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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:11 AM
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Pelosi Yields to Anti-Choice Dems & will Allow Anti-Abortion Amendment

Where's the Kucinich amendment?

Fuck Pelosi. And, FUCK the dems for this wetdream corporate health care bill. No public option (and don't anyone dare try to tell me that their pathetic 2% 'p.o.' that will likely be administred by private insurance companies & cost more then regular private insurance is a po). Subsidies for the private insurance companies that wrecked the system to continue and expand their power, big pharm allowed to treat the prescription drug market as a mafia scam and now this....I am outraged. FURIOUS.

http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-na-health-house7-2009nov07,0,5267162.story

Reporting from Washington - With a historic floor vote looming on their healthcare bill, House Democratic leaders secured an 11th-hour compromise late Friday night to settle a long-simmering debate over how to restrict federal funding for abortion.

The deal appeared to clear the way for a vote on the sweeping healthcare legislation this evening.

And senior Democrats maintained that they would have the 218 votes needed for passage when the House votes.

"You don't go to the floor unless you're there -- and we're there," said Rep. John B. Larson of Connecticut, the No. 4 Democrat in the House.

President Obama, who has made healthcare legislation the centerpiece of his domestic agenda, planned to go to the Capitol this morning to rally House Democrats.

The abortion compromise will allow socially conservative Democrats to offer a strong antiabortion amendment today when the bill comes to the floor. The amendment, which is expected to pass with the support of Republicans, would prohibit the new government insurance plan -- or so-called "public option" -- from covering elective abortions.

The amendment would extend a similar prohibition on private insurers that offer plans in new government-regulated insurance exchanges that are the foundation of the Democratic plan to expand coverage.

The Democratic healthcare bill envisions that millions of people who do not get coverage through work would shop for insurance in these new exchanges.

Under the compromise, federal funds would still be allowed to cover abortions in cases of rape or incest and in cases in which a woman's life is in danger.

Lawmakers who support abortion rights have bitterly opposed this proposal, and emerged visibly disappointed Friday night from a marathon meeting in the office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco).

They have been pushing an alternative that would have allowed commercial insurers to offer coverage of elective abortions.

Under their proposal, many insurance companies will probably offer plans to millions of low- and middle-income women who will get federal subsidies to help them buy coverage.

If they cover elective abortions, these insurers would have to maintain separate accounts for these women, so that only private money is used to pay for abortion services.

The new government insurance plan would have to make similar arrangements.

But this arrangement never satisfied conservative Democrats, who threatened to derail the healthcare legislation unless their demands were met for stricter prohibitions on the use of federal funding for abortions.

And in the end, Pelosi had to convince the liberal wing of her party to hold their noses and back a bill that would restrict access to abortions more than many wanted.

With 258 seats -- counting newly elected New York Rep. Bill Owens, who was sworn in Friday -- Democrats can afford to lose 40 members and still pass the bill.

But as Pelosi (D-San Francisco) and other senior Democrats met into the night with undecided members, their safety margin appeared to be narrowing. A succession of Democrats went public with their plans to oppose the bill, including first-term Reps. John Adler of New Jersey, Suzanne Kosmas of Florida, Walt Minnick of Idaho and Frank Kratovil Jr. of Maryland.

Many other centrist Democrats said they still hadn't made up their minds Friday, including Rep. Tom Perriello (D-Va.). "I've been really trying to get to yes," he said.

No Republicans are expected to vote for the more than $1-trillion measure, which would expand health coverage to 96% of Americans over the next decade
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:13 AM
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1. Another "Water is Wet" moment of Pelosi caving. K&R
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:14 AM
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2. An Anti-Abortion ammendment to get the bill through is understandable, it can be added later
However, a public option is mandatory


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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:15 AM
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3. not a big deal
that's the kind of thing you remove in conference.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:27 AM
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6. Women's bodies as the constant negotiation chip is a HUGE deal

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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:42 AM
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9. I understand
all I'm saying is that this provision doesn't even have to be in the final bill even if its in this bill.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:17 PM
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11. I stayed up last night arguing here on DU, an alleged Democratic Board with a poster
who alleged that abortions were just like face lifts and another that said that they didn't want to pay for the irresponsible behavior of women who should "pay for their Fix" and that birth control shouldn't be covered! And they were not alone. There was another post in which Rhianna the singer was accused of having brought her beating on herself by the clothes she wore. This problem of disrespect for women is pervasive and i never thought I would see so much of it on a Democratic Board and in the Democratic Party and by women yet.

And appeasement of the conservadems is viewed as simply expedient and submitting to blackmail is normal.The religious right is now dominating Democratic politics as well. We are on a really dangerous slope.Those young women who do not recognize that even birth control is under attack as an abotafacient and are cocky about the availability of abortions should they need it are going to have their eyes opened up soon. Women have paid for the right to decide their biological fate with their blood and the democratic party is slowly contributing to that erosion with these so called minor concessions.

I will be criticized for hyperbole for this, I know.I will be informed abortions are already not covered by federal funds so it is no big deal. I remind you Dems didn't fight down the original ban either and they are allowing this to bolster the original bill but this time the "private" ensures who participate in the exchange are banned from ensuring abortions.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:19 AM
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4. Conservat- er, I mean "centrists" got their way? Really? Gosh, what a suprise.
Our Blue Dog Masters have spoken.

"Compromise" always means that Liberals have to give up something.

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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:29 AM
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7. Make that something, everything...and you will be right

This bill is AWFUL.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:30 AM
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8. I stand corrected. n/t
n/t
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 11:27 AM
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5. FUCK THAT SHIT!
:grr:
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:08 PM
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10. DITTO!!!!!!
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 03:38 PM
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12. There is no doubt left at all. The base is a complete joke to them.

They are so smug in their 'where they going to go?'...they don't even bother to try to represent us

Until they know we won't support democratic traitors, they will continue to shit on us at every turn.

I have had it.
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