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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:10 PM Original message |
11 year old gives birth on wedding day |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. Kill me now |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. pretty common occurance throughout a large part of the world |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Common doesn't make it right |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Human sacrifice is still practiced. I just heard about an 11 year old Bulgarian girl who gave birth |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
91. Absolutely correct Orrex!!!! |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
94. fuckin a. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. depends on what your definition of right is, got to remember cultural mores change across the planet |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. not right throwing acid in young afghan girls face because they want an education |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. We might not be able to change it... |
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tmyers09 (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. But rational to one and rational to another is not the same. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. all those examples you give, we KNOW it is NOT right. and this is not right. nt |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I'm talking specifically about child molestation... |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #23 |
82. I wonder if the cultural relativists would feel differently if it were a boy? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. dancing boys in afghanistan. culturally accept. sex slave. hooyah. nt |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:34 AM Response to Reply #18 |
92. Health problems for children giving birth are NOT OPINION |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #92 |
101. african male think fucking a virgin will cure them of aids. do we shrug shoulders and say oh well. |
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tmyers09 (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. This is true. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. dictate terms? change? to be humane is to at the very least, recognize a wrong |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. thing is that what you may think is a wrong, others across the globe may not |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. nope. they have their validation throwing acid in a girls face because she wants to read |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. what i am saying is that what you believe is wrong when seen through the eyes of others |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. No, it is not subjective. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. yeah i guess your culture is so much better and enlightened |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. and cclever that we are .... seeing you are on du and are aware, we say that is wrong too. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. simply many people in the world will condem your culture and you as a member |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. a culture of men telling girls and woman what they will do. i am sure the girls and women KNOW |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. lol i guess you dont realise that there are women in other cultures who think your the one whos wro |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. i understand what you are saying. i understood the 1st, 2nd and 3rd time. this is wrong |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. yeah because all the women in other cultures are all weak and to dumb to make choices for themselves |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. right... cause the women are empowered and make their own choices. jfc. nt |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Probuably some of these women you put down are more empowered than you will ever be |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #58 |
85. Deleted message |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. really, she had just turned 10 when she got preg. why article tried to cushion with 11 |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. I stand corrected, the jack ass who is jacking off is thinking of 10 year olds |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #89 |
102. "are sick sob's... PERIOD". no really, the girls are empowered, not doninated by male, they WANT to |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #102 |
113. Mental capabilities at age 10 compared to age 18 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 07:20 AM Response to Reply #34 |
74. it's not merely subjective in the end. Cultural practices that |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
96. The UN recognizes wrongs |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #96 |
103. yes... these men, grown men, adults do not stop at fuckin children. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
107. an adulting having sex with a 11yo and getting her pregnant is WRONG. Culture be DAMNED.. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Change has nothing to do with right or wrong. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:07 PM Original message |
thing is to someone in the US it is rape, and looks like bulgaria thinks the same |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
32. i. do. not. care. a 10 yr old being fucked by a 19 yr old is WRONG. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
39. I draw the line at child rape. Always will. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. just out of interest when does one stop being a child, not that im saying this girls isnt one |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. In a perfect world I would say universal standard of 18. |
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renate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
71. i think that's a very reasonable standard, as gross as that might be in some cases |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #42 |
93. deleted self delete |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. There is nothing right about a 10 year old being pregnant. |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
80. I didn't say we could change these monsters |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
81. You cannot POSSIBLY be defending |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. you're defending it! ... YES. 3 or 4 men defending fuckin a 10 yr old. this is our world. nt |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. You don't even want to know what I'm thinking. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. i am right there with you.... at the very least. nt |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
77. The fact that our culture is one way does not necessarily the rest of the world should acree. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 07:48 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. 10. and culturally it was rape... against the law. but hey, another guy to defend the "culture". |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Talk to a physician about the girl's health |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Not this young. |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Not even close |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Good Lord, that's a freakish story. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. female genital mutilation is a pretty common practice too |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. and the relevance to the age of consent in other cultures and traditions is what.. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. are you GUYS saying, if you cant stop it, change it, can NOT say it is wrong? |
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tmyers09 (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Nobody said that, nobody made that an argument. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. do you really think that 10 yr old girl was into being fucked by a 19 yr old man? nt |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #49 |
59. how so you know either way, we dont, obviously biologically she was capable |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. nope, you can say its wrong, campaign to stop it, even vote to have troops enforce it |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. slavery was not a wrong. selling girls is not a wrong. killling gays is not wrong. whatever dude |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
95. There is work being done to educate people out of this |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:07 AM Response to Reply #2 |
61. How backwards do you think Bulgaria is? It's part of the EU! |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. lol how backward do you think some parts of the United states are |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
106. So? If it's wrong it's wrong. I don't care what goddamn culture it is. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
109. Bullshit. n/t |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. She got pregnant when she was 10? What. the. fuck. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. so really, she wasnt even 11. just turned 10 when got preg. well... i have heard guys say |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Anyone who says that is probably a pedophile... |
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tmyers09 (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Maybe so, but in different cultures, adulthood begins at different times. |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #16 |
100. Absolutly correct |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. is it canada that has close in laws, im not sure of the details but i think a 12 year old can have |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
7. Dimitrov now faces up to six years in jail for having sex with a minor. |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. ... |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
17. I have no words. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
30. She thinks her baby is a "new toy." What does that tell you? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. she is a kid? ya. nt |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Sad. Sad for her. Sad for her child. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
35. So very sad. That poor girl, and that poor baby. |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
43. WTF? |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
48. Congratulations. This place is like reading the racks at a grocery store. eom |
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951-Riverside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
51. Jeliazko Dimitrov should be castrated |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. 10. she wasnt even 11 when she had the baby. nt |
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tmyers09 (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Or maybe it is normalized in another culture? |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #51 |
97. YES! These men are disgusting! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
60. Is that legal? |
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tmyers09 (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
63. Well, not a whole lot that can be done about this now, so |
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Unrepentant Fenian (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
64. NO !!! Not another thread about the Palin family.... |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
65. wonder if the wedding is still on, good good luck to all the family involved |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
66. Nature created this situation |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Considering he might be facing six years in prison for having |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 01:34 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Thanks - so all that tripe abut cultural "sensitivity" is just that? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 01:52 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. yeah but does the law reflect the values of all the cultures within a country |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 07:36 AM Response to Reply #69 |
76. are you the one that said all those months ago. once girls reach puberty they are free game |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #69 |
108. i just don't get it... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #69 |
110. If their values are evil and sick then fuck their values. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 07:36 AM Response to Reply #68 |
75. yes. it is a couple men that are not seeing much wrong fuckin a 10 yr old kid. |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #68 |
98. Cultural Relativity is a cover for abuse of women and children |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
70. A new toy now? Holy crap! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 07:06 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Makes me worry about that baby |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 06:51 AM Response to Original message |
72. This is shocking |
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lanlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
90. What, Bulgaria has no laws against child rape? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:36 AM Response to Reply #90 |
114. From the linked article: |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
99. Words fail me. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
104. Thats sad. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. 10 yrs old. and more sad, we have 3 or 4 men on du defending the fucking of a 10 yr old. nt |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #105 |
111. They are fair game when they hit puberty, dontcha know? *SARCASM* |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. vomit is right. adults that fuck kids.... big thumbs up..... no wonder child sex slavery |
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