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Brooklyns_Finest Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:54 PM
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Why isn't the Ohio Serial Killer a bigger story on DU?
I mean this has all the trappings of something that I can see endless threads about. A man who is being questioned for the murder of at least 11 different women. All of the bodies being stored in his home with no one knowing the better. A man who was a convicted sex offender and a former Marine. If this was a white guy being questioned for the deaths of 11 white women or black women there would be countless threads about violence against women. Shoot, if it was a black guy who killed 11 white women, I bet you'd see a lot of threads. The fact that this story involves a black dude killing black women makes it a non-story to most people. I guess the death of black people by black people is so common that nobody really cares.

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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:56 PM
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1. i haven't heard much about this story either
i need to read up on it. btw, i agree with you.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:56 PM
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2. I don't pay attention to any stories on DU that aren't politics. TV spends plenty of time on them.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:57 PM
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3. Because it's not Crime Library?
Just a guess.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:58 PM
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4. We had more than a few threads last week
Sowell is mentally ill and needed treatment since high school.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:21 PM
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20. Yep... and if we had single payer...
Maybe, just maybe, he would have gotten some help and maybe some lives would have been saved.

Thanks to St. Ronnie of Reagan, the mentally ill have been set free... it's up to them if they get treatment or not... you can't force them UNTIL they become a danger to others or themselves.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:21 PM
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21. So I'm not the only one. I've seen multiple threads about it as well. n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:59 PM
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5. Oy vey
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:04 PM
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6. Your question is a headscratcher...it's a terrifying story! nt
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:05 PM
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7. Oh please. MUST you make this about race? Here?
We have been following this and discussing the case. What more do you want?

Don't confuse DUers with the attention span of the MSM and their fascination with missing white women.

The man was mentally ill.

Unrec.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:18 PM
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18. Serial killers are usually middle aged white males who kill white women
Serial killers who are men who kill men; who are not white, not male and/or kill outside their race are unusual. Serial killers are frightening enough; when they don't fit the pattern, it's scarier and from a psychological perspective, interesting.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:45 PM
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26. I haven't read much about this case. What kind of mental illness
does he have?
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:59 PM
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30. No idea. References have been about "veteran" and "mentally ill".
Perhaps a HIPAA thing. No idea.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:00 PM
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31. Thank you, Ruby.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:05 PM
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8. I had no idea he or his victims were black. I can't bear to read the articles beyond the 1st par.
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:06 PM
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9. It'll probably be wall-to-wall on MSNBC this weekend...
...if past is prologue...

PS Are you really a NY cop?
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:06 PM
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10. A better question would be why you are trying to make this an issue of race?
You can't turn on the TV without hearing something about the story, so obviously a great deal of people do care about it. Are you trying to suggest that DUers are more racist than the average person on the street?

Since there really isn't anything political about the story I think that may be why it isn't being discussed more on a web site dedicated primarily to politics. No need to read anything more into it.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:07 PM
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11. Because this isn't NancyGraceUnderground?
:shrug:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:14 PM
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15. !!!
:spray: We may need a 'flaming nostrils of justice' emoticon.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:20 PM
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19. +!
Perfect.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:15 PM
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33. LOL
:evilgrin:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:08 PM
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12. I admit curiosity about an atypical serial killer not from Kansas City
For a while at least, KC led the nation in per capita serial killings, and had atypical killers (Berdella, who killed young men; a black serial killer whose name escapes me at the moment) as well as the typical middle aged white men. It being a transportation hub might explain the unusually high number of these type of killings, mostly unresolved in the area.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:10 PM
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13. I was thinking of a side story
this morning - don't remember which network - some neighbors said how the smell was awful from that place.

There is a sausage making factory close by, and everyone blamed it on the sausages so the poor owner had to replace his grease trap and take other measures because of the smell.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:10 PM
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14. Well, it's huge where I live (suburban Cleveland area)
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 08:11 PM by HughBeaumont
The death toll is up to 11 and the first victim's been identified.

We've had a few stories here, but it's not AS big as it should be because it happen in a crime-ridden section of Cleveland. Suburbanites who watch cable news networks really only care if such a thing happened in suburban areas.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:17 PM
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16. Because he wasn't on anti-depressants?

Anti-depressants cause mass-murders, you know. I know, I know, you're going to say what about all the mass-murders *BEFORE* anti-depressants. Well we'll just ignore those, n'kay?
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:18 PM
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17. There have been threads about this story.
I think it's odd that you're injecting race into this and that the last three sentences of your post are disturbing to me.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:24 PM
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22. there have been threads. plural. what is left to be said? no controversy. he is scum
i didnt know his race. i didnt know the victims race. another killer in a long line of killers

what are you wanting????

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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:26 PM
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23. There have been threads on this story.
Serial killers aren't given a whole lot of attention on DU in general, I'm guessing because it's not a political subject. But there have been discussions about this story.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:27 PM
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24. This should do it
"Wade said it was the police who decided not to pursue charges of attempted rape, kidnapping and robbery against Sowell, following the alleged attack on Dec. 8, 2008.

Cleveland Police have said they dropped the case because the victim did not want to press charges.

"I did not tell them that," Wade said. "Now it turns out they find all those bodies. I think some of those bodies would have been spared (had police pursued the case.) I feel like justice failed me.""

http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=124762&catid=45



Ooooo...bad cops. This will get some threads going..lol
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:41 PM
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25. It has been discussed..many threads when it broke
perhaps it's let up because it's still ongoing, and they are still finding bodies..:shrug:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:46 PM
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27. Because he was mainly known as a plain old convicted rapist and not a serial killer
He's not infamous enough yet.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:46 PM
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28. It goes on all over the country. Because it's more important to ...
incarcerate someone for the possession of a marijuana seed.. than to put sick sex offenders in jail.

What was the latest Homeland Security Budget that was recently rubber stamped for DEA and TSA.. something like $52 Billion?

I'm too tired to even look up the links... no one cares...
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:57 PM
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29. I don't think DU is place for gruesome personal crime stories.
For this DUer, I don't want to read stories about rapes and murders of either white or black women, so it's not about race. I just don't REC them. One DUer called them "news porn."
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:08 PM
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32. I guess you didn't notice the whole election thing going on.
Probably got in too much of a hurry to call your fellow DUers racist to notice.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:15 PM
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34. You are right we don't here much about black on black violence.
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:17 PM
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35. It isn't newsworthy
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likesmountains 52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:18 PM
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36. Well, I never even knew that he, or his victims, were black. I don't think it's
a racial thing on DU.
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