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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:09 PM
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Am I delusional?
I'm trying to put together a dialog in my mind that gives me a picture of our (the USA's) relationship with various nations around the world. I roll around the China and all I can see is that it is a leach on our nation. They abet the crime which was our abandonment by the corporate owner's of our national wealth. Do you remember the lost dream of the future as predicted by the likes of Popular Mechanics and Reader's Digest of the late 50's and 60's? Leisure time would increase to the point that we'd hardly have to show up at work at all. The progress of modern science was going to benefit us all - the American worker first - and prosperity would go on forever.

Didn't happen.

All that leisure time that you and my parents earned in front of the drafting boards and on the factory floors - it got sucked up and converted into raw cash by the plant owners, the very ones who were first to abandon us in the flight off shore to cheaper - sheeper - labor. And who took their place?

The Chinese swarmed in to suck up the scraps and return to us poorly made substitutes for the improved models we once designed, manufactured, marketed, and enjoyed.

On to Japan and the great question, why did they get Demming instead of us?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:11 PM
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1. ...
:applause:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:19 PM
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2. China was just there to take advantage of the corporate greed of US corporations.
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 07:20 PM by BrklynLiberal
If American corporations..like Walmart.,etc..were not so compelled to keep increasing their bottom line up to infinity..there would never have been an opportunity for China to be in the position it is in.
If they own all our debt, it is because that debt was there for them to buy up.

What happened to protective tariffs, labor unions, etc. The govt has become one with corporations. All that matters is profits.
Eventually that kind of game would cost us...and it has.


Those "poorly made substitutes for the improved models we once designed, manufactured, marketed, and enjoyed" are still being manufactured by AMERICAN corporations....in China..so labor costs are lower and their profits are higher.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 08:31 PM
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4. Black and Decker is a notable example. A once fine company
turning out absolute junk.

Charge me more and give me a quality product,not a throwaway product that has to be replaced every year or two.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 07:41 PM
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3. I felt along time ago.
If American companies wanted to move factories and jobs across borders and over seas then they should not be allowed to ship the products back here to be sold , just take their entire operation and get the hell out .

We could have and would have been better off replacing them with new ones here. This would have also made other companies think twice before jumping ship.

It was all done for cheap labor and a high profit margin.

Other countries used to make products in their own country that we bought and that was fine.

That's global trade not a global economy.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 08:38 PM
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5. That's a good idea .....
The only thing I would do differently is to charge them a huge tax penalty before they left. Those could be used in their aggregate to help fund the development of new, US based businesses and encourage their growth.
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 08:52 PM
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6. Don't forget the American consumer cutting his own throat. Self inflicted mortal wound I say.
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