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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:14 PM
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Owens (D) winning 51%-44% with 34% reporting...
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 10:25 PM by usregimechange
:kick:

Need some good news tonight...

updating based on % reporting.
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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:15 PM
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1. Who's Owens? nt
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:16 PM
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8. NY, 23rd district
endorsed by Scozzafava, the Republican candidate, who dropped out of the race.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:17 PM
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11. US congressional seat, map here:
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 10:17 PM by usregimechange
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:16 PM
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9. The Dem. He'd be the first in more than 130 years. (NT)
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:21 PM
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16. Dem represented the district until 1993.
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:31 PM
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27. Bzzzzztt
The 23rd used to be in NYC. 1993 is when it got moved Upstate.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:43 PM
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43. So why are you calling it the 23rd?
What was that area before? Where is the link?
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:52 PM
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49. Uhhh I was in Germany in 1993 so they didn't ask me how
I felt about them changing the numbers around ;)

Link? Your own link clearly shows it.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:43 AM
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92. But you felt the need to claim what the district # was
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:35 PM
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33. Wrong again - read the link provided in the other post where you claimed this
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:42 PM
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41. Read it and replied.
You didn't tell the truth
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:51 PM
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46. Obviously you are here to stir up shit. You can't argue with facts - be gone.
Don't bother to reply, you've been ignored.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:44 AM
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93. Ignored by anonymous electrons on the internet
I feel so bad
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:15 PM
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61. The non-crazy guy
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:15 PM
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2. source?
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:16 PM
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6. Here
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:16 PM
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7. Here
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:15 PM
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3. That would be the best news actually. The teabaggers would go down in flames and the 'pubes will be
furious with them for fucking it up for Scozzafava.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:15 PM
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4. Same with 27% reporting
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:16 PM
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5. From 51.5 - 43.2 .. now at 50.6 - 44.4
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:17 PM
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10. If I had to choose any of the 3 big ones tonight,
I would choose a Dem for this race.

Christie will screw up as will Bob McDonnell.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:18 PM
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12. So if Owens wins is the LOL "liberal" media going to say that
Moderate Repukes do better than pitchforkers endorsed by the Nanook Nazi?
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:21 PM
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15. A democrat hasn't won in this district since the Civil War. We know a 'pube won't be winning.
All we need is this asshole to go down in flames.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:22 PM
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18. Did the Civil War end in 1993?
Dems represented the district until 1993. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York%27s_23rd_congress...
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:25 PM
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21. Wrong. Read this
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:31 PM
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28. Thanks for the link
Very interesting
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:41 PM
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39. Interesting link
But it is wrong to say the NY 23 has been Republican since the Civil War. Some parts have and some parts haven't.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:14 PM
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60. no - look at the cities/ counties involved
NY's districts were completed renumbered over the years. Manhattan is not north of the Adirondacks!

19131919
Parts of Manhattan
19191969
Parts of The Bronx
19691971
Parts of The Bronx, Manhattan
19711973
Parts of The Bronx
19731983
Parts of The Bronx, Westchester
19831993
All of Albany, Schenectady
Parts of Montgomery, Rensselaer
19932003
All of Chenango, Madison, Oneida, Otsego
Parts of Broome, Delaware, Herkimer, Montgomery, Schoharie
2003present
All of Clinton, Franklin, Hamilton, Jefferson, Lewis, Madison, Oswego, St. Lawrence
Parts of Essex, Fulton, Oneida

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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 03:45 AM
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94. So why did you call it the 23rd?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 09:00 PM
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95. BECAUSE THAT IS THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT NUMBER!
You're clearly just hear to waste people's time. You're the one making the assumption that a congressional district number is tied to geographic location, when that's not the case. The number of house seats and the geography of districts in a state changes according to population and politics. Do you think they should just use new numbers for new districts and retire the old numbers?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:18 PM
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68. I think I can clear this up for you
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 11:21 PM by mdmc
actually Muttocracy got the proper info above..


the land that is now NYSCD23 has not been held by a dem in my life.. or in the last 100 years.
But back when I lived in NYSCD20 (NOW nyscd22) the 23rd was down in the city.. and held by a dem..
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:18 PM
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13. I need this race and I need "NO" on overturning gay marriage in Maine!!! n/t
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:20 PM
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14. same with 29% reporting!
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:21 PM
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17. Now 33% in - Owens still ahead 51% - 44%
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:22 PM
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19. This would be a big symbolic win. Been a puke seat forever.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:27 PM
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23. Your right, and we would need to scream it to the press
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:23 PM
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20. Any read on which districts have reported?
Are the areas that trend to the Dem coming in early or what?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:26 PM
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22. I doubt anyone can access more local numbers or would know how to interpret
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:28 PM
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24. I suppose if there is a State of New York elections site, you could
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 10:28 PM by ProudToBeBlueInRhody
But someone would have to tell us which towns trend to the Democrats and which to the conservatives. I suspect that would be hard in a Repug district.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:29 PM
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25. We had a local DUer in the district here earlier, lets hope they stop by
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:29 PM
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26. Race Tightening
49.7-45.2 with 39%
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:33 PM
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29. Yep, 50-45. 5% lead but getting tight
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:34 PM
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30. OMG have you guys SEEN Hoffman TALK? SERIOUSLY BOGGLES THE MIND
THAT ANYBODY WOULD VOTE FOR THAT GOON!
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:38 PM
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37. I can only imagine
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:35 PM
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31. Further tightening
49.1 to 45.5 at 47%
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:37 PM
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34. rounding to 49-46%...
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:38 PM
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36. 54% in still getting closer... 49-46
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LatteLibertine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:35 PM
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32. This would be a nice win
I hope the current trend continues.

Too bad VA got a Regent educated Republican. Ugh :(
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:38 PM
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35. Tightening continues
48.8 - 45.9 at 54%. We need a big enough win to avoid a recount. Probably won't know the winner for a weeks.
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:41 PM
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40. Lead holding steady at 62%
49.3 - 45.5
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:42 PM
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42. Sorry, his lead went from 48.8 to 49.3 so still the same if rounding but a bit better
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:41 PM
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38. 62% in Owens lead expands a bit
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:45 PM
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45. At 63%
Lead holding steady at 49.3 - 45.4
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:44 PM
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44. 63% in - Owens up 49% - 46%
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:51 PM
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48. 64% in
Lead holding steady at 49.3 - 45.5. Up by ~ 3650 votes.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:51 PM
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47. 64% in, 49.3%-45.5%, Owens continues to lead
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:53 PM
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50. 67% in 49.1-45.5, Owens slipped just a tad
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:00 PM
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52. 68% in
49.1 - 45.5
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:59 PM
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51. 68%, no change
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:04 PM
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53. 69%, Owens lead expands a bit, 49.2-45.4, numbers coming in slowly
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:06 PM
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54. Owens lead holds, 71% in, 49.1-45.2
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 11:06 PM by usregimechange
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:07 PM
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55. 71% in, and Owens holds a 4% lead!
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:08 PM
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56. Yeah, we could use the good news.
The bad news is that Palin won in her effort to destroy moderate Republicans. She will take it as a victory no matter what happens.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:09 PM
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57. Lets hope she keeps up the good work
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:10 PM
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58. It's mostly Essex, Fulton, Hamilton, and Lewis Counties left
thoughts on those anyone?

I'm guessing Essex Dem, Fulton and Hamilton small population, Lewis mixed?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:17 PM
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66. Where are you getting the county break down?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:25 PM
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73. it's on the North Country news site - totals lagging behind NYT but has counties
Just got a big update I haven't processed mentally yet - but the holes are in 4 counties, two of which have small populations, so there's not many votes to be gained there. Looking good I think...

http://northcountrynow.com/ad_pages/results.htm
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mile18blister Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:14 PM
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59. This is why we always need to field a candidate for every race.
Even if it's a long shot. Before the wingnut jumped in we didn't have a prayer. Now I'm hitting refresh with crossed fingers...
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:15 PM
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62. and that's a very good lesson to take from this - true in local elections too! nt
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:15 PM
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63. I need to get up too early for this shit.
Why does it have to be this close?
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:21 PM
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69. Tell me about it. I vowed not to go to bed until the Franken-Coleman race was decided here in MN
I propped my eyes open as long as I could, but I didn't make it to July...
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:26 PM
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74. Lol
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:16 PM
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64. 74% in and Owens lead is steady, guys it is getting difficult for Hoffman to make it up
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:17 PM
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67. Am I blue? Yes, I'm blue.
Go, Owens.
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cravermi Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:16 PM
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65. With 74% reporting, Owens still leading
74% reporting N.Y. District 23

Bill Owens Dem. 53,562 49.1%
Doug Hoffman Con. 49,661 45.5
Dede Scozzafava Rep. 5,949 5.4
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:22 PM
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71. 76% in and lead holds, Owens will win!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:21 PM
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70. Thank all of you guys for your updates....
I recheck this thread every few minutes.
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:24 PM
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72. Good news so far
I'd love to see Owens take it by the number of votes that go to the withdrawn republican.

Really rub it in their faces.
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:38 PM
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78. 84% in
49.2 - 45.5, up by 4250 votes
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:30 PM
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75. Guys, Hoffman would have to carry something like 80% of the remaining vote to pick up the 4k needed
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:34 PM
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76. 78% in, and Owens' lead remains steady

78% reporting N.Y. District 23
N.Y. District 23 Candidate Party Votes Pct.
Bill Owens Dem. 54,736 49.0%
Doug Hoffman Con. 51,001 45.6
Dede Scozzafava Rep. 6,061 5.4
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:37 PM
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77. 84% in on NYT - still going Dem! nt
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:40 PM
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79. Obama trend continues? MSM, where are you?
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 11:40 PM by usregimechange
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:46 PM
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81. 85% in
49.0 - 45.4, lead of about 4670. 11K absentees to be counted up through 11-16 as long as they're postmarked by today. He'd have to get about 3 of 4 to make up the difference.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:46 PM
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80. 85%

N.Y. District 23 Candidate Party Votes Pct.
Bill Owens Dem. 58,787 49.0%
Doug Hoffman Con. 54,518 45.4
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:47 PM
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82. holding with 86% of precincts... nt
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:54 PM
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83. nail-biting
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:55 PM
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85. 4386+ lead can't be made up by Hoffman, imo
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:00 AM
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86. I agree - he'd need a HUGE percentage of the votes left. nt
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:55 PM
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84. I can't wait to see the back biting from the Hoffman-Palin campaign
It'll go down like this:
"I knew we shouldn't have listened to her!"
"How dare you! Sarah is the only reason why we were in this to begin with! All hail Palin!"
"Why did you go on TV and say Glenn Beck was your mentor?!"
"Who invited Dick Armey?"
"The teabaggers were right! Schozza backballed us! (weird ironic statement, so yeah)"
"I knew we shouldn't have invited those weird folks! They made us look bad!"
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:03 AM
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87. creeksneakers had some old election data in another thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

basically a mix of districts left - don't think much will change from here on.
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:11 AM
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88. And may this be a harbinger of things to come here in MN-6, home of Michele Bachmann
For now, though, I just have to be content knowing that she won't be getting a new playmate tonight to join her in the Wackjob Caucus sandbox.

:crazy:
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:12 AM
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89. Owen's wins Hoffman has conceded!
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:13 AM
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90. woo hoo! nt
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-04-09 12:14 AM
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91. And to all a good night.
Thank you for starting this thread and keeping it updated.
:toast:
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