The MSM (and DUers too) are making too much out of last night's elections.

[ddeclue]

Two governors and one Representative race don't make anything like a "trend".

These are three isolated data points - they aren't a "referendum" on anything and even among these three they split with one of them going to us.

There's nothing "national" going on here - it's all local.

Everybody needs to calm down at LEAST until the 2010 elections next year. Every house seat and one third of Senate seats along with a sizeable number of governors will be up for election then. THEN we can start talking about "referendums".

[malaise]

1. Rethugs didnt win one House seat

I'll take that.

CSpan callers are way more interesting than anything on CNN or GEM$NBC

[ShortnFiery]

2. No they're not. We now need our Progressive Democrats in the House grow as spine

and defeat this bill that is turning out to be a WINDFALL for the Insurance Corporations.

If we keep going down the "moderate path" look forward to many MANY more GOP victories in the future.

If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for any DAMN thing. :grr:

p.s. IMNSHO Jim Moran would have WON VIRGINIA - but Terry McCullif split the vote with him and we were left with the dull and useless Creigh Deeds. A man who was by all rights a milque toast corporate-moderate shill. The DEMOCRATIC base in Virginia would have been energized - especially in the Northern Neck. Thank Terry McCullif and the other dumb-ass conservative democrats for this loss. :puke:

[ddeclue]

3. Yes they do but Corzine and Deeds would have still lost.

Their loss has NOTHING to do with what happened in Congress and everything to do with themselves.

[ShortnFiery]

5. It has to do with the corporate blue dog democrats f**king up Virginia's elections.

I'm so damn sick of them. I told my local democrats to "call me" when they come up with some true progressives. What we have now are Corporate Democrats = GOP lite. I want nothing to do with these ghouls.

[ddeclue]

6. That's different than "the dems need a spine".

Yes we need REAL Democrats instead of DLC'ers. I agree.

[ShortnFiery]

9. If this horrific health care bill passes with a mandate, the Democrats, both ...

moderate and progressive, will be left out in the cold for another 4 to 8 years.

Bank on that! However, those democrats who are incumbents and entrenched in power by their districts and pork-laden have nothing to worry about. They could care less - it's all a racket. :puke:

[AndyA]

4. Agree.

The Democrats--all of them--INCLUDING THE WHITE HOUSE--need to get off the fence and start pounding some ass. Blue Dogs have got to comply, and side with the party on health care. And it needs to pass and be enacted immediately, no slow roll out giving the GOP time to steal more seats back, then prevent health care from being implemented when they get the majority again.

The Democrats in Congress need to stop picking their noses and start kicking some ass! If they don't, they'll be looking for jobs next year. The time to act is now, no more excuses!

[ShortnFiery]

7. That includes Saints Grayson and Weiner to get on board. This is CRIMINAL.

If this bill passes, it will be a travesty for the average working American.

It don't mean squat to have insurance OFFERED when you can't afford the premiums.

STOP the Moderate Corporate Whores!

[joeycola]

12. The "affordable" mantra has always been suspect. Now we know for sure.

[AllentownJake]

8. Democrat's got their ass kicked in the suburbs where I'm from

They had been making gains for 6 years. Yesterday was a sweep for muncipal elections outside of the City of Allentown.

[ShortnFiery]

10. Yes, us too in VA. We had a smattering of democrats - now everything from local through

state legislature for our family is 100% GOP.

There's no fire in the belly of our democrats. They are frightened of the big corporations. All our representatives seemingly serve CORPORATE Masters. :(

[TreasonousBastard]

11. Let 'em yell for a few days, won't make any difference...

and none of them know how it works in Joisey, or how the Democrats have an iron lock on the cities and a few counties while the Republicans own the rest.

This is the state that elected Christie Whitman because of 3 cents on a roll of toilet paper.

[scentopine]

13. LOL! Really, let's wait at least until 2013...

nonsense. This is significant. I have warned repeatedly that when Rahm Emenauel set the direction to abandon the 50 states strategy he gave a great big fuck you to grass roots support. Instead of pushing forward with the mandate we gave Obama, Obama has been trying to keep the "neo-dems" (i.e. former republican voters who were pissed off at Bush) happy with all this bi-partisan bullshit. Democratic leadership abandoned the rank and file and spread their legs like $2 whores to corporations and republicans. As soon as a media friendly republican candidate surfaces, those neo-dems will leave Obama standing at the altar in 2012.

Rahm held his nose while hard core democrats worked our asses off getting him elected. As soon as he took office, the door was slammed shut. Reid, Peolsi, Obama, Emanuel are absolutely the wrong kind of spineless leaders to stop the hard right direction we are moving in. Sure Obama is better than Bush, but we are still moving rightward, just not at a neck snapping pace. These soaring rhetorical speeches are killing us.

Watch 2010 as pissed off rank and file stop sending cash and labor to work for democrats. No change? No cash. And then there will be a lot of pom-poms saying we need to wait until 2012.

When we hit 2012 with little to show for our efforts to elect and maintain a democratic majority, we'll all sit around on our asses making excuses about republican lies and on and on. Our leadership is failing us in so many ways. The problem isn't with republicans, the problem is with democrats.

Many of us worked hard for dems, no more. Republicans will eventually gain control and all those mushy "centrists" apologists and excuse makers will have accomplished next to nothing for all their investment in republican love making. Meanwhile we are getting fucked.

The only bright side is that Obama is the best republican president we can hope for and things would be worse with McCain.