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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:04 PM
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Fort Hood Suspect Car had previously been keyed..

so why is the army denying that he had not been picked on and harassed? things are not adding up from what the army is reporting..they seem to be reporting the story they want the public to hear...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091106/ap_on_re_us/us_fort_hood_shooting
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:05 PM
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1. Yeah, getting my car keyed always throws me into a murderous rage.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:08 PM
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4. you are naive if you think there's just been a single incident..
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:10 PM
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7. You're right. It's totally not his fault.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:56 PM
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20. There were warning signs. The Army paid no attention -
They just pushed rhw man to the limit and they lost -Big Time!!! We all lost Big Time!!!!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:13 PM
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9. it is not an excuse to kill people n/t
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:15 PM
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10. Agreed. Such behavior, and the Macho Dick attitudes fueling it, usually aren't isolated
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 02:15 PM by Echo In Light
But for some, if you point that out, they'll give the responses you're getting from some here.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:11 PM
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25. How have you reached that conclusion
you are just making that assertion - prove it or stop making things up
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:06 PM
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2. As to your last sentence; "they seem to be reporting the story they want the public to hear..."
Standard procedure for any and all structures and positions of authority and Power in America.
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:07 PM
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Who hasn't had something vandalized at some point?
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:07 PM
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3. People are bullied and
harassed every freeking day and don't turn into mass murderers. What is your point?
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:00 PM
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23. The point is some men can handle it, others can't. The Army knew he was
having problems!!! They just kept pushing him!!!
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:10 PM
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5. I think school shootings have shown that sometimes people bullied can only take so much
Doesn't make what they do right and one would expect an adult to have better control of his emotions but if he was systematically harassed, as a commanding officer no less, plus add up all the horrors he had to listen to on a daily basis, then look up the word fragging and maybe you can see why this guy went over the edge (if that's in fact what happened).

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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:10 PM
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I had my car keyed last year, and witnesses had seen an illegal alien do it
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 02:12 PM by mule_train
true story

cops couldnt do anythingt, and i see the (remanents of) the scratches every time i get into my car

and no, i did not threaten or do violence against him
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:20 PM
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11. Ummm. How did they know the culprit was an illegal alien?
Did they ask him for his papers? Was he carrying a sign? Oh, he had brown skin, I see.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:28 PM
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15. The perp's space ship had Mars plates.
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:40 PM
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16. because the cop said so
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 02:48 PM by mule_train
but maybe the cop was just a RACIST

Q: 'What do you call someone you dont agree with?

A: 'A RACIST!'
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:56 PM
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39. They walk in the boiling sun forever across the desert where many have died, to get to key the cars
of good, decent, real light Americans!

Thank God some patriotic American real white guys spotted him not as a Mexican American, but an illegal, so he didn't get to pull it off so slickly after all.

Same "illegal" set this car fire. I think he's worn out his welcome by now.

http://aviewfrommybalcony.files.wordpress.com.nyud.net:8090/2007/11/car_fire.jpg
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Cash_thatswhatiwant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:10 PM
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6. the point is..?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:12 PM
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8. Getting keyed? Reason enough for going on a killinig spree...NOT!
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rollin74 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:22 PM
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12. car gets keyed= go and shoot 30+ people
perfectly understandable.
:eyes: :crazy:
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:26 PM
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14. Are you *hoping* that's the point the OP is making?
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:11 PM
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24. Yes it is if you're a fuckin psycho being pushed to the limit. The Army should
have discharged him. "Camel Jockey" just goes so far to the unbalanced. He obviuosly is unbalanced.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:23 PM
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13. I believe there was some provocation and rude treatment because
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 02:24 PM by TwilightGardener
of his religion--that's what was reported by his colleagues. I hear all about the mean shit that's tossed around in everyday casual conversation from my husband's coworkers. The military is no different than any other opinionated, gossipy, cliquey workplace, where people bring up their personal prejudices, sexism, political beliefs, religious beliefs, bad attitudes and misinformation, instead of being professional. Not sure what role this played in this case, but it certainly couldn't have been helpful. On edit--and no, I'm not saying it's excusable by any stretch, I think this guy was a cowardly bastard who should burn in hell. But there's no reason not to examine what may have sent him over the edge.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:42 PM
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17. This is one of those rare times where the mass killer can explain
why he did it.
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:44 PM
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18. His family said they started calling him "Camel Jockey" after 9/11 . nt
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:53 PM
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19. We now have a society based on the flawed theory that authority can switch people's beliefs on/off
Edited on Fri Nov-06-09 02:55 PM by mule_train
'We are in a war against radical islam, they are the enemy'

(I think if we didnt have one sided support for a certain country in the middle east, we'd have a lot less trouble with islam)

'major husan is a muslim - value his diversity'

'major husan, this is America - we respect your religious beliefs - now go kill muslims'

people think you can intmidate people into ignoring these blatent contradictions under stress when people know they might die

but it doesnt work
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 02:59 PM
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21. Having your car keyed justifies violence against the person who did it
not random folks who had nothing to do with it.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:00 PM
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22. I've had my car keyed
I knew who did it, too, and amazingly enough I failed to go on a shooting spree.
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:13 PM
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26. Well you failed then.
You could have had some posts begging for compassion for you by now.

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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:15 PM
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27. Because you are not crazy !!!!
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:28 PM
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31. Then I have no compassion for you, sir.
I reserve my compassion and understanding for persons who have killed a minimum of five people.
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:15 PM
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28. We had a swastika keyed onto the side of our car. When can I begin my spree?
It was years ago but I had no idea harassment is carte blanche for a murder spree.

In fact, when can everyone who has been harassed because of their race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, disability, etc get to go on a spree? Should we all co-ordinate? Is there a sign up sheet?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:29 PM
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32. I was called four eyes in grade school
and was teased in high school for playing Dungeons and Dragons.

You will all pay dearly for these offenses.
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:34 PM
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34. Should we bring pastries and fruit to the sign up party?
I don't want anyone previously offended to become even more offended that we aren't serving refreshments at the I Was Offended And Need To Kill meeting....
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:38 PM
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36. If your pastries contain peanuts I'm killing all of you on the spot. nt
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:39 PM
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37. Ack! Someone call Tom and tell him cancel the nut bars! Cancel the nut bars! nt
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:18 PM
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29. alrighty then that explains everything!!!
this is the silliest thread yet

everybody's car gets keyed at some point or another FFS

people who equate their car w. their dick need to get a better script is all i can say
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:21 PM
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30. I hope your local police dept is keeping an eye on you hipchick
if you think getting your car keyed is justification of going on a shooting rampage.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:32 PM
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33. is there a link to the army denying the harassment claim? its not in the linked story
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:36 PM
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35. I remember the army as a perpetual state of harassment.
but managed not to shoot people.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 03:40 PM
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38. Good god, the lack of intelligence in this thread-- arguing that keying
a car doesn't warrant shooting people as if that was what the OP stated.

Pathetic ignorance is no longer an excuse.

Adults should be held accountable for their stupidity.

We should strive to be better than Freepers.

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 04:08 PM
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41. no shoot..
unfuckingbelievable.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 04:07 PM
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40. you have some real fucking idiots on this board to be sure..
and i'm not referring to your observation, but the idiotic responses. the guy was FUCKING mentally unstable. not an excuse, but merely an OBSERVATION. fuck me.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 04:09 PM
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42. +1 My sentiments exactly.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 04:10 PM
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43. Bullying is not a problem people recognize
but giving us the story they want to... SOP, and NOT JUST IN THE US.

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