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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:33 AM
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Universal Health Care For All! Why do we settle for less?
Just do it!
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:37 AM
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1. It doesn't help
when your President settles for less before the debate even begins.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:38 AM
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2. Yea that sucks.
Edited on Wed Nov-04-09 01:39 AM by SammyWinstonJack
x( I want my vote back!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:15 AM
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9. Cause We're Seeing Elected Representatives Settle For Even Less
Damn President Obama for returning the power to right laws to the legislative where the Constitution intended...not running a unitary executive.

There weren't and still aren't the votes for anything resembling a single payer in either the House or Senate...getting a government public option is tough enough sledding.

Got a problem? Take it up with the 535 elected representatives in both Houses who have the ultimate votes.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:23 AM
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11. "There weren't and still aren't the votes for anything resembling a single payer in either
the House or Senate...getting a government public option is tough enough sledding."

Then why the HELL did he even bother making an attempt at health care reform, especially at he start of his first term?

At least if he had left single payer on the table, we could have worked our way down from there and at least had a strong, actually viable, public option instead of the watered down disgrace we are left with. When you start with a compromised position, you immediately set yourself up for failure.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:41 AM
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3. Hey, it was never his issue to begin with. But it does suck.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:46 AM
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4. Yea I know.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:46 AM
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5. If by HE you mean Obama
then yes it was his issue to begin with. If he didn't want to tackle one of the greatest long standing national crises i.e health care (a nearly century long crises by the way) by hitting the ground running and pulling out all the stops including keeping single payer on thee table, than he should have kept his trap shut. Now we're probably gonna get stuck with a billion dollar porker boon for the insurance industry while the American people have to wait another 10-20 years for a swing at real reform.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 01:48 AM
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6. So he said what he thought he needed to say to get elected? He sucks.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:05 AM
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7. I meant it wasn't a priority to him. I don't really think it was. Many folks in the WH were shocked
that he led with this issue. He wasn't my favorite primary candidate because I felt he was weak on heatlh care. I guess I feel he still is. If he were committed to this issue, we would have a solid public option that covers everyone at the very least and he has never even asked for that. And he took single payer off the table immediately nad negotiated what appears to be a sweetheart deal with big pharma.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:13 AM
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8. Universal Health Care will not pass the house and the Senate.
That is why we settle for less.

The question remains, what will you do to the Democrats, House, and Senate if they don't give you universal health care? Will you remove them from power with your vote and see Republicans brought back in control? The only way to punish a political party that refuses to do the bidding of citizens is remove them from power.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 02:15 AM
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10. "We" is a funny word when "they" decide for "us"
We settle because we have to because we send bought-n-paid-for idiots to Congress. They decide for us, and frankly, they don't give a shit about us.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:20 AM
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12. We are a Representative Democratic Republic.
They are our representatives elected to make these decisions.
So they is us.
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