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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:04 PM
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Great! another wingnut group: The Three Percenters
Edited on Mon Nov-02-09 03:09 PM by Are_grits_groceries
Three Percenters: "Attempt to further oppress us at your peril"

During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King's tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population.

We DO claim that we represent at least 3% of American gun owners, which is still a healthy number somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million people. We are one such minority. So too are the current enemies of the Founders' Republic.

The Three Percent today are gun owners who will not disarm, will not compromise and will no longer back up at the passage of the next gun control act. Three Percenters say quite explicitly that we will not obey any further circumscription of our traditional liberties and will defend ourselves if attacked. Thus, we are committed to the restoration of the Founders' Republic, and are willing to fight, die and, if forced by any would-be oppressor, to kill in the defense of ourselves and the Constitution that we all took an oath to uphold against enemies foreign and domestic.

We are the people that the collectivists who now control the government should leave alone if they wish to continue unfettered oxygen consumption. We are the Three Percent. Attempt to further oppress us at your peril.

To put it bluntly, leave us the hell alone.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/

They wouldn't know how to make the Founders' Republic if Jefferson and Washington were here to help them.

I want them to leave me the hell alone, and quit threatening me.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:06 PM
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1. Someone needs to remind them that no one is coming to take their guns
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:11 PM
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4. and if they ARE
those people will be much better at using guns than the wingnuts
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:13 PM
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6. Don't waste your time
Edited on Mon Nov-02-09 03:52 PM by MattBaggins
There is an organization out there that has developed a whole cottage industry of laundering money for the repubs and collecting funds from people who want to have a boogey man to fear.

Seriously; you can not assuage the fears of people who want fear to function.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:19 PM
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7. Sadly, this is true
I always point out to folks that Dubya passed way more gun control legislation than his predecessor, Clinton.

The PATRIOT act is all about lists, keeping them and updating them on registered gun owners

And the most Clinton does is extend a waiting period

Personally, I feel the same way about Gun Control that I do about Tractor Control
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:26 PM
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9. Clinton did more than "extend a waiting period". Ever hear of the 1994 AWB?
Edited on Mon Nov-02-09 03:30 PM by OneTenthofOnePercent
Probably one of the biggest political follies of the 90's. Even Clinton admits it was a stupid action.
Dems and Repubs have scores of antigun legislation alike.

The Dems problem has been the aging DLC openly adopting an antigun stance for years as part of the "Urban Policy".
Around 45% of American households have guns in them (over 80M owners). That's quite a voting base to be poking with a stick.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:30 PM
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10. Yes but the PATRIOT act is far worse
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:36 PM
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12. Depending on the circumstances, yes. Much worse.
The Patriot Act was pretty bad for several freedoms.
The difference I see with the PA vs the AWB is the PA was a broad brush power-grab.
Gun owners are marginally caught up in that along with several other groups of interest.
The AWB had one target... banning guns.

Think of it like premeditated murder (of rights) versus mowing through several rights haphazardly.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 08:13 PM
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14. Yes but I think the Democratic Party have learned
Edited on Mon Nov-02-09 08:13 PM by Taverner
Even Pelosi hasn't gone after guns, and that used to be one of her big causes (and given her history with friends and guns, can you blame her?)

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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:07 PM
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2. gun owners who refuse to obey laws...
theres something new.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:11 PM
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5. Uh, someone who doesnt obey a law is a criminal.
Do you not think there is a difference between a gun owner and a criminal or are you just trying to be a typical gun grabber that has nothing but hyperbole to post?
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:10 PM
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3. The gun huggers and gun strokers think they are some overwhelimng
bloc of patriots. They have no idea of the number of non psycho gun owners who will not support them in their little fantasy gun wars. They are no where as large a force as they think.

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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:22 PM
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8. Many (most) gun owners are open to legislation that both works
and is consistent with constitutionally protected rights.
For some reason, it's politically popular to push laws that both do not work to disarm criminals and goes out of the way to trample rights of the majority.

I think one modern peice of the puzzle working against the Three Percenters (not to be confused with the One-Tenth of One Percenters) is the royal armed forces and kings rule of the 18th century lived thousands of miles across the sea and intercontinental communication and transportation was a dismal state of affairs. The modern US Armed Forces could crush an 'insurrection' surpassing 90%... not that they ever would, but they could.
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la_chupa Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:31 PM
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11. I suppose it's more interesting if they think they're armed for some reason
other than hunting or target shooting anyway

I used to take karate. I had to give it up when the knees turned 40. Anyway there are a lot of different flavors of martial art out there. Me, I was always more into the "art" side of it, but there are some real survivor nut jobs out there. I think to them it was more exotic somehow to think that they would someday get to USE their mad skillz. Some of them would engage in crazy behavior intentionally putting themselves as risk just to get the chance to...well get hurt real bad.

Similar thinking here really.

As a side note I've noticed that the wide right christians also seem to get a jazz off of feeling like their being persecuted. I guess when they insist on boycotting stores that wish them "happy holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" then they feel like they are the moral equal to people who've been put to death for their beliefs.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 04:27 PM
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13. I've had fun with conservative gun nuts
By telling them that Obama signed into a law a bill that makes it more easy to carry guns in national parks (something that even Reagan didn't sign), and the White House issued a statement about all the gun-toting protesters outside of Obama events that if they're following state and local ordinances, then they don't have a problem with them.

It's fun to hear their synapses fry.

TlalocW
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