WTF is it with people..two incidents

[undergroundpanther]

First incident happened last week...My friend sent me a frantic text for help.I couldn't do much to help him I was stranded at home and I had the flu in bed. It turned out he was harassed by some fanatic fundies. He said these people were threatening him,threatening to kill him if he refused jesus etc. Than one of these jerks casually moved his jacket aside revealing a concealed weapon, a gun.This happened in my town. At a Starbucks!I hope these fucktards never come around again.

Later that same week another friend and I were walking down the road when some shit head fundie in an SUV took his hands off his steering wheel in moving traffic, to make a cross with his index fingers as he yelled at us "You satanists go to hell!!!"
I just sorta stood there.It was so weird I had no retort.

WTF is it with the fanatics.
They seem to be itching for some trouble,just looking for anything any excuse and they'll go off on someone. I tell you some people on religion behave like they are high out of their minds,for them religion is actually their drug of choice and anything in the environment that isn't just like they are,and is not an addicted to the same belief system somehow threatens them. They panic like addicts when they can't get a fix. it's scary I tell ya. I have been chased by christian fanatics with knives before,a few years ago when I lived in a different town.
I do not want a repeat experience of that. I hope someone contains these belligerent fanatics out here before someone gets hurt.

[Codeine]

1. I call bullshit, especially on the first incident. nt

[vadawg]

4. seems kinda delusional, i agree the first one sounds like a made for TV movie

not sure the points of this post whatsoever...

[bbinacan]

8. Agreed. n/t

[undergroundpanther]

40. not bullshit

Each incident I wrote about in my OP happened.I wanted to say what happened because it was disturbing.I don't know if the fanatics out where you are are threatening people or not.
But I think it is worth saying something about it here.

[XanaDUer]

78. I believe you.

Man, there are some stories I could post here...Kafkaesque as a description does not do them justice.

People are strange.

[bvar22]

51. I give undergroundpanther the benefit of the doubt.

Long time DU member with a pretty good track record of reasonable, logical posts.

There IS a significant number of wacko fundamentalist soldiers in Iraq who went there to literally "Kill for Jesus".
The Abortion Clinic Bombers literally "Kill for Jesus".
The wackos ARE out there....Lots of them.
Only a matter of time until you run across one having a bad day.

[Vickers]

2. Those are some....odd stories. n/t

[Skittles]

3. I've had religious folk doing the door-to-door thing

but I have to say they've always been unfailingly polite

[vadawg]

6. yup, seems that no matter how rude you get to them, they annoyinly just smile at you

even the craziest ones ive met just start to quote the bible to you. Seems fishier than billy the marlins kitchen this one..

[imdjh]

10. The Mormon boys called me an asshole once. After I slammed the door.

[Bluenorthwest]

23. Like Fred Phelps polite or just Hagee polite?

They travel around with signs that say "God Hates Fags". Unfailingly polite is not exactly what I would call the fundie crowd.

[Skittles]

24. I said religious, not necessariy batshit wacko

[truedelphi]

5. I thinkyou have a situation wherein young people went to Fundie religious

Services for years with mom and dad. Then upon graduating high school, they, like good little Christians everywhere, went over to serve in Iraq or Afghanistan, and kill themselves some Moslems for the betterment of The Christ.

And now they are home and they are itching to have the sort of authority that they had back in the war zone. Where every other night they had the thrill of knocking in someone's door, and screaming at everyone from the elderly granmas and granpas to the toddlers, to do as they were told.

Now they are HOME, and they have no where to cultivate those "job skills."

Can you even imagine what it would be like to be married to someone like this?

[Brickbat]

7. I object to your use of the term "fucktard."

As for the rest of it...yeeeeaaaahhh.

[cherokeeprogressive]

9. I rec'd ya back to 0, simply because this OP needs to be on The Greatest Page

if for no other reason than the creativity displayed here.

[vadawg]

13. roflmao, this post is worthy of an award on its own, wish there was one i could give you...

[Kievan Rus]

11. He should do what I do...just ignore them and pretend they're not even there

Fundies simply want to get a rise out of people. That's why I simply ignore them and act as if I'm not even aware of them.

If I see one bothering people while waiting for a bus in downtown Pittsburgh, I simply walk away and move to another bus stop on the same line. If I see them in a public place, I ignore them or if they're rather boisterous, turn around to avoid them.

[Codeine]

12. It's even easier in this case

since they weren't there. The OP is cloudcuckooland fantasy.

[vadawg]

15. id be wary of this as the OP states they carry guns and knives and threaten you with death if you

dont accept jesus......

[Gold Metal Flake]

19. The New Crusaders. Bringing it old skool!

[Gold Metal Flake]

14. I'd a totally opened up on then coffe shop guys!

I'd be like "Yehaaaah!" and drop kick the gun guy without standing up and they'd be like "whoah, please" and I'd be like "have some coffee" and just splash them in the face and all and they'd be like "sorry sorry" and the shop would like be clapping and shit.

That would be so cool!

[Codeine]

16. YEEAH! YEEAH! LOCK AND LOAD!

[dysfunctional press]

17. "took his hands off his steering wheel in moving traffic..."

so what? i do that for any number of reasons- from prepping & eating my sausage mcmuffin to rolling a joint- some things just take two hands for some people. besides- that's why cars have adjustable steering wheels- so that you can drive safely with your knees.

[Gold Metal Flake]

18. I can drive with my dick.

That's right. I'm not ashamed to say it. I've been hiding this skill for too long. Aw, it feels great to finally say it out loud! Also, I would totally open up on that guy in the van. I'd be all like throwing stars at his head, and he'd be all "ow, please, I can't see" and he'd crash into a car load of bankrobbers and the cops would be all "that was great, can you tech us?" and I'd like become a special agent cop guy and get an award from the mayor and shit.

That would be cool!

[vadawg]

20. lol i read that as "i drive like a dick" took me a few minutes to get it..

[Gold Metal Flake]

21. Well, both, really.

It's movements are not very precise. On cold days it's useless.

[Gold Metal Flake]

22. Oh, shit, I forgot!

"I guess they don't drink with you."

You know, cuz this is like another DUer's wierd/fake posts. Heh heh. yeah. Hm. Would have been funnier up-thread.

[Fenris]

25. Better a Christian gang than one of those murdering gangs!

[vadawg]

26. the murdering gangs wouldnt dare mess with the OP, sounds like the opening of an A team episode...

[PeaceNikki]

27. Hey... wtf is up, chuck?

:hi:

[Tigress DEM]

28. Well, because we don't have quality healthcare, those dudes don't realize they need help.

Sound about halfway batshit crazy :crazy: raised in a family that thinks taking 9 year olds to shoot semi-automatics is a family outing. Ya' know.

When anyone tells me to go to hell, I just say, "Why? You think you're going to get lonely and that I would care?" OR "Meet you there! Go on ahead. Get your regular room."

[vadawg]

29. not sure about the gun reference, a 9 year old shooting guns with his father isnt all that strange

:shrug:

[mackerel]

30. Tweakers the lot of them.

[PeaceNikki]

31. Was Hopey the Unicorn there, too?

[A HERETIC I AM]

32. "COME AND SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM"

"HELP, HELP, I'M BEING REPRESSED!"

[anigbrowl]

33. XD

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

34. I don't think your english teacher is going to accept this.

[Lex]

35. What was Jesus trying to do to the guy that he was refusing? nt

[J-Lo Biafra]

36. I remember the time I was pistol whipped by a couple of Mormons.

It was terrible! One of them knocked me to the ground and yelled "Don't make me get all Donny Osmond on your ass!" To this day, I have panic attacks whenever I see someone wearing a short sleeve store manager dress shirt and name tag!

[MilesColtrane]

37. I'll never forget the time two buddhist monks whipped out a rocket launcher on me...

because I refused to put any cash in their begging bowls.

I REALLY didn't expect a rocket launcher.

Because it was in an airport.

[J-Lo Biafra]

38. You know what's in those flowers that the Hare Krishnas give out, don't you?

It's mind control gas. :o

[Dreamer Tatum]

73. Spit Take +100

[undergroundpanther]

39. I am not lying about any of this

Make jokes about it,but these things HAPPENED. I am not asking for faith out of you, I wanted to SAY this happened to us. This incident has nothing to do with my mental state as you percieve it. It does have to do with the fact some extreme fanatics are dangerous and seem to be threatening at least where I am.I want those who decided to read this to be aware of this issue.

[Greyhound]

41. Upton Sinclair wrote about this phenomenon.

http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780451216588-1">It Can't Happen Here

We simply refuse to believe that which is too far outside our personal world view. Like the coup of 2000.

[raw oysters]

47. James Thurber did too...

The Secret Life of Walter Mitty


:D

[J-Lo Biafra]

42. I'm not making up the pistol whipping thing, either!

Except I kind of embellished the Donny Osmond thing. And it kind of wasn't a pistol, it was some literature. And he didn't really whip me with it, he sort of handed it to me. But the shirt was real, and terrifying!

[hfojvt]

46. the first one does strain the limits of credulity

because it does not fit what other people experience even when we have experience with religious fanatics.

[piratefish08]

43. You couldn't do anything to help your friend who was threatened at gunpoint because of the FLU?

really?!? at a Starbucks?

:rofl:

[undergroundpanther]

63. I was at home with the flu

I got his text message,where he texted me from was starbucks.
He was not pistol whipped .A fanatic was threatening him and showed the weapon to intimidate him.

[raw oysters]

44. Well, glad you recovered from the flu so quickly!

:-)

[undergroundpanther]

70. Partial recovery.

I still cough alot.And my sinuses are a mess.If this isn't better by next week I'm going to my doctor. I hope it does not get into my lungs.

[KatyMan]

45. I don't understand this:

Later that same week another friend and I were walking down the road when some shit head fundie in an SUV took his hands off his steering wheel in moving traffic, to make a cross with his index fingers as he yelled at us "You satanists go to hell!!!"
I just sorta stood there.It was so weird I had no retort.

Were you walking around in black robes or something? Carry scythes? Jars of urine with crucifixes in them?

[raw oysters]

50. Maybe....

[cherokeeprogressive]

53. Say "You satanists go to hell!" as fast as you can. About two seconds?

At 30 mph, a car carrying that evil person would travel 88 feet. Unless the driver was sticking his head out the window, I seriously doubt that the driver could be heard long enough to get all 7 syllables out.

At 45 mph, the car travels 132 feet.

I'm going to have to say... Naaaah.

[undergroundpanther]

69. uh no.

That's what made that comment so weird to me.

[endeavourniche]

48. Yeah Wow

[Dora]

49. LOL, the responses here are dismaying.

I believe your post, UP. But some of these responses to it make me wonder if you're a freeper magnet.

The peril of being different is that those people who don't like differences will hassle you. I'm sorry you get such shit from other people.

[anigbrowl]

52. Doesn't sound all that credible to me

In the first case, if someone was being threatened by fundies in a Starbucks, why text UP at home with the flu, instead of talking to one of the people who worked there or calling 911? Did these murderous fundies just sit aound dislpaying their weapon while the victim banged out a text message?

In the second case, how did this random driver come to decide that UP & friend were Satanic? Was it just some general intuition, was it one of the fundies from the previous day, or what? What part of the country is this in? Big town, small town? Maybe the OP is 100% true, but with so little context it's kind of hard to imagine how these incidents took place.

[rvablue]

54. I'm with you. n/t

[undergroundpanther]

56. he sent the text to alot of my freinds too

He pasted in names and FORWARDED the text en masse. If you know how to text message,you should realize you don't have to hand type each text, you can send the same message out to many people, just add the people's info into the many send to columns.

[raw oysters]

59. You should have quit while you were ahead. Well, not ahead, a bit behind.

Obey the rule of holes.


:rofl:

[Codeine]

55. The OP was bullshit.

Pure and simple.

[raw oysters]

57. Finally...someone calls it like it is.

:D
:D
edit: and I say this as one who despises fundies as much as anyone does!

[undergroundpanther]

60. were you there? Any of you calling it bullshit?

NO. You were not. I was there I got the texts you all didn't, so STFU about incidents you were not part of. What happened in my OP was true.

Also if you have nothing productive to say about the topic, or the general hostility some fanatics are showing..Why not grow up or go to the lounge.I find your assholery pathetic.Is this what DU has come to a bunch of children on here trying to start flame wars rather than discussing a topic like grown adults??

[raw oysters]

79. Sorry, I admit...nobody was there.

:-)

[Codeine]

80. I don't need to be there

to know you made this shit up.

It was a dumb fantasy post and you got called out on it -- deal.

[undergroundpanther]

66. Well

I guess...Seems like the fact I exist threatens some people.
I'm used to it. People are such chickenshits. I never fail to be amazed at how low they can get.I don't have much respect for alot of humanity,because of this sort of crap. If it weren't for the people with empathy here, like you and others I would just tear these ignorant twits apart and be done with it.

[JVS]

58. What the hell part of Maryland is this? I want to stay the fuck away!

[raw oysters]

61. It's the hell part. It's only one basement wide.

:D :rofl:

[undergroundpanther]

68. ?

And you know what projection is don't cha?
Quit doing it.

[undergroundpanther]

62. Harford county

Its turned red here and some here haven't grown past the kool aid damage & still think faux news is news

[pipi_k]

64. Not that I'm doubting your stories or anything, but...

I'm just wondering how these crazies knew your friend refused Jesus, and how the nutcase in the SUV knew that you were "Satanists".

Do some people have signs on their backs or something?

Or do the crazies just have an uncanny form of radar?

I mean, I'm as much a skeptic as anyone, but I don't think I've ever attracted that sort of attention from the religious fruitloops...


very curious...

[undergroundpanther]

67. Umm

No signs on backs.

Some people are fanatics.And threaten others. Some of those fanatics carry guns.

I was bothered by the satanist crap because it's a strange thing to hear coming from a SUV, from a stranger,his SUV had lots of jesus and rightwing sticker crap on it.And the traffic was not going really fast due to road construction.

I worry how many fanatics are out here.How many of them are threatening people.

[proteus_lives]

65. Sorry, doesn't pass the smell test.

First and second story.

How did the driver know you weren't Christian?

Why didn't the person in Starbucks inform the manager and/or call the police?

Took his hands off the wheel in moving traffic?

Sorry, sounds like bad fanfic. You have an axe to grind.

[undergroundpanther]

72. No axe

That is your issue not mine.

And my freind was scared and not everyone thinks of cops when they are scared.He was texting under the table.The fanatic was in his face.

As for the guy in the SUV I thought it was a strange thing to say to strangers walking down the road too.

[proteus_lives]

76. So you can't back-up your stories?

Is that what you're saying?

The real question is why didn't he inform the manager or call the cops afterwards? It the incident had had actually occurred, he could press charges.

What religious group were these people from? Did they approach any other people in the coffeehouse? How many witnesses were to this event? Did they leave any literature behind? Does your friend have a history of telling stories?

Here we go: Give me the city and location of the Starbucks were it "happened" and I'll make a call. I'll ask for the manager that day and see if they can vouch for the story. Does that sound fair?

[cherokeeprogressive]

81. This one ALWAYS thinks of "cops" when threatened.

I'm 6' and 220 lbs. I'm not afraid of too many people, but someone with a gun would have SURELY had me dialing 911 under the table rather than texting. Your friend must be pretty level headed, being able to text by touch while having a gun stuck in his face.

[vadawg]

74. yup sounds like someone has an agenda to drive

and driving it whilst under the influence at that..

[Dreamer Tatum]

71. Made-up stories nt

[REP]

75. Txt, but no call to 911 when a gun is displayed? Doesn't pass the smell test

I don't doubt this is what the "friend" told UP, but I do very much doubt this incident happened as reported. Guns are out, and txt a friend, but don't call the police? Don't go inside the store and ask the manager to call? Yeah.

[Warren DeMontague]

77. Ever since we bombed the moon, everything has gone to shit.

I could have told you this would happen.