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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:13 AM
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US performing its familiar role of propping up a dictator - Belfast Telegraph
Just a little more money, more troops, more time, and the Afghans will flinging roses at their "liberators". Just like they did in Saigon in 1975.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/ro...

The March of Folly was Barbara Tuchman's title for her book on governments from Troy to Vietnam-era America that followed policies contrary to their own interests. And well may we remember the Vietnam bit. As Patrick Bury, a veteran British soldier of our current Afghan adventure, pointed out yesterday, Vietnam is all too relevant.

Back in 1967, the Americans oversaw a "democratic" election in Vietnam which gave the presidency to the corrupt ex-General Nguyen Van Thieuman. In a fraudulent election which the Americans declared to be "generally fair" he got 38 per cent of the vote Thieu's opponents wouldn't run against him because the election was a farce.

In 1967, Washington needed the elections to give legitimacy to this revolting dictator and thus provide credibility to its own military occupation of Vietnam in the war against Communism. As in Vietnam where Saigon was a lonely kingdom of brutal power totally isolated from the rest of the country Karzai is going to rule over an equally tiny island of corruption, protected by US mercenaries while the Americans perform their familiar role of propping up a dictator.

As ex-Lieutenant Bury sagely points out, the Afghan war is "campaigning on a par with the 19th-century British colonial army trying to manage the unwinnable... What was or is the strategy behind these long, bloody conflicts?" Well, in 1967, it was the possible communisation of Laos, Cambodia and Thailand. Now it is Pashtunistan, Baluchistan, Waziristan. For us, the vast ignorant "plebes", it's supposed to stop the Taliban/al-Qa'ida beasts from attacking our looming towers all over again, albeit that the 2001 murderers in question largely hailed from that friendly, moderate, brutal, oligarchical monarchical dictatorship called Saudi Arabia where thank the good gods they don't hold elections.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:23 AM
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1. K&R
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:31 AM
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2. K&R
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:38 AM
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3. K&R
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:41 AM
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4. K&R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:41 AM
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5. We might as well leave. America lost its last shred of credibility
to this Afghan election. We've taught a whole new generation of Afghans we can't be trusted.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:12 PM
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7. ....
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:02 PM
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8. I was surprised the other day to read that Fisk is an extremist.
Looks like having history in hand makes you fringe these days.

:hi:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:28 PM
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9. Being anti-war is now considered "extremist" and "fringe" by the born-again hawks here.
And, mentioning Vietnam and Afghanistan in the same breath is downright (EEK!) RADICAL!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:41 PM
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11. The netroots diss radicals?
Seems like a bad plan to me. :)
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 11:44 AM
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6. k/r
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:30 PM
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10. we will never learn from history
where is Obama's mind? he stands behind this power-grabbing oil guy?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:41 PM
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12. k&r ....war is a major profit industry....must continue
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