How about a Referendum on Churchs That Are Behind Anti-Gay Bigotry

[fascisthunter]

since state and church are now one, I say we put their religious freedoms up for a referendum. Sound fair.... didn't think so!

[rd_kent]

1. I think it is VERY fair.......

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. I think you are right. If one civil liberty is up for vote, then all should be. (But heaven help us

we could lose a few because of the troglodytes. x( )

[Mari333]

3. I think I should be allowed to vote on whether churches should be tax exempt

where is my vote in that??? states rights and all, motherfuckers.

[EFerrari]

13. That's what we should be doing. A big loud campaign

to see if politically active churches lose their exemption. Get them where they live, in their coffers.

[Toasterlad]

21. ABSOLUTELY.

[ensho]

4. yes we need lists of religious places that promote hate

along with the names of people speaking hate at each place

[el_bryanto]

18. And what should we do with such lists?

Is a preacher saying "The Bible teaches that Homosexuality is a Sin" a promotion of hate?

Bryant

[ensho]

23. we should shine a bright light on them for all to see their hate

nt

[Bluenorthwest]

24. Is that what they are doing, saying something?

Or are they organizing, misinforming, making TV commercials in a secular society? Do their anti equality ads ever say a word about 'sin' or 'God'? Well do they? Do they make commercials that say what you claim they say? No.

[el_bryanto]

25. I never claimed they stopped at that. I am asking how wide a net you want to spread

Bryant

[Lars39]

5. Kick and rec

Tax 'em.

[madinmaryland]

6. wrong thread.

deleted.

[fascisthunter]

7. exactly

now ask yourself why the democratic party allowed this to happen in the first place.

[madinmaryland]

8. Oops. I posted this as a new thread. Thanks for your response though.

[robinlynne]

9. ok with me. I'm sick of them. At least they need to start paying taxes.

[Echo In Light]

10. Rec

[PVnRT]

11. Fine by me - let's vote on their tax-exempt status

[Initech]

12. I was just gonna say this. Religion makes billions and pays no taxes.

They think they can infringe on our freedoms? Fuck 'em!!!! :argh:

[tomg]

14. I say GLBT groups, all progressive

groups, all democrats get together and state by state introduce amendments making marriages for straights illegal. Just to show them that to deny the rights of any group is to endanger the rights of all.

[fascisthunter]

19. actually, I'll propose we adopt the marriage system Germany Has....

you first MUST get married by state, and then if you want due to your religion can get married by a priest in a church. Neuter the religious right on this issue!

[TexasObserver]

15. The anti gay church members are all going to hell for this.

If there is a hell.

Which there very likely isn't, but maybe karma will come calling somewhere sometime.

[Joe Fields]

16. fuck the catholic church leaders here in the U.S.

Over a half million dollars donated by the church to fight a civil rights issue? They can go to hell.

Being raised a catholic and having been an altar boy for four years, I have seen nothing but hypocrisy ooze from this entity.

Sin like hell during the week and confess your sins on Saturday, and everything will be alright. That's the real motto of the Catholic church.

[Skidmore]

17. Contessa Brewer on MSNBC has been doing an excellent job

covering the Maine initiative results. She is definitely sympathetic toward the initiative and has interveiwed on both sides of the issue. She just finished interviewing this bishop who lead the movement? against it on the ballot. First, and aside, I have a problem with a group of men who will consistently not allow women to participate in its priesthood and who take vows of celibacy dictating to anyone anything regarding marriage. Second, I keep thinking that more of us need to push back and let these religious groups understand that people belong to them from choice and not all of us chose to adopt their doctrine or practices. Religion is not innate but learned and we are not a culturally homogeneous nation. We are a nation of many belief systems and practices. THEY are allowed to practice their religion because it is tolerated. Reciprocity needs to be the lingua franca when it comes to these concerns. NO ONE is standing in the way of the adherents of those faiths practicing their beliefs. However, when they begin to stand in the way of others to exercise rights and other beliefs then they need be held to account.

[Blue-Jay]

20. ANY church that involves themselves in politics should have their tax exempt status revoked.

I don't care who they endorse (cons or libs or otherwise).

[la_chupa]

22. if nothing else take away their tax exempt status

hey if they are going to dabble in politics then they're not a church, they're a PAC and subject to property taxes

and donations made to them would not longer be deductible