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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:39 PM
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Dartmouth scientist says Oswald rifle photo real
Source: HOLLY RAMER, Associated Press Writer

CONCORD, N.H. – The infamous photograph of Lee Harvey Oswald holding a rifle in his backyard would have been nearly impossible to fake, according to a new analysis by a Dartmouth College professor.

Oswald, who was shot to death days after being charged with the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy, claimed the photo of him holding a rifle in one hand and Marxist newspapers in the other had been doctored. Over the years, many others have pointed out what appear to be inconsistent lighting and shadows.

But Hany Farid, director of the Neukom Institute for Computational Science at Dartmouth, said the shadows are exactly where they should be.

"You can never really prove an image is real, but the evidence that people have pointed to that the photo is fake is incorrect," Farid said Thursday. "As an academic and a scientist, I don't like to say it's absolutely authentic ... but it's extremely unlikely to have been a fake."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091105/ap_on_re_us/us_oswald_photo
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:41 PM
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1. Faking photos wasn't so easy back then.
It was something of a joke, usually. The airbrushing and such was pretty obvious.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:47 PM
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3. I've followed this off and on for years...
I recall that the photos of Oswald holding the rifle in the backyard of the place he stayed as being a big deal to a lot of people.

There were other "anomalies" besides the shadows; I wonder if they will address those.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:47 PM
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2. What about the photos of the *other* Oswald(s), going in and out of embassies, and such?
n/t
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:56 PM
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4. The one thing I don't get about Oswald
is the "I'm a patsy" bit. That's what gives me pause.

Booth shot Lincoln and yelled "Sic semper tyrannis". Guiteau shot Garfield and said, "I am a stalwart and now Arthur is President". Czolgosz shot McKinley and said "I done my duty". Why shoot a President and then act like you didn't do it? It just gives me pause.
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gabyhakenzamp Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:59 PM
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5. Oswald was pretending to be a communist. That the photo was real doesn't preclude his patsyness
Oswald was being ordered to create a communist front. That's why he created the one-man Fair Play for Cuba committee hoax.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:08 PM
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9. I agree with you n/t
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:01 PM
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6. "Real" or not, it probably has little value in proving/disprovimg
the widely held belief that Oswald was nothing more than a "patsy" in a well organized conspiracy.

One item that's of some significance, given that he was alleged to have had some connection with the Communist Party USA: That "Marxist newspaper" was "The Militant", party organ of the (Trotskyist) Socialist Workers Party. That would be like a Hard-shell Baptist wearing a crucifix!

pnorman
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:02 PM
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7. Were they able to match any other bullets to that rifle, other than the so-called "magic" one?
The one that popped out while JFK's body was on a stretcher in virtually unmarked condition? Just wondering, as I'm not that well-informed on the details of the assassination.
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:25 PM
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11. Oswald was so shocked
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 10:28 PM by oswaldactedalone
that he'd gotten caught, he tried to lie his way out of it. He believed he was intellectually superior to others, and thought his plan was foolproof. Saying "I'm a patsy" was his attempt to mislead.

Learn more about Oswald the deluded man, learn more about what that make of bullet would look like after striking two people(hint, it looks like they always look in the same circumstance,) learn that the sounds from the grassy knoll were echos and reverberations of the sound waves created by the shots from the depository. No conspiracy folks, Oswald acted alone.

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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:55 PM
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12. the day that
you can take a bolt action rifle, hit a moving target three times in under seven seconds, I will believe you. Even the military people couldn't repeat this when they tried...as I recall from so long ago.
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lefty369 Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:05 PM
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8. Not so sure it was Oswald
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:11 PM
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10. Face it, no matter what the evidence shows, he was a conservative right winger.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 11:42 PM
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13. They found more than 1 photo of him in the backyard
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 11:43 PM by Johonny
although the others don't get mentioned for whatever reason.
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