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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:10 PM
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Gingrich 'Deeply Upset' That Scozzafava Endorsed Democrat After He'd Supported Her
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Gingrich 'Deeply Upset' That Scozzafava Endorsed Democrat After He'd Supported Her
Eric Kleefeld | November 2, 2009, 11:07AM


Newt Gingrich, who had previously endorsed moderate Republican Dede Scozzafava in the NY-23 special election, now says he is "deeply upset" about her endorsement of Democrat Bill Owens after she withdrew from the race.

"How could she have accepted all that support?" said Gingrich, also adding: "I'm very, very let down because she told everybody she was a Republican, and she said she was a loyal Republican."

Gingrich had caught a lot of criticism on the right for supporting Scozzafava, and arguing that the Republican Party needs to have room for moderates. Now that Scozzafava has quit the race and endorsed the Democrat, due to campaign by the right to push her out in favor of Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman, Gingrich will certainly have to work hard to undo the damage from his having bet on the wrong horse.


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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:13 PM
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1. She was the repub candidate. There was no repub for her to endorse. Shut your trap Gingrich! n.t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:13 PM
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2. What's this? A Republican who isn't following the company line?
The end must be near if one republican is brave enough to go against the party like this, surely others will fall out as well.


:rofl:

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:14 PM
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3. Poor Newtie -
he just got his ass handed to him.

It really is hard on a person to find out they aren't GOD.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:35 PM
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6. Yeah, and he and George Will are supposed to be the..............
........."intellectuals" of the party? When I heard Republicans say that about of them I just laughed until I gagged. Two of the dumbest motherfuckers I have ever seen and they're the "intellectuals" of the Party? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ughhhhhhhhhhh..........
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:15 PM
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4. I am deeply happy that Newt is deeply upset.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:19 PM
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5. Same here. "Newt upset" makes me happy. n/t
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:37 PM
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7. She showed good sense
See this is what is happening to the real republicans. They are getting crowed out by s**t from the far far far religious and rabid right.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:40 PM
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8. The 20%ers fundies are calling her "leftist"
so she must be doing something right (e.g. thinking for herself).

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=748746
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 04:10 PM
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23. Haley Barbour called her "a traitor to the party" yesterday
With that type of "support", I just hope no one tries to stop them from "helping out" again.

LoL
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:44 PM
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9. Not only that but....
The "Independents" will look at this and move over to a more comfortable place than the rabid right will like. Most will vote Democratic too I believe.
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:45 PM
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10. Eye of Newt...
...got a bubble of trouble!
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:48 PM
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11. This is a win-win-win situation for Democrats.
The Republican candidate wasn't "conservative" enough for Palin and Michelle Malkin, so she drops out.

Palin and Malkin's candidate is a loose wingnut.

And the Democrat actually lives in the 23rd district!!

I commend Dede for not taking any of that "litmus test" shit from the GOP.
Fuck 'em if they don't think she's good enough for them.

I can't wait for Stephan Colbert to interview the Democrat on his "Get to Know Your District" series.
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rayofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:22 PM
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13. win-win?
It looks like Owens will lose, Biden's help notwithstanding.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/

At best it is a lose-win. Lose the district, win if this pushes the Republicans into a policy box supported by only a small number of people. The real test will be in the T-people go after fiscal liberals or social liberals in the primaries. If it is the latter, good news. Extreme social conservatism does not play well. The former, trouble for the Democrats. +trillion$ deficits and bailouts of Wall Street and auto unions are not popular. Hard to tell from this case because Scozzafava was a bit of both.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:45 PM
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19. Nah, hah, nah, you're just scraping the surface of the problem for the GOP
Rachel Maddow explained it all last week.

If Hoffman wins, that means the whackjob loonies of their party are in charge of running the GOP party nowdays.
Sort of like the "Charge of the Light Brigade".

So, the Democrats actually "win" because the whackier the GOP gets, the more to the extreme right they will demand all of their candidates to be - and they will lose the moderate majority that makes up the middle of the constituency of voters in America that constitute the biggest portion of the national voter pie - the independents in the middle.

If Owens wins, the Democrats win that seat in the House for the first time since the Civil War. And Obama can declare that is because they like him and his policies.

But, now that Dede has dropped out, the rational Republicans that live in that district have only 1 rational choice on election day tomorrow - to not vote.
They can't vote for the Democrat, even though Dede endorsed him yesterday, and they won't back Hoffman because he is too close to the edge of the world - "where there be monsters".

So, in effect, the GOP party has already lost that seat because the Republican candidate dropped out of the race.

It's a win-win-win situation for the Democratic party, as a whole, no matter what the outcome of the election is tomorrow!!
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:55 PM
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12. Yep, the freepers are highly pissed off at Newtie
Ya know, it's very very sad. :(
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:27 PM
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14. This will be the real story of this year's election and prefigures next year
As the nutcase RW consolidates power within the GOP and shoves perceived RINO's out, watch them flock to the Democratic party. They will do this for their own ideological reasons and also for spite
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:32 PM
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17. I wonder if they'll run into anyone on their way into our "big tent"...
Specifically around the HRC debate, I'm hearing a lot of DUers (and other Dems) discussing the need to get rid of the perceived DINO's in our party.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:32 PM
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27. They will never do it as they don't have the numbers that the RW has
it's something they've always talked about but they just don't have the numbers. They'd have to out maneuver organized labor, the Rainbow Coalition (or it's latest incarnation), Hispanic groups and a couple of others and they'll never do that.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:31 PM
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15. Poor Newt
Scozzafava endorsed the candidate with views closest to her own. Even Newt recognized that endorsing the radical rightist Hoffman
was a bad move for the Republican Party. That's why he endorsed her. He can keep his trap shut if he doesn't want to be seen endorsing the nut case radical, but he has no say over whether she does.

This was a lose-lose scenario for the Republican Party anyway. A Republican with common sense and reflecting the views of her Republican district was trailing badly against a Democrat and loony tune from the far right who doesn't even live in the district he is running to represent!! Either a Democrat wins, or a guy wins who would discredit and embarrass the Republican Party in Congress and makes them look even worse than they do now (if that's possible). That's what they get for sending in Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck. If you pour enough gasoline on the fire, you risk getting burned. That shouldn't be such a startling revelation, but apparently it is.
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:32 PM
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16. poor newt I am so sorry for him
I mean, how long did he think wingnuts can run his party before anyone with a grain of decency and common sense jumps ship.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:39 PM
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18. Face it Newt, it's not your Republican party anymore.
Edited on Mon Nov-02-09 01:40 PM by Ganja Ninja
It belongs to the Fem-Fuhrer and her goose stepping uber-Christians.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 01:51 PM
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20. Newt has an inflated idea of his own importance...
How can a Republican who was (to use a term from employment law) 'constructively dismissed' in another state fail to just ROLL OVER in gratitude for crumbs of support from His Mighty Newtiness? How can anyone be so *ungrateful*? Waaaahhhhhh!

What on earth still makes him relevant anyway?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:40 PM
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21. That's life, newt. You don't own her.
YOu just happened to have endorsed someone who doesn't buy into the whole limbaugh-palin shit scheme of things..iow, a person who cares about the state of the country.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 03:44 PM
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22. Is Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman a Republican? nt
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 07:26 PM
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24. No he is not...
and he "betrayed" the republicans first by running in the first place. You put your finger on it exactly.

But that's OK so long as the Democrats suffer too.

I used to think that the republicans were more than happy to do wrong by America, so long as they benefited as a party. Now I realize that they are willing to do wrong by America and even themselves, so long as it hurts a Democrat.

They couldn't recognize a positive plan if it bit them on the ass.

Amazing.

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 08:22 PM
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25. Newt who? Was that the little girl in the movie "Aliens"?
Why is she upset?
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:23 PM
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26. He's just covering his ass. Yawn.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:33 PM
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28. i'll support anything or anyone who 'deeply upsets' newt
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:35 PM
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29. Poor Newt. Now he'll have to make another public racist comment to make good with the GOP again.
I give Newt a week before we hear a real racist doozey from him. He's got to win back his tea-baggin' fringe lunatics after this screw up.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 12:38 AM
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30. kick
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 02:20 AM
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31. But what was she supposed to do? If Newt had developed a counteroffensive
she might still be in the race. He got outflanked by conservative nutbags and then cries when the real candidate tells everyone to beware of the hysterical nuts who destroyed her candidacy.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 11:18 AM
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32. This "loyal" R saw just how much loyalty is worth in the new GOP --
after she got stabbed in the back by her "fellow" Repugs.

So she's excercising the same brand of loyalty. At least you can't say she's a slow learner.
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