Who is backing Sarah Palin?

[Are_grits_groceries]

Somebody is giving her some help. I'll bet until recently, she thought New York 23 was a temperature reading.

My guess it is somebody like Dick Armey or someone else behind the teabag crap. Palin offered to campaign for Rethugs or 'whoever else met her beliefs.' She wasn't exactly run over with offers.

So Palin has now decided to 'campaign' in her own way. She is injecting herself into races with her Facebook postings. That apparently is now equivalent to the tablets Moses brought down from Mount Sinai. Gawd adjusts to the changing media I suppose.

Whoever is giving her support better be careful. Palin has a mindlet of her own. I believe if she got where she wanted to go, she would gladly dump anybody and go her own way. She has a direct connection to her peeps, and they would likely turn on anybody who chastised her.

The Rethug party doesn't know how to handle her. She ran away with the NY 23rd race with her early endorsement. They had to pick sides. Huckabee even got squashed for not picking anyone.

If she continues to interject herself into races such as this, it will be chaos beyond belief for Rethugs. I don't mind. However, Dems need to get our act together and not just watch them.

[Chemisse]

1. Palin has a mindlet of her own - I like that.

I would assume the Pubs are groaning over her involvement; when she is involved things are never pretty.

But what would you suggest Dems do, other than cook some popcorn and sit back for the show?

[SpiralHawk]

2. "It's her connection with the US Moon postion." - Ronald Reagan's Dead Republicon Astrologer*

"Any Republicon occultist who studies her horoscope could tell you Americans about Sarah's Neptunian connection to the US Moon, and the illusions created therefrom. Smirk."

- Ronald Reagan's Dead Republicon Astrologer*


* Courageously channeled by the intrepid SpiralHawk from the vast netherworld of Republicon occultism.

[Chemisse]

3. Ouch - that must have been spiritually painful - nt

[SpiralHawk]

13. I lather up with Dr. Bronner's All-Powerful peppermint soap beforehand

Terrific stuff for keeping Republicon Occult Cooties at bay.

[Are_grits_groceries]

4. Don't assume anything.

If she enters a race with her endorsement, it would create a different set of issues to respond to. The Democratic challenger shouldn't assume that the RW person would be a weaker opponent if they win their primary.

There are a lot of RW loons with a lot of money like the Koch brothers who would be glad to step in with funds for certain people. They would have to set up shells to do it, but it can be done.

In SC, we have been fighting this for a while. A very rich RW nut named Howard Rich has injected himself into a lot of races. He has even backed candidates on the state level. People have been able to trace the funding back to him, but it is a convoluted trail. That's one reason SC has turned into such a mess. There is a hidden hand pushing an agenda.

[bulloney]

5. Palin's support comes from two groups: Religious fundies and men who fantasize sleeping with her.

[peace frog]

8. I agree with the former

but the latter must be some desperately hard-up guys. She's a bit long in the tooth to be fantasy material, except perhaps to 80+ year old men with a script for Viagra.

[Truth2Tell]

24. widely overlapping groups btw nt

[SmileyRose]

6. My sister in law.

Needless to say, I feel sorry for my brother.

[tanyev]

7. Free Sarah! Let Sarah be Sarah!

Note to freepers: Be careful what you ask for.

[LeftHander]

9. Not really a mindlet...more of a primitive ganglia...nt

[Canuckistanian]

10. It's going to get to a point

Where a Palin endorsement is going to be the kiss of death, much like Bush & Cheney's were in the last election.

Republican strategists know how to read polls. And if the GOP loses NY 23, there are going to be some dark days ahead in the back rooms of the RNC.

[Are_grits_groceries]

12. I don't think so.

Palin's peeps don't care about what the mainstream leaders of the GOP say. Except for a few people, a lot of GOOPers who should know better followed her lead. Tim Pawlenty is an example. He should be someone who wouldn't back the nonsense Hoffman espouses.

Palin's endorsement of Hoffman put the entire GOP into scramble mode. They couldn't pile on fast enough, and most went with Hoffman. Those who didn't such as Gingrich jumped hard after Scozzafava withdrew. I don't know Scozzafava from Adam's housecat, but boy did they treat her like a piece of shit. i would worry if I was in a GOP primary.

They have that hard right 20% who will not bend period. Those are Palin's peeps. If they move to hold them, they throw almost everybody else overboard. They will not be a viable party again until they can move to the center.

Lindsey Graham has ads out against him for joining with Kerry on cap and trade policy. He doesn't even run for 5 more years.

[Canuckistanian]

14. I guess that's what happens when there's a total power vacuum

I think we're witnessing the fracturing of the GOP - the semi-normal people are losing control to the most far-gone extremist wing.

When even Gingrich is balking, you KNOW the end is near.

[KharmaTrain]

11. Welcome To The Wilderness

The GOOP has no soul yet searches for one...with different groups pushing their own agendas and candidates. The RNC is a joke...Steele has been a disaster (as witnessed in NY-23) and everyone is out for themselves. No one describes this more than Mooselini who, while toxic in a national election is seen as one of several "saviors". The great unhinged love her not for her knoweldge, experience or politics but cause she's a "victim" just like how many of them feel.

The bottom line is no one rushpublican polls more than 20% in their own 2012 polls and the factions continue to scism...a power vaccuum that allows a Palin to be relevant...and not only pushes this party further to the right but away from being a national party any time soon.

[lpbk2713]

15. Han-nutty's a NYer and he's a Failin fan.

Could be. :shrug:

[PretzelWarrior]

16. Sarah Palin's goin' rogue, dontchaknow?

what a dimwitted psycho. if she thinks this does any more than line her pockets short term and get her some short term ego stroking, she really is an idiot. the establishment GOP is done with her.

[Nictuku]

17. Bill Kristol & the other NeoCons

http://www.politicususa.com/en/Kristol-Palin

[Avalux]

18. You beat me to it! Kristol is always looking for a good puppet.

Someone mindless who will forward the PNAC agenda. PNAC and the neocons are very much active even though they dismantled.

[stanwyck]

19. Ever see the movie w/Nicole Kidman, "To Die For"

Palin is a similar personality to the character (brilliantly) portrayed by Nicole Kidman. Smart, but too willing to rely more on looks and sexuality for advancement instead of doing the nitty gritty hard work. Palin refused to fulfill her four years as governor. She was bored and too entranced with her own national (hell, international) image. She's obsessed with being Sarah Palin. The people who are supporting her are supporting the heat she generates. Her ideology is all over the place. Her words are non-sensical. That makes no difference. She, like Reagan, is an effective spokesmodel. And the GOP is desperate for a new icon.
Sarah, laughable as she is - and she is ridiculous, is the best the GOP has for heat.
Cause, let's face it, Huckabee, Gingrich, Cantor, Jindahl, Pawlenty....c'mon. Not even ice cream melts around these guys.

[Blue_In_AK]

20. Grits, I think you are wise to be concerned about SP.

I don't know who's pulling her strings either, but her followers are guano crazy. It seems like most people in Alaska have wised up to her now, but I'm bothered by how much clout she seems to be having in these national elections.

It makes absolutely no sense to me, but her fans seem to see her as some sort of mythological figure, even Queen Esther. They're just that nuts.

[Are_grits_groceries]

25. I will keep my eye on her.

Batshit crazy people bother me because they will do anything for their idol.

I don't know what's going on, but I'll bet she intervenes in some other primaries using Facebook or something. I think they are just testing the prevailing winds.

The Rethugs who aren't quite on the edge of the Earth are scared to death of her and her followers. Newt has been the only one to say boo.

She is the GOP problem, but that doesn't mean she won't be a bigger one.

[Raschel]

32. Don't the crazy people wonder why she will only speak thru the internet?

Aren't they craving to see and hear her? Don't they realize she can't speak?

[mdmc]

21. Me!

If Ron Paul does not run in 2012 I will support Palin for the GOP nomination.
Bring it on!
I know we can beat her in 2012. We will have to work for the win against Palin in 2016 (unless she fades away).

[starroute]

22. Might be the "vast right-wing conspiracy" gang

John Ziegler, the radio talk show host and filmmaker who's been promoting Palin, has also teamed up with David Bossie of Arkansas Project fame. This recent Joe Conason article, "The vast right-wing conspiracy is back" may give some clues:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2009/10/05/clinton_obama/index.html

<Christopher> Ruddy was the journalist who spun the most fanciful theories about the death of Clinton White House lawyer Vince Foster. Working at the Pittsburgh Tribune Review, owned by billionaire and avowed Clinton foe Richard Mellon Scaife, Ruddy popularized the canard that Foster had not committed suicide, as determined by five official investigations, but more likely had been murdered -- possibly to cover up corruption in the Whitewater land deal or because of an illicit affair with Hillary Rodham Clinton or both.

Beyond spreading paranoia about the Foster tragedy, Ruddy and Scaife both played central roles in the distribution of nearly half a million copies of "The Clinton Chronicles" and other covert machinations against the Clinton White House –- most notably the "Arkansas Project," a $2.4 million scheme to dig up or invent crimes by the president and first lady, with assistance from several unsavory characters, including die-hard segregationist Jim Johnson, a couple of private detectives and a bait-shop owner.

Ten years later, life has changed for Ruddy and Scaife. They're partners in Newsmax, based in West Palm Beach, Fla., and now the largest conservative publication in the country, both online and off. With 130,000 print subscribers its circulation is nearly twice as large as the Weekly Standard, and with nearly 4 million unique monthly visitors to Newsmax.com, it is larger than the Drudge Report. According to Forbes, which profiled Newsmax last spring, the low-budget site and its affiliates brought in nearly $30 million last year. More important than its profits is its sway over conservative readers.

Newsmax is a muscular media presence with influence across the right from Rush Limbaugh and all his radio imitators to Fox News Channel and beyond. Ruddy was among the most insistent endorsers of the Obama birth certificate myth, playing much the same role he once did during the Vince Foster affair. He has assiduously promoted the "tea party" movement and the "socialism" meme. When Newsmax published an essay by an obscure former newsman that seemed to urge a military coup against Obama last week (and then removed it), the reverberations were felt across the political spectrum. Every day the site blasts forth a barrage of supposed Obama scandals and embarrassments to be amplified by Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and the panoply of talk radio and cable megaphones, knowing that by sheer volume, some of it will stick.

[Orsino]

23. Anyone who wants us stupid might back her play.

The usual right-wing suspects, who backed every other right-winger?

[jimlup]

26. I love Sarah

She's done more to help democrats than any single democrat.

[NoSheep]

27. Those who want to use her the way Bush was used by the PNAC.

so...that means probably the PNAC

[mascarax]

28. Grits, what a great line re: Palin's Facebook game

<<That apparently is now equivalent to the tablets Moses brought down from Mount Sinai.>>

Thanks for making me laugh!

[madamesilverspurs]

29. Her idol and mentor . . .

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[HipChick]

30. I love that this blew up in their face like it did ...

[Are_grits_groceries]

31. I don't think it will deter them. thank Gawd. nt