NPR poll (White House vs. Fox) being badly freeped

[stubtoe]

1755 posts, which is astronomical for an NPR story. There are more than just the usual suspects posting here.

Link: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/10/in_white_house_vs_fox_news_war.html

[izquierdista]

1. Let it go

Sadly, NPR now stands for National 'Publican Radio, since they became whipped puppies during the Bush misAdministration. I sure as hell won't give to their pledge drives now. Maybe they would do some actual reporting in the public interest before, but now they have given that up. They have the worst of both worlds -- the thin bankbook of a liberal non-profit, and the compromised standards of a conservative sex pervert.

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. Sarah Palin is still winning an NPR poll from 2008

You might not remember that poll but many here do.....
it was a standing joke....... just like this one
which bogus.


You can load a computer with scripts such as 'Automator' on a Mac to vote numerous times and not even have to touch it.

LET IT GO.

[stubtoe]

5. You can vote as many times as you want!

Yes, the poll is bogus. It's the comments that I really noticed.

[adamuu]

12. no, you can't

If you look closely at the source of the result page after a re-vote, it says "Thank you, we have already counted your vote."
Scripts to manipulate this poll must have a way around this.

[adamuu]

13. oh nvm ... i found the secret. it's trivial once you know it

bot in place... tough competition... looks like their bots do 5-10 yes votes per second.

[adamuu]

14. oh come on! "This Poll is no longer active" n/t

[HughMoran]

3. Freepers are more into online polls since it's the only thing they can "win" any more

It's very quickly turning into "PBS pol# 538" - I'd just send them an email stating that their poll has been attacked by right-wingers and therefore is invalid. Remember, it was 51-48 in favor of Obama before the Freepers discovered it.

[geckosfeet]

4. NPR. Bwaaa haaaaw haaaw haaaww. Long gone over to the freeps if you ask me.

[imdjh]

6. Why do you say that, TDF?

[HughMoran]

7. Ignore the 'hate' NPR trolls

NPR is mostly liberal and everybody knows it. Just because they have a couple of neutral/right-leaning commentators, they can't be trusted - it's ridiculous thinking.

[geckosfeet]

8. Because their programming often presents a RW conservative fundie slant.

It is subtle but insidious.

Compared to where they were politically when they started, they have moved far to the right.

[HughMoran]

9. So now they're only "mostly left-leaning"

:rofl:

You're a little bit overboard on your criticism.

[geckosfeet]

10. Hardly. Comparatively right leaning is an understatement.

[HughMoran]

11. I listen to it all day, every day

So I can say for certain that you're full of it. I'm in the Boston area and people wouldn't put up with it if it was conservative - maybe in your area it's different.

Edit: now that I see you're from Mass, I can say with certainty that you're full of it.

[Subdivisions]

15. Just look at that poll. *Shaking head* Fux Snooze has 3:1 support.

Unbelievable. Freeping isn't what's driving the numbers in this poll. Most of the people voting for Fux don't even know what a Freeper is. This is just a sad representation of the of the effectiveness of Fux to prey on the mental capacity of its followers. The flashy red, white, and blue graphics and over-and-over repetition of the phrase "Fair and Balanced" and the day's far-right talking points and the constant fear-mongering - well, it's just too much for their little minds to overcome.

[adamuu]

17. completely meaningless number

A script can vote ~6 times per second. All those numbers tell you is that someone else had a similar script running for a longer duration.

Iteration 1.
(194,247 votes) (781,668 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 2.
(194,248 votes) (781,669 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 3.
(194,249 votes) (781,669 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,251 votes) (781,670 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,252 votes) (781,679 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,253 votes) (781,680 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,255 votes) (781,681 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 8.
(194,256 votes) (781,681 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 9.
(194,257 votes) (781,681 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 10.
(194,259 votes) (781,683 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 11.
(194,260 votes) (781,683 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 12.
(194,261 votes) (781,684 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,262 votes) (781,684 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,263 votes) (781,684 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,264 votes) (781,686 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,265 votes) (781,687 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,266 votes) (781,688 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,267 votes) (781,714 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,268 votes) (781,714 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,269 votes) (781,714 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,270 votes) (781,714 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 22.
(194,271 votes) (781,716 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,272 votes) (781,717 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,273 votes) (781,717 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 25.
(194,274 votes) (781,718 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 26.
(194,275 votes) (781,719 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,277 votes) (781,719 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,279 votes) (781,721 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,280 votes) (781,721 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,281 votes) (781,721 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,282 votes) (781,721 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 32.
(194,283 votes) (781,723 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 33.
(194,284 votes) (781,724 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,285 votes) (781,724 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 35.
(194,287 votes) (781,729 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 36.
(194,288 votes) (781,731 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,289 votes) (781,732 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,290 votes) (781,732 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,291 votes) (781,732 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,293 votes) (781,743 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,295 votes) (781,744 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,297 votes) (781,745 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,298 votes) (781,746 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,299 votes) (781,747 votes) (15,197 votes)
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(194,300 votes) (781,748 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 46.
(194,301 votes) (781,748 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 47.
(194,303 votes) (781,750 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 48.
(194,304 votes) (781,750 votes) (15,197 votes)
Iteration 49.
(194,305 votes) (781,750 votes) (15,197 votes)

[alfredo]

21. Someone at FR uses a voting bot to ensure results they want.

[adamuu]

23. well, we have one on our side now. Next time you want it, PM me. n/t

[alfredo]

25. Test it on that poll.

[adamuu]

29. I did. Shortly after I started using it, polldaddy closed the poll

I will use a throttle next time.

[alfredo]

30. I hope this will lead them to change the polls to defeat the bots.

[adamuu]

32. Naw. That would just be an arms race.

You can implement measures to make botting more difficult, but someone with enough time on their hands can beat those too (and their cost per developer hour is less than yours).

I won't say it's impossible. Shareholder online Proxy votes allow one vote per share by sending a secret code by mail that can be used only once.

[alfredo]

34. Restrict voting to registered readers.

[adamuu]

35. mail server + random username generator. n/t

[alfredo]

36. True. That's a lot of trouble to skew a meaningless poll.

[adamuu]

16. I wrote a script, and I think NPR decided to kill the poll.

I tried from a different IP address and got the same message.
So, I think the silly game is over.

Let's move on.

[stubtoe]

19. Maybe they didn't like the way YOUR script voted?

I didn't know that, about using scripts and bots on polls. Very interesting!

[HughMoran]

27. Update at 7 a.m., Oct. 31: "As Raw Story explains, the poll touched off a competition"

Update at 7 a.m., Oct. 31: I would like to say thanks to all those who were inspired to vote. As Raw Story explains, the poll touched off a competition. That's a good thing, in my opinion. These kinds of surveys aren't meant to be scientific. They're intended to stimulate discussion and give folks another way to express themselves. We certainly accomplished that.

Now, can I make a small request? Perhaps some who came here to vote and comment could come back on occasion and contribute again to the discussions? We value your input.

Thanks again,

- Mark

The poll is over and it was cheated to death by idiot freepers.

[mucifer]

18. Senator Durbin's poll is more important:

He's polling people on the public option please respond.

http://ga3.org/dickdurbin/po_poll.html

[alfredo]

20. I posted about voting bots possibly skewing the results. I mentioned a

republican site that bragged about their bot.

[adamuu]

22. Yup. Voting in such a poll (manually) is a waste of your time.

You are better off spending 2 minutes firing off yet another letter to your congress critter. IMO.

[alfredo]

24. I won't allow the reactionaries to take comfort in such polls.

[upi402]

26. God, those Stepford bots are soooo zealous! n/t

[HughMoran]

28. Update: "As Raw Story explains, the poll touched off a competition."

Update at 7 a.m., Oct. 31: I would like to say thanks to all those who were inspired to vote. As Raw Story explains, the poll touched off a competition. That's a good thing, in my opinion. (yeah, lame way to justify this idiocy - HM). These kinds of surveys aren't meant to be scientific. They're intended to stimulate discussion and give folks another way to express themselves. We certainly accomplished that.

Now, can I make a small request? Perhaps some who came here to vote and comment could come back on occasion and contribute again to the discussions? We value your input.

Thanks again,

- Mark

The poll is over and the idiot freepers were bagged cheating their whiny asses off.

[maynard]

31. done

[adamuu]

33. oh, it's back? nice. n/t