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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:49 PM
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Have there been any documented cases of someone getting the H1N1 vaccine
and getting the flu, or is it too early? Could this happen? I imagine it could, but don't know.
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:52 PM
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1. Maybe if they got the vaccine after they had already been exposed to the flu
But hadn't come down with it yet.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 07:52 PM
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2. Not from what I have read.
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 07:53 PM by Horse with no Name
And I have been watching.
But the chances of it happening are slim to none. There isn't enough live virus in the live virus to cause illness.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:00 PM
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3. I guess my question is, has it not protected anyone yet?
I read something startling today-more than half of Americans don't want the vaccine?

Have you/will you get it? I saw part of that 60 Minutes report, and I'm really torn. It didn't make it sound like we'd be guinea pigs, there weren't many adverse reactions, but still...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:02 PM
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5. Yes.
I saw a report on the Dallas station last night that it has protected 100% of vaccinated pregnant women and 90% of kids under 7. The results were remarkable at how "on the money" the vaccine was.
Let me see if I can dig up an article.
It was very encouraging.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:04 PM
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7. There's always a chance of getting it, even after the vaccine
Flu viruses are constantly mutating. With enough of mutations, it could infect someone.

Very unlikely, but still possible.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:15 PM
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9. Most people CAN'T get the vaccine.
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 08:15 PM by clear eye
There's a severe shortage and basically healthy adults are not being offered it. Even healthy 60-somethings are not elegible since they either had or were vaccinated against the "Asian flu" in the 1950s which was a very similar strain, so they're probably already immune. The very elderly may have lost their full immunity due to an aging immune system. I think most people were saying that they'd leave the vaccine for children and people w/ impaired immune systems or other high-risks--not that they were afraid of it.

There are minimal adverse reactions from the vaccine, and severe reactions including death from the actual flu if you are particularly vulnerable. If your doctor thinks for some reason you need it, get it. Children, especially those w/ asthma or a history of bronchitis, should be vaccinated if their doctors or local clinics can obtain it.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:18 PM
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15. there's always a chance it won't work
Most adults will develop antibodies having been exposed to the vaccine. They were recommending young children get it twice to increase the odds of developing antibodies. However there is always a small chance you won't develop antibodies having been exposed to the vaccine. The odds on this differ from vaccine to vaccine. For instance I had the Hep A vac last year and never developed antibodies to Hep A. However this is somewhat common and Hep A generally requires a booster 6 months after for adults. It's less common for flu vaccines and most adults will develop antibodies from one exposure. Flu vaccinations are pretty common and a new on is delivered on a yearly basis. I don't see any real reason this years vaccine should be any more likely to have side effects than other years, even though the special H1N1 is a very uncommon flu strain this season.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:00 PM
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4. Oops, dupe. nt
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 08:00 PM by babylonsister
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:54 PM
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11. It depends on what you mean by "catching the flu."
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 09:02 PM by pnwmom
It can cause mild flu symptoms that last for a day or two -- which is certainly better than getting the full blown flu.

From the CDC:

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm

The nasal spray (also called LAIV): The viruses in the nasal-spray vaccine are weakened and do not cause severe symptoms often associated with influenza illness. (In clinical studies, transmission of vaccine viruses to close contacts has occurred only rarely.)
In children, side effects from LAIV can include:
runny nose
wheezing
headache
vomiting
muscle aches
fever
In adults, side effects from LAIV can include
runny nose
headache
sore throat
cough
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:04 PM
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6. i will let you know
got the vaccine on monday.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:05 PM
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8. I haven't heard, but typically with any vaccine, if you get exposed before your body
has the chance to build up antibodies, you can still get sick. So even if you do get the flu 3 days after the vaccine, it was not the vaccine that gave it to you; it was the fact that you were not yet immune.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 08:44 PM
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10. The flu-mist vaccine contains a live form of the virus and
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 09:01 PM by pnwmom
can produce mild flu symptoms in some of those who take it. I don't know whether this counts as "getting the flu" in your book. To me, the risk would still be worth it. (But I have asthma so that vaccine is out for me anyway.)

From the CDC:

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm

The nasal spray (also called LAIV): The viruses in the nasal-spray vaccine are weakened and do not cause severe symptoms often associated with influenza illness. (In clinical studies, transmission of vaccine viruses to close contacts has occurred only rarely.)
In children, side effects from LAIV can include:
runny nose
wheezing
headache
vomiting
muscle aches
fever
In adults, side effects from LAIV can include
runny nose
headache
sore throat
cough
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:02 PM
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12. FluMist
CDC on CNN said that people who are getting the FluMist, the live attenuated vaccine, may be contagious for a period of 21 days. So that's something to be considered.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:11 PM
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13. Closest I could find to the story I heard
http://www.wptz.com/h1n1/21499519/detail.html
>>>snip
Twenty-one days after receiving a single 15-microgram dose of the vaccine, 92 percent of pregnant women showed a robust immune response, Dr. Anthony Fauci reported.

A larger, 30-microgram dose produced a strong response in 96 percent of pregnant women, said Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease.
>>>snip
He said among children aged 6 months to 35 months just one in four had a strong immune response after 21 days. For those 3 years to 9 years old it was 55 percent. There was a sharp improvement after a second dose, he said, raising the fully protected rate to 100 percent in those 6 months to 35 months and 94 percent in those aged 3 years to 9 years.

Giving the larger 30 microgram dose gave no added benefit, Fauci said.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:17 PM
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14. When I got my shot they said it would only be effective 10 days later. So I guess in between
now and then I could get sick. I got one early because I was on the list of populations who were eligible (canada is rolling out the shot to vulnerable populations and health care workers at first).
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