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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:09 PM
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Photoshop or coincidence?
Either way, I really like this image.



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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:12 PM
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1. I can see the pixels from my front porch....
No, wait! I can see the pixels from Russia! Wait! I mean, I can see Russia from...- what? What were we talking about? Pass the pretzels?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:15 PM
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2. that's definitely photoshopped
and a bad attempt to attack Obama with.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:16 PM
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3. I don't see it as an attack.
I guess it all depends on your point of view.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:36 PM
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69. well, that could very well be true...
"pass the bowl please... a yeah, I'll have the Obama Blue please, thank you!"
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:08 PM
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64. I can tell from some of the pixels and from having seen quite a few shops in my time.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:17 PM
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4. SHOPPED!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:20 PM
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5. Uh, yeah.


"Hey! Who's the creep hiding in the corn whilst I'm a-balancing on my beam?"
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:45 PM
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12. LOL!
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:21 PM
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6. Put it on Ebay. Should get as much as Cheesus
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:22 PM
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7. WTF is that? Is it poo or a burned marshmallow?
Or, you know, moss or something? What the...?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:27 PM
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8. It's whatever you want it to be.
Do you really not know what that is? :rofl:
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:42 PM
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10. Well, with you rolling around and laughing, I'm a little embarrassed to admit I don't.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:44 PM
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11. Let's put it this way: If he put it up on eBay, DEA agents would be the first to bid. n/t
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:46 PM
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13. It's a dried flower of one of the most non-toxic medicinal substances on Earth.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:46 PM
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14. Doo-dee-doo, hmm-mm-mmm...
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 01:47 PM by Brickbat
:o
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:47 PM
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15. LOL, yeah non-toxic. Only 500 chemicals.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:47 PM
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17. Show me the toxicology report of the last death it caused.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:49 PM
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18. Oh brother. Just keep smoking your crap. Tell yourself its good for you.
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 01:49 PM by JBoris
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:50 PM
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19. You didn't answer the question... because you can't n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:55 PM
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:57 PM
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22. you're the one claiming that it's toxic.
so please- since you seem to know where the reports are- you're the one that should be posting links to the proof.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:09 PM
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27. I'm the one claiming that neither of you have proof that its non-toxic.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:23 PM
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37. here you go-
http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20030918/marijuana-smoking-doesnt-kill

Marijuana Smoking Doesn't Kill

...It's been feared that marijuana smoke, like tobacco smoke, causes cancer and heart disease. The evidence argues otherwise, writes Stephen Sidney, MD, associate director for research for Kaiser Permanente, Oakland, Calif., in the Sept 20 issue of The British Medical Journal.

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30

An exhaustive search of the literature finds no credible reports of deaths induced by marijuana. The US Drug Abuse Warning Network (DAWN) records instances of drug mentions in medical examiners' reports, and though marijuana is mentioned, it is usually in combination with alcohol or other drugs. Marijuana alone has not been shown to cause an overdose death.

Source:
National Academy Press, 1999), available on the web at http://www.nap.edu/html/marimed/; and US Department of Justice, Drug Enforcement Administration, "In the Matter of Marijuana Rescheduling Petition" (Docket #86-22), September 6, 1988, p. 57.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:27 PM
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40. "Marijuana smoking isn't harmless,"
Using pot is not fatal. That doesn't mean its not bad for you.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:31 PM
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43. backpeddle much?
:rofl:- i'm laughing at the "superior intellect"...:rofl:

you said it was toxic and that you have proof of it.
let's see it.

you said there's no proof that nobody dies from it.

and yet- there it is.

:rofl:
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:40 PM
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53. Its not a difficult concept:
using pot itself isn't fatal. Its intoxicating effects can cause death. Like when you drive stoned.
There is no way to tell from toxicology if pot caused a traffic accident, because pot tests can only prove you were stoned recently, it cannot prove that you were stoned at the time of an accident.
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:56 PM
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55. Pot causes death.
Via traffic accidents! This is not an argument. If you start with the premise that pot has 500 toxic chemicals and end up with pot causes death via traffic accidents you got lost somewhere along the way. See, alcohol overdose sometimes causes death outright. Alcohol's effect from over-consumption over time can also cause death through cirrhosis, heart disease, etc. A person can also get drunk and drive, get in an accident, and die. You can't leap from chemical toxicity induced death to driving accidents brought on by anything. Its no different than saying cell phones are dangerous simply BECAUSE you can crash your car while texting.

Look at the evidence. No one will say that pot is as good for you as eating right and taking a stroll after dinner. That said, there are no studies that can prove that anyone ever OD dies from pot. Further, all of the studies that talk about pot as harmful say that pot "may" cause certain problems or contribute to pre-existing problems. Eating overcooked hamburger "may" give you cancer. Taking an aspirin "may" give you a heart attack.

And finally, if you don't want that nug, I'll take it.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:59 PM
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56. Some of the 500 chemicals are intoxicating
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 03:00 PM by JBoris
the intoxication can kill you. How is that getting lost?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:05 PM
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62. Still waiting for any shred of proof from you.
I know it's never going to come, but it sure is funny watching you try. :)
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:06 PM
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63. Its not the intoxication that kills you.
How is THAT getting lost?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:14 PM
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66. the intoxication in and of itself CANNOT KILL you.
LOTS of things can cause you to die in a traffic accidents- that doesn't make them toxic substances.

are you really that obtuse?
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:31 PM
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44. and here
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:26 PM
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38. Here
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:58 PM
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23. I'm still waiting for the link. You made the claim, back it up.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:05 PM
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24. Umm no, you made the claim that is was non-toxic first. Back it up with non-NORML links
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 02:06 PM by JBoris
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:12 PM
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30. No, I said it was "one of the most non-toxic medicinal substances on Earth"
You said I was wrong, back it up or get lost.

This is how you post a link to back up your assertion..

http://www.drugscience.org/Petition/C4D.html

Unlike alcohol and many other drugs, marijuana is non-toxic. It is impossible for someone to die from an overdose of marijuana; the drug has little effect on the heart or lungs. Excessively large doses produce long periods of sleep. Ironically, many marijuana-related visits to the emergency room involved perceived harm, such as unexpected reactions, rather than actual harm to the individual, such as life-threatening overdose.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:09 PM
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25. You say stoner like it's a bad thing
Stoner? No. Do I occasionally partake? Yes I do when I'm nauseated and/or have a raging migraine you bet I do. So what's your point? Stoners are worthless idiots that have no cred?

Excuse me but your utter and complete ignorance is showing.

Where do you suppose almost all of todays medicines came from smart guy?
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:11 PM
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28. Almost all of today's medicines came form stoners?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:14 PM
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:18 PM
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34. My guess is too much alcohol..
Which BTW is extremely toxic to humans, and yes I can back that up with hard data.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:21 PM
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35. I don't drink either. Not all humans self medicate you know. Its not an "either/or".
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:28 PM
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41. Exactly my guess too
Drinking can turn people into such nasty and angry people. Not to mention how high and mighty and superior they imagine themselves to be as compared to anyone that uses marijuana.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:31 PM
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46. Let me try this again: I don't drink or smoke pot. And no I don't think I'm better than stoners,
just less lazy.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:35 PM
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48. Judge-mental little thing aren't you
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:36 PM
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50. Yes I am.
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 02:48 PM by JBoris
I can admit it. Can you?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:22 PM
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:31 PM
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45. Awww did I piss you off?
:rofl:

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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:32 PM
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47. Lol. No but if imagining you did makes you feel better, have at it.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:37 PM
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52. You were funny for a while but I'm bored with you now.
No challenge. Been there done that a gazillion times, it gets old.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:46 PM
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:00 PM
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57. Well imagine what it's like for poor me standing in my mental giant shoes
and dealing with the likes of you? :rofl:

You're hardly the first uninformed person to spew garbage here and you're hardly unique cuz you certainly won't be the last. No intelligent and honest debate = no challenge. So why bother?

You didn't jump in here to possibly try educating yourself or learn anything you just want to harass and fling crap. Apes n monkeys love doing that too but at least they're honest about it.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:13 PM
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65. You want some information to help you look past your ego?
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 03:15 PM by JBoris
Have you ever considered that I have personally been effected by a stoner's lack of judgment?

Have you ever considered that you and your pot advertising-rings gives stupid kids excuses to smoke something that makes them dumber and even more dangerous?

Like my late fiance and her stupid stoned brother who didn't notice a traffic light. How his dumb ass lived and she died. How he still sits around, a free man, smoking that shit that helped to kill her sister. Her death won't be added to any stats. Just a traffic accident.

When I used to tell her to stay away from her brother, that his stupidity and drug addiction were dangerous, she would quote the same NORML propaganda on this page.

So how about you keep your snark to yourself this time.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:32 PM
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68. There now I knew there was a reason for your anger. Thank You.
I'm really and truly sorry about all the heartache and loss you've had to go through. Really I am :hug:

Now we're getting somewhere. We are not your enemies and now that I understand your experiences a bit more we can make some productive head way. I know you hurt and perhaps it feels like it will always hurt as much as it does now but believe me when I tell you the pain will eventually subside, it'll never go away but it will ease up.

One of the best ways to help yourself through this is to truly educate yourself between the realities and the myths about marijuana. Ask questions and question everything you think you know about pot. It's ok if you're too angry right now but please I urge you to use your own common sense and think for yourself.
Know what... you're alright after all.
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:02 PM
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60. Please go back to your basement. You offer nothing but snark.
And pretty obviously uninformed snark at that.
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The Midway Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:00 PM
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58. I'd rather be stoned than stupid. n/t
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:09 PM
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26. Lighting a dead weed on fire and sucking the smoke into your lungs is good for you?
I don't think in haling ANY smoke is good for you at all.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:15 PM
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32. That's true of any burning plant matter, but it also ignores vaporizers and edibles.
Still doesn't mean the compounds in Cannabis are toxic.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:27 PM
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39. not all smoke is the same, or contains the same particles, or has the same effects.
marijuana is an anti-imflammatory and a bronchial dilator, and for that reason it used to be prescribed to asthmatics.

http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20030918/marijuana-smoking-doesnt-kill

It's been feared that marijuana smoke, like tobacco smoke, causes cancer and heart disease. The evidence argues otherwise, writes Stephen Sidney, MD, associate director for research for Kaiser Permanente, Oakland, Calif., in the Sept 20 issue of The British Medical Journal.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:50 PM
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71. They should have weed on the sidelines at NFL games
Instead of oxygen. Guy runs back an interception 90 yards, needs to rest up...hey, just spark up a bowl, and he'll be as fresh as a daisy.
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:04 PM
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61. Try reading the research mentioned above.
It may not be good for you, but it doesn't appear to be that bad for you.

Of course, you also think suspicionless, unwarranted drug testing of private sector employees is cool. Drink up.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:48 PM
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70. When you agree to let them do it, it IS cool.
That was my main point all along, but hey, whatever. Make up shit as you go along.

This time, however, I'll defer to the experts. Sucking smoke in your lungs is not only awesome and cool,
but it has definite health benefits. It HAS to...you said so.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 06:35 PM
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72. for some people it does have definite health benefits...
i'm a chronic pain patient with an autoimmune condition(ankylosing spondylitis) that causes me to have great deal of inflammation(my sed rate has been as high as 97, but usually hovers in the lower 50's to mid 60's), and lung dysfunction(my ribs have fused to my spine in such a way that they do not flex, and therefore my chest cavity can't expand enough to allow my lungs to fully inflate).pot definitely helps me get through the day in a fairly normal fashion. my other main option would be to take large amounts of nsaids for very long periods of time(like the rest of my life), and there's no way i'm going back down that path- when i was in my 20's, a dr. had me taking 3 800mg tablets/day, and after a couple months i was having a lot of nasty side effects.
i don't live in a medical mj state, but my dr. knows about my use, and supports it entirely.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:55 PM
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20. and which ones are toxic?
just about everything in the universe is made up of chemicals- there's no reason to think that it makes something toxic to humans.

unless maybe you're intimidated or scared by science, due to a lack of actual knowledge...:shrug:
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:47 PM
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16. It's a sweet n juicy and beautiful shot
of a marijuana bud that someone photoshopped Obamas face into.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:29 PM
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9. Coincidence with what?
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:11 PM
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29. I don't know what it is . . .
but it calls to me.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:18 PM
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33. I love anything with him on there.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:29 PM
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42. I read your post and then checked to see if you were Jackeens
lolol.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:36 PM
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49. First of all I thought it looked like george bush
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:24 PM
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67. Ha-ha. I was confused too. When I first glanced at it, it reminded me of SwampThing
It seems to have the same haunched shoulder and craggly green coloring of the plant/man who got busy with Adrienne Barbeau.

 

Or maybe it's a cannibus bud.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:37 PM
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51. post in two places ...
in one, say it's the picture of George W. Bush ... look at it being the "hand of God" ...

In another, say it's Obama ... then listen to all the calls of how it's Satan's work ...
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:01 PM
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59. Nice bud!
:smoke:
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