22. actually, when you become president you become leader of all. That
means that the civil rights of a group should not be up to a vote of a fucking state. Civil rights for some and not for others? I remember that. It was called segregation. People with balls did the heavy lifting a long time ago to get civil rights for all against the tide and they knew there would be a cost but they did it because they were LEADERS and because it was RIGHT. Amazing that we can't expect leadership now and when those of us who remembered what that looked like call out those now who don't do it, we get hammered.
26. I agree with your post, but we knew Pres. Obama was against civil rights
when we elected him. This does not mean Pres. Obama gets a pass on civil rights, but it does mean we should not be surprised when he is lackadaisical on this issue.
8. But then why would this issue come first with any President at the current time?
There's a feeling here that this issue should come first with the POTUS. Behind the economy and the wars, the flu and other problems. Like he should spend his first efforts on this.
And this was a state referendum. Tell me somebody campaigned on the right side of it there. Why depend on the POTUS? That's a silly strategy.
And you are too quick to call me a "raging bigot." If you think I'm one, you should meet some real ones. And there is soft support out there that this kind of strategy will turn off.
I have stated this many times here on DU too but,no matter what you say you will never win because with some in the gay community it means that you hate gay people..
If Obama came out and said he supported gay marriage then he would be hammered at the polls, in the right controlled media, and through a very strong fundy network. Now if gay marriage is to become a fundamental right (as it should be by the 14th amendment) then the change will be a final sea change (national) and that will come through a court ruling. Give Obama enough time and he will be able to install enough federal and supreme court judges that will uphold that every American needs equal protection and the same rights under the Constitution and then Gay Marriage will be the law of the land.
The change will come and it is not a matter of if but when and these anti person's rights laws that are being passed will be seen as the same as the "state's rights movement" and the anti civil rights actions of the 1950s and 1960s.
Sadly the undeniable fact that gays & lesbians will one day enjoy the same protection under the law as everybody else still does not take away the sting of hateful actions as we saw in the Maine vote. Remember Jackie Robinson was not allowed to say anything to all his tormentors for 2 seasons .... Obama is in much the same space now.
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