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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:09 PM
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Is California Planning Sirhan 'Execution'? (NOT Satire)
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/11/02/us/AP-US-Sirhan-Transfer.html?scp=2&sq=sirhan&st=cse

Robert F. Kennedy's Killer Is Moved to New Site

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: November 2, 2009

Filed at 8:07 p.m. ET

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- An attorney for the man who assassinated Robert F. Kennedy said Monday his client was transferred from a prison that houses high-risk offenders to a new facility where his life could be in danger.

Attorney William F. Pepper said Sirhan Sirhan opposed the move from the California state prison in Corcoran, which houses high-risk prisoners such as Charles Manson, to Pleasant Valley State Prison in Coalinga.

''Our main concern is for his safety,'' said Laurie Dusek, an associate of Pepper. ''We are not sure that Pleasant Valley has the ability to protect him. He is a target.''


Combine the facts that his attorneys were not notified about the move by the prison but rather by his brother and all the recent evidence supporting the existence of a second gunman with the fact that this case is moving closer to seeing the inside of a courtroom (habeus proceeding) for the first time in 40 years (not to mention a Schwarzenegger Playboy interview years ago where he advocated Sirhan's execution), and one has to wonder why they would choose to grant a supposed "request" for the first time since 1968.

If anything happens to this man, it won't be an accident or coincidence (or suicide as he is a devout enough Christian not to have done so already).

It will be an execution, plain and simple, in order to keep the rest of the story hidden...

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:13 PM
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1. It will be an execution ...to keep the rest of the story hidden...
Then he had better get his side out in the public ASAP so he stops being a target.
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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:22 PM
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2. The irony is
that there is an incredible amount of information out there already, it just rarely appears where a lot of people see it. (including Discovery Channel documentary)

The real problem is that he has no memory of what went on, and as the article says, they are trying with the help of a psychologist to get him to remember.

I fear that he will never be allowed to progress to that point.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:57 PM
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5. If I were the psychologist, I'd avoid small planes.
Especially if something happens to Sirhan. Even if he doesn't regain his memory, I doubt anyone would believe he didn't tell his psychologist something.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:23 PM
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3. I saw that assasination live on televsion, and the gun Rosie Grier had was real
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 03:04 PM by still_one
and it was from sirhan sirhan.

What else would his attorney say? They have been trying to get him released everytime he is up for parole

He will be protected, there is no way they will let him associate with the other prisoners

As far as I am concerned he should never be released. He killed Robert Kennedy, who most likely would have won


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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:28 PM
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4. Except that more than 8 bullets are
entered into evidence. His gone only held 8, and as you saw, he couldn't have reloaded. Also, autopsy reports (and subsequent test in documentary verifies) that the fatal shot was fired no more than 1 1/2 inches behind Kennedy's ear. Sirhan was never that close.

Everyone saw HIM fire, but evidence suggests someone else also did...

I'm not arguing whether or not he belongs in jail, just that somebody else seemingly got away with murder, and whatever the truth is, it may die with him...
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:58 PM
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6. Did you mean his gun only held 6?
That seams to be the number I remember.
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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:24 PM
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9. It was a Johnson-Iver .22
that held eight rounds.

Not presently where I can produce link for you, but promise to follow-up.

Entered into evidence were 2 bullets recovered from Kennedy, 1 bullet each from the 5 other victims (all of whom survived) and 2 bullets described as "impacted with wood" (presumably from ceiling tiles) -- that's 9 bullets.

A very good book was published last year by two very reputable (if not entertaining) authors; http://www.anopenandshutcase.com/?page_id=3
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 04:29 PM
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14. Thanks
I knew the count added up to more bullets than the gun held - but memory failed me on how many could be in the gun.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:02 PM
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7. I won't argue your point either, I misunderstood,
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democraticinsurgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:15 PM
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8. Great documentary here
http://www.rfkmustdie.com/

RFK Must Die is a new investigative documentary by Shane O’Sullivan that presents compelling evidence that Sirhan did not act alone. Witnesses placed Sirhan several feet in front of Kennedy yet the fatal shot came from one inch behind. And even under hypnosis, Sirhan has never been able to remember the shooting. Leading psychiatrists believe he was a ‘Manchurian Candidate’, hypnotically programmed to kill Kennedy.

On the fortieth anniversary of the assassination, O’Sullivan goes beyond conspiracy theory to present convincing evidence that others were involved, raising the question: who really killed Bobby Kennedy?
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 04:37 PM
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15. + 1,000 The CIA fingered out the CIA operatives that day.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:30 PM
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10. Do most prison inmates in 2009 even know who Sirhan Sirhan is?
And even if they did, would they even recognize him? I certainly wouldn't.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:35 PM
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11. Here's how he looks now
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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 04:01 PM
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12. They would if they're paid to... nt
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 04:13 PM
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13. I read another version of this - He evidently ASKED to be transferred there,
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 04:14 PM by old mark
wanted to get out of the max he was in for so long. He is 65 years old, no longer happy around the tough boys in his former prison.
I think his lawyer is looking for publicity.

mark
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ThisThreadIsSatire Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 04:58 PM
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16. Hi Mark,
Not able to get into it now, but know that not to be true...

Please bear with me -- will follow up soon (hopefully tomorrow, and hopefully with info from attorney).

In the meantime, he wasn't hanging around with any 'tough boys' -- it was tighter security than that.

Hope you will read follow-up.
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