tax bracket of 55%, that just sailed through committee in the House and Senate, and sits next on the House agenda?

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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:37 PM
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24. Disappointed...
...I think we could have done, and deserve, much better.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:38 PM
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25. Just got home ~ what happened?
Did they vote?
Can't find a thread.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:40 PM
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27. It's The Subsidies - Stupid. subsidies, subsidies, subsidies
We've got to keep the House subsidies or this plan is not going to work.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:46 PM
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28. It sucks - they appease the republicans and the repub lite (dems) and they still voted no
it just sickens me that a group that is over paid and has government funded (taxpayer) health can vote that we can't have it tooooooooo

I have heard too many sick arguments
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:09 PM
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30. Disappointed
there are some good things that the bill addresses but we could have done much better. There wasn't much of a fight for what needed to be done: a real public option. You know one that is actually an option. Way too much in subsidies that go to the corporations instead of letting the people chose.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:12 PM
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31. Complete disgust with all things republi-CON.
And a fair amount of disgust toward the Dems - NONE of whom have EVER made an issue of these assholes getting our party's name wrong. SHEESH!!!! They can't even to stand up to the bad guys on THIS? How on earth can the Dems stand up to the schmucks on really critical issues on which we all need their representation and their vigilance, when they won't even deal with THIS?

Shit. Just disgusted.

And of course now they're debating the Stupid Amendment - which shouldn't even be an issue for heaven's sake!!!!
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:45 AM
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54. that's when i turned it off
i felt pretty strongly that they were going to suck up to the fundies one more time and just couldn't bear to watch it.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:00 PM
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56. What don't they understand about - "the Dems WON last November"?
What is it about that undisputable fact that they still don't get?

Is it just battered wife syndrome or something?

Just ONCE I'd like to see somebody put a figurative track shoe or a spike heel through the throats of those bastards on one of these things. Even once!!! Just ONCE I'd like to see them treated like the spoiled-brat, tantrum-throwing three-year-olds they are (by a vigilant parent, that is). Oh, excuse me, they ARE being treated like the spoiled-brat, tantrum-throwing three-year-olds they are (by negligent, lazy parents who believe that ANY discipline as a consequence for bad behavior will some how cramp their style or damage their self-esteem). I remember just a couple of years ago when they even stood up and stomped out of the House in a hissy-fit because they weren't getting their way. If I'd been Nancy Pelosi, I would have waited until they had all left to go do their little stunt outside where they'd tipped off the cameras they were going to gather, and once they'd all cleared out, I'd have ordered the Sergeant-at-Arms to lock the doors and gaveled the proceedings inside back to order. THEN we would have gotten a few things accomplished WITHOUT those selfish, misbehaving bastards trying to block some critical business that needed to be taken care of. That might help teach them that - hey, don't pull that shit again! If you don't want to be locked out, then stay inside and figure out how to work properly with THE MAJORITY, SORE LOSERMAN ASSHOLES.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:26 PM
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58. good rant
i feel the same way. i don't get why the dems kiss ass to them as they do. the only thing i can come up with is they are beholden to the same corporate interests. what i would like to see is more lawmakers beholden to their constituents. like the one repuke who voted yes yesterday. sigh.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:25 PM
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32. Stink.. you know how it goes in Washington....
BOHICA (Bend Over.. Here it Comes Again)

Do you know of any good bargains on KY Jelly? Perhaps by the truckload...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:40 PM
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33. "i just do`t care anymore.."
it`s like dating someone that ya think might be the one and ya realize they already have their eyes set on someone else.



http://zenarcherrecords.com/dontcareanymorelyrics.html
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:40 PM
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34. Hopeful - The Journey Always Begins With the First Step
Both the Social Security and Medicare programs took time to get to where they stand right now and we have to keep working.

As for not passing anything, burning the village in order to save it has never worked...
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:42 PM
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35. Can't believe I had to rec this back to "0"
What the fuck is wrong with people here? You're not my favorite poster, but I would never unrec a "how ya feelin'" thread - that's infantile.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:56 PM
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39. Infantile ......
.... good word.
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:57 PM
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40. I don't see a reason to unrec OR rec it...oh well. n/t
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:09 PM
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45. That would have been the case before .....
.... but now, it seems everyone feels they have to vote on every thread.

Resulting in lots **more** shit getting to the Greatest Page. Which is the opposite of the intended (hope for) result.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:44 PM
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36. Cynical
you asked.

:hi:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:45 PM
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37. I'm surprised that John Boehner is even worse than I expected him to be,
and I expected him to be lousy.

The man is an insect. He's a toxic-orange booze-infused cockroach slithering behind the garbage cans in a very dark alley.

Not to put too fine a point on it.

The Republicans generally are idiotic and desperate across the board, but Boehner seems to stand out. One of the most disgusting performances by a Republican leader ever, and that's saying something.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:57 PM
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41. Just pass the fucker already!
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:02 PM
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42. Indifferent. Politics as usual. A bill bought and paid for by the lobbyists.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:14 PM
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48. +1000000000000000
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:04 PM
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43. I think we'll get it. I sure hope so.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:09 PM
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44. This bill is a piece of shit that will spike any hope of real reform for generations to come.
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TicketyBoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:11 PM
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46. A little hopeful.
It sounds like it will be better than nothing.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:12 PM
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47. Furious over Stupak's BS!
:grr:
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Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 10:00 PM
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50. Cynical
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 10:26 PM
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52. I'm wondering if it means a thing...
I don't think that a public option can coexist with private insurance companies. Both cannot be. We will either have a false public option or private insurance will go pretty much the way of the Dodo.
But both cannot be.

The Dems made a mistake repeatedly saying that it will "bring competition" to the insurance companies. No! Two different things! That is staying in the paradigm of "free market profit bullshit". We should not have allowed ourself to fall into that. It made the "PO" look like another insurance company instead of what it is. Taking profit out of health care and setting a new paradigm.

So, no, I am not optimistic. Not at all.

Either private insurance companies will (rightly) claim that a public govt. plan is not "fair competition" and a shitty PO will be all there is OR private companies will not be able to compete and will die out. That would be great, but I do not see it happening.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:48 AM
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55. REALLY pissed off
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:10 PM
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57. It Looks As Though Women Pay Again
It seems it's perfectly fine with everyone if women are discriminated against in the health care bill.
There will be no abortions, even if the woman with five kids will die if she goes on with this next pregnancy. Even if the embryo is damaged beyond repair.
Once again our representatives and senators get between a woman and her doctor with no qualms at all
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