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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:31 PM
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Oh now the bullshit is getting deep
Asshole on MSNBC "suggesting" that shooter might have been motivated by some tape released by teenage "Al Qaeda" wannabe Adam Pearlman. :eyes:

Let's see how quick this becomes the official spin.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:32 PM
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1. this 'news' pattern is disturbing...'event' then hours of pure speculation with few, if any facts
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:35 PM
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3. The real truth won't come out until an investigation
Which will not end until 2013.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:32 PM
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2. They want to blame anything but our INSANE WARS, nt
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spirit of wine Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:36 PM
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And yet those stories about 9/11 seemed so implausible
and were sent to the dungeon? Pleeeeease!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:36 PM
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4. My hunch is that he was haunted by what he saw in his PTSD patients every day..
and didn't want to see any more kids coming home like that.

Everything is speculation at this point.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:34 PM
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15. So he decided that being gunned down by their trusted counselor while unarmed would be better?
True, it's all spec at this point, but I don't buy that it was a "mercy" killing spree.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:36 PM
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5. Speculation City - without any facts
with statements like "it's possible", "could it be?", "he may have". I think they could at least wait for the facts surrounding this guy before embarking on theories about a personal Jihad.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:36 PM
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6. In days it will be the fault of
President Obama.....and, of course, ACORN.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:38 PM
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7. Ill give CNN credit..they are talking to professionals about PTSD
and the constant redeployment that is causing soldiers to lose their minds.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:42 PM
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8. Funny how this is happening just before the Patriot act is coming back for renewal.
Just sayin'...
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:44 PM
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9. Considering this all took place on a military base
I don't know how the fuck they could use it to justify extending fascist restrictions against the civilian population.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:46 PM
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11. The general population won't even take that into consideration in the same way you did.
If anything they will think "Of it happened there with all those soldiers and security...why not at the local Piggly Wiggly!"
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 07:45 PM
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10. 3 hours ago it was reported as a coordinated attack by a group of muslims wearing
army uniforms.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:05 PM
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12. This shit is disgusting.
The MSM really sucks.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 08:35 PM
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13. "Al Qaeda wannabe Adam Pearlman"
There is an AlQ wannabe named Adam "Pearlman????" It's a bad joke, yes? Maybe something inspired by Sacha Cohen? Someone laughs heartily over this, I'm sure.

The 24 hour news is the death of honesty and journalism - they've just got to get he blood out on the wire any way they can, even if they have to make it up.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:29 PM
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14. War at any cost.. That is Our Goal... your children die.. We Profit...
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 09:29 PM by lib2DaBone
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:42 PM
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16.  He was also "happy" over a soldier getting killed at a recruitment center in Arkansas
URL: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fort-Hood-shooting-Nidal-Malik-Hasan-said-Muslims-should-rise-up.html


"He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans," Col Lee told Fox News.

"He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we should not be in the war in the first place." He said that Maj Hasan said he was "happy" when a US soldier was killed in an attack on a military recruitment centre in Arkansas in June. An American convert to Islam was accused of the shootings.

Col Lee said that other officers had told him that Maj Hasan had said "maybe people should strap bombs on themselves and go to Time Square" in New York.

He said he was aware that the major had been subject to "name calling" during heated arguments with other officers.


I don't care if he was being picked on or PTSD he should have not been allowed to be a soldier. Retired Col Terry Lee said he reported this guy to superiors but it fell on deaf ears.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:57 PM
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17. Telegraph quoting FAUX Noize?
Can I get those quotes from a news source? :shrug:
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 09:59 PM
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18. They're quoting the Retired Col. who called fox news. n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:02 PM
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19. Retired Col? So he wasn't there either?
That makes it hearsay.

BTW.... just breaking on the news.... Hasan isn't even fucking dead! Maybe he'll speak for himself?

Unless somebody takes him out first.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:04 PM
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21. Of course he wasnt there if you actually read the story he was talking about past incidents n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:08 PM
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22. My point is, you have third degree hearsay being reported as "news" here
By these right wing turd Murdoch companies. And, as I just said, they don't even have the central fucking fact of the story right, as the shooter, reported dead for the last 6 hours, is very much alive.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:13 PM
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24. The Army falsely reported him dead and every station included MSNBC thought he was dead
Edited on Thu Nov-05-09 10:14 PM by 951-Riverside
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/military_news/news_ap_attacks_at_fort_hood_connecticut_units200911051555

Lt. Gen Bob Cone said at a news conference that one shooter has been killed and two suspects were apprehended on Thursday. He says they are all U.S. soldiers.


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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:03 PM
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20. MSNBC is nothing but a far right mouthpiece!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:10 PM
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23. I wouldn't say that.
But the guy who suggested that particular talking point to Tweety was definitely shilling for some shithead neocon group.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-05-09 10:17 PM
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25. Balloon Boy is somehow involved - believe it
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