Somali adulterer stoned to death

[timzi]

Source: BBC

It appears that Somalia, land of pirates, is also a land of religious fanatics.
I think I dislike the pirates less.


Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8347216.stm

[brendan120678]

1. They're probably...

more or less the same people.

[One of Many]

2. Shining example

Of a completely free market system coupled with religious theocracy

Vote Pat Robertson for President and abolish all government regulations and that would be us ...

[ShortnFiery]

3. A significant number of women are killed by their boyfriends and husbands every year ....

some of them are beaten to death.

OUR blessed society does not hold a moral high ground just because we don't have laws condoning it. :thumbsdown:

[leftynyc]

7. Really?

Where would you rather live? Which country would you rather raise your children in? Same article has a report of a 13 year old that was raped and then stoned for adultery. Fucking barbarians.

[ShortnFiery]

11. Yeah, how bout those Salem Witch Trials? We all have a past. There's no good

to be served in acting "morally superior" to an third world country.

[WinkyDink]

15. The operative word is "past". As in, 1692 is not 2009.

[leftynyc]

16. You're laughable

Having to go back to the salem witch trials to make a point. Why don't you try something in this or last century? Or do we just sit back and wait for them to decide to civilize while they're killing women and children?

[JonQ]

18. So you're saying somalia now is comparable to european culture

over 400 years ago? I would agree in general to that. I fail to see how that makes us equivalent though.

For instance, if you routinely burst in to temper tantrums in public as an adult when you don't get something you want, do you think you could cite in your defense that everyone else did that too (when they were infants)? How do you think that would go?

[EOTE]

28. Wow! Really? You're gonna go there?!?

We can't judge a fucking backward ass society like that because 300+ years ago we did really fucked up shit too? Perhaps we should make rape legal because cavemen did it too? No doubt that America still has a shit load of problems, but this type of stuff is so barbaric it needs to be condemned strongly.

[cali]

9. frankly, that's an utterly ridiculous comparison

Somalia is not a functional society. And yeah, it makes a huge difference that you can't be stoned to death for fucking.

[ShortnFiery]

14. Dead is Dead. Whether another HUMAN is stoned or bombed by Predator Drones ...

their loved ones grieve.

[cali]

27. weak and confused sums up your "argument"

I can't help but pity you.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

10. There is violence but its prosecuted not encouraged

The recent economic conditions have added to the domestic violence levels, and its not restricted to a single gender or sexual orientation

[ShortnFiery]

12. How many years did it take for us to get it right? Now there's evidence that

we, superior Americans, may have executed an INNOCENT MAN in Texas.

Again, America is more evolved but we are hardly superior. If we don't fiercely watch out for our human rights, we could devolve in a heartbeat. Need I mention "The Bush Reign" of rendition and torture?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

29. If you think the US, even it its worst urban hellholes is just a heartbeat away from

Somalia, I'd like to know what Zipcodes you are talking about. Its not even close...

[JonQ]

17. I would say having laws against such actions rather than laws mandating those actions

is an important distinction.

But if you think women in the US are treated exactly the same as women in somalia, well you're free to go there and find out. You may however not be free to come back.

[Boojatta]

4. On the bright side, I understand that the person who cast the first stone was without sin.

[barbtries]

5. they're going to kill his girlfriend

after she gives birth. 21st century anyone?

[JonQ]

20. Over there they're still working on the 12th century

just give them a few millenia.

[dysfunctional press]

6. i didn't think that you could die from smoking pot....

:shrug:

[dugaresa]

8. "The country has not had a functioning national government for 18 years."

that pretty much explains why religious fanaticism is welcome.

Masses of poor folks living in chaos for any number of years are likely to welcome any order, even if it is crazy. Has less to do with religion and more to do with people being tired of the chaos.

That is the key reason the taliban gained a foothold in Afghanistan and generally once order is restored, eventually people get tired of the harsh behavior and they start to "liberalize" the government to suit their needs but it takes a long time for that to happen.

[ShortnFiery]

13. No, it's much more comforting for Americans to type "superiority" from their keyboards ...

than for us to show sympathy for the utter chaos that exists in that lawless land.

Unfortunately, they don't have OIL. We won't ever help those people in any significant way.

Now how does it feel to be an American? :eyes:

[leftynyc]

21. Sympathy?!!

For murderers of women and children for having sex? You must be kidding. Is my country perfect? Not even close but superior to THAT? Very much so.

[Hello_Kitty]

24. Yeah, like we're being so helpful to the places that DO have oil. eom

[dugaresa]

25. I have sympathy for the victims of Sharia but what can I do?

History basically shows that people don't like anyone from the outside pushing into their business, so how do you suggest we fix this?

Should we pursue a modern form of social colonialism to enforce our social values upon another nation?

There are UN troops there already trying to help and Americans have died there, how many more Americans should die to protect the Somali's from themselves?

[Nye Bevan]

26. The US *is* superior

as proved by the fact that you felt the need to go back 400 years to the Salem Witch Trials earlier in order to argue the contrary. And of course I feel bad for everyone living in these horrible barbaric regimes where adultery and homosexuality is punished by death. The question is, what can we do to help these people? Obviously we are not going to invade them. Perhaps Islamic leaders in the US could do more to condemn this kind of stuff?

[JonQ]

19. Religious fanatacism can also take place in countries with order

and relatively secular governments. It happened in Iran.

[dugaresa]

23. but in Iran it was the popular reaction to the pro-western autocratic goverment

to the folks who wanted to halt the westernization and bring back their feeling of identity, that was considered "chaos".

So the religious leaders mobilized the young and overthrew the government to "cleanse itself" of western authority. And now almost 30 years later the young folks who are now living under that regime feel a bit constricted and may do it again but reverse the trend but make it more liberal. History, it goes in cycles.

[Doctor_J]

22. Sounds like the borth of a slogan

next time a sanctimonious repuke gets caught Hiking The Appalachian Trail, our response should be "send him to Somalia"