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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:37 PM
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We can't ask taxpayers to pay for abortions, but we can ask them to pay for prayer therapy?

Most folks don't know about this tiny little provision in the health care bill, so I figured I would write up a diary about it. Senator Hatch (R-Utah) snuck this provision in but it has some big name supporters behind it, namely Senator John Kerry and the late Edward Kennedy.

The measure would put Christian Science prayer treatments -- which substitute for or supplement medical treatments -- on the same footing as clinical medicine. While not mentioning the church by name, it would prohibit discrimination against "religious and spiritual healthcare."

Read on below the fold.

DruidQueen's diary :: :: Christian Scientists believe their prayer therapy works as an alternative to modern medicine. Being a Wiccan who performs rituals to invoke the power of the universe to help heal and protect myself and those I love, I'm not one to mock another religion's belief. In fact, Christian Science prayer therapy isn't that far a stretch from what I do.

The difference is that I would never think to ask my health insurance company or my government to pay for the cost of my candles, incense, and ritual items like brooms, wands, sea salt, crystals, or silver-cast pentacles. But thanks to the vague language of this provision, what's to stop Wiccans from demanding reimbursement for our rituals used to heal? What's to stop Scientologists from demanding that the very expensive materials they have to buy from their "church" are covered the government? I mean heck, at least I can get candles for fifty cents. Scientologists pay hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for their materials, and into the thousands for "auditing" (their replacement for psychiatry). Sarah Palin's witch doctor, covered by Aetna? How much do you think Blue Cross Blue Shield will have to bust out for exorcising demons from your kid?

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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/11/3/800049/-We-cant-ask-taxpayers-to-pay-for-abortions,-but-we-can-ask-them-to-pay-for-prayer-therapy-WTF
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:39 PM
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1. One step backward.
:grr:
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:41 PM
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3. Kennedy and Kerry?
I thought they were intelligent/.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:42 PM
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4. LOL.
:shrug:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:45 PM
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6. I see you are Canadian. Lucky you!
:evilgrin:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:40 PM
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2. Absoutely OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!
If they want THEIR form of medical care covered...then cover EVERY form of medical care!!!!

:mad:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:05 PM
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15. Good enough for them, good enough for us! WTF?
:grr:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:44 PM
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5. we can ask taxpayers to pay for killing people in other countries
that doesn't seem to bother people.... how hypocritical.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:48 PM
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9. The next time I see a 'Proud to be American' bumper sticker, I swear I won't be responsible for my
reaction! :grr:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:50 PM
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11. I feel the same way, but then I feel sorry for those
who are so stupid they'd claim to be proud... of what?!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:56 PM
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12. You know that is my exact reaction. Proud of what? I don't get it?
Maybe I am the freak? :shrug:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:10 PM
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16. My Father, ex military, reacted to a car with three flags flying from it
he was disgusted. He stated the flag is being used politically by the very people who don't even know their country. He was pissed.... I chuckled after he stated that he wanted to stick the American flag right up the guys ass.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:18 PM
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18. +1
For your Father! :patriot:
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:47 PM
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7. Sure. From the same people who don't want THEIR forum for political speech taxed.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:47 PM
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8. Judas H. Priest! America is nothing but mounds of bullshit. nt
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:57 PM
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13. +1 nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:59 PM
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21. +1
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 06:50 PM
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10. Well, when did prayer ever end the life of
an unformed little gob of tissue?
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:00 PM
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14. viagra? Is that
paid for? I would think that the fundies would believe that if God wanted it flacid, so be it. Personally, the only people to have scripts for viagra are women...then they can choose who gets to take it.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:16 PM
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17. Are you ok paying for prayer therapy then?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:52 PM
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19. REC x10,000!..thank you!
I can just hear the excuses for this..

5, 4, 3, 2, 1............
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 07:55 PM
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20. +1 nt
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