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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:17 AM
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Republicans endorse Conservative practicing Pagan
Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 11:08 AM by Ian David
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Well, here's a vote to forget all that tea leaf reading and instead turn your attention downstate, to a city council race in the borough of Queens that under normal circumstances wouldn't get locals terribly excited, much less have any national implications.

Why is this year different? For starters, the race between the Democrat and the Republican is actually competitive, which certainly isn't always the case in New York City. (The mayoralty is different, for some reason, as Republicans from LaGuardia to Lindsay, Giuliani to Bloomberg, have shown. But the council reflects grassroots reality: 47 of the current 51 council members are Democrats.)


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Far more important, however, is that the GOP nominee, Dan Halloran, is a practicing Pagan. And not just any Pagan. Halloran is the "First Atheling," or King, of New Normandy, which is the Greater New York Area branch of the Théod faith of pre-Christian Heathen religions.

The Web site of Halloran's tribe says it is "dedicated to reviving the folkways of the northern European people" and that its followers practice "Théodish Belief, which emphasizes the bonds of the community and the development of a worldview and cultural ethos that our ancient forebears would have honored, and uses these tools to forge a connection between the individual and the divine. We believe in and honor the Gods and Goddesses of the North, spirits of the land, and the memories of our ancestors."

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"I am not comfortable with injecting my religion into my politics," Halloran told the paper. "I grew up born and raised Roman Catholic. I went to Jesuit schools. Most of my life has been in traditional Irish household."



More:
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10/31/a-pagan-republican-trick-or-treat/


See also:

GRAND OL' PAGAN: What Does the Republican 'Heathen' Running for New York's City Council Actually Believe?


In a photograph from New Normandy's website, Dan Halloran leads a heathen ritual.

Conservative. Republican. Pagan?

It was an odd news story that briefly upended what should have been a sleepy City Council race in Bayside: the Queens Tribune reported that a conservative Republican was running a strong race in the 19th district and had a chance to win in the overwhelmingly Democratic city. But this was a conservative Republican with a difference: Dan Halloran is the spiritual leader of a local pagan group that worships Norse gods.

Although the Tribune's story had no hint of derision for Halloran's religious affiliation, the newspaper was immediately attacked for its perceived ties to Halloran's Democratic opponent. Other publications were quick to defend the Republican lawyer, some sounding offended that a candidate's religion, however unusual, should become a news story during an election.

But Halloran's beliefs are newsworthy. As far as we can tell, he has a chance to become the first pagan elected to political office in the country's history. (He is certainly the first major party candidate approaching an election with his pagan beliefs already made public.) And while pagans have been growing in numbers for decades, the word "pagan" usually conjures nature-worshippers with interests in faeries and magick. What is a conservative Republican doing with the goddess crowd?

In fact, Halloran and his fellow travelers are more properly thought of as "heathens," not pagans, and the tribal customs they ascribe to are heavy on hierarchy and tradition.

More:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/10/grand_ol_pagan.php



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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:20 AM
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1. Holy Guacamole!
Do the Cons know this?
Chances are they did not, or he would have NEVER gotten the nomination.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:26 AM
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2. My sister-in-law and her deadbeat-dad husband are also conservative Republican Pagans. n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:32 AM
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3. Here's a picture of him. Someone photo shop Stonehenge in it!
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nixonwasbetterthanW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:54 AM
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4. Your headline is totally wrong.

Halloran is involved in a Queens city council race.

He has nothing to do with Hoffman or the NY-23 congressional race.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 11:02 AM
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6. Ooh! Thanks! I was confused. I'll fix it. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:56 AM
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5. Are you sure this is the correct race? The repuke pulled out of NY23 yesterday
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 12:21 PM
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7. An American pagan who incarnates Thor is better than one them foreign born Muslins...
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 12:41 PM
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8. Boy Howdy.. God Bless America, all the Ships at Sea and
the Bastard King of England..

This is why I love politics...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 02:29 PM
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9. No True Pagan would join them Republicans...the dude is a Fraud Pagan. like Joe L. is a fraud Human
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 09:52 PM
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13. Wrong. When neopagans in my area interested in Norse deities place ads--
--they ALWAYS specify "Not a white supremacist group." Not all who call themselves pagans are treehugging liberals.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 07:25 AM
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16. "Ignored" is usually wrong. n/t
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 07:32 AM
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18. Not this time
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 08:09 AM
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21. Considering that the dude is a right-wing conservative Republican, I wouldn't be surprised...
... if in this particular instance, the Pagan in question is a white supremacist.


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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 08:27 AM
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23. Here is their post
Wrong. When neopagans in my area interested in Norse deities place ads--
--they ALWAYS specify "Not a white supremacist group." Not all who call themselves pagans are treehugging liberals.

You two would seem to agree in this case.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:19 AM
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24. Ignored was post #9. n/t
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:22 AM
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25. Oops!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 03:07 PM
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10. He's helping to rune the GOP.
:)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 07:24 AM
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15. ROFL!!! n/t
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 07:37 AM
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19. The runes on his cloak
look like the runes in the Lord of The Rings.
Anyone have a copy of the Return of the King?If so take a look at the ones found in the Appedix's provided there.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 03:41 PM
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11. My (first-hand) experience with Norse traditionalists...
...is that many of them harbor a deep antipathy towards people who do not resemble Scandinavians.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 09:47 PM
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12. +1
From an eclectic pagan who has witnessed exactly the same thing. They want a daddy god. One who looks like them and prefers norse people (extra brownie points the closer they can get it to 'traditional' worship...).

Lots of them are also hooked up with white pride types. Just sayin. Not all. I know a lot of norsemen, I'm married into them, not all are that way, but it seems to attract quite a few 'separationists'...

95% of the witches and magicians and pagans I have met in my life are liberal and open people. I don't know the draw to 'conservatism' for the few, yet, there are there are also black republicans and hispanic and women republicans. It seems to be going against one's intrests, but when did that stop anybody?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 07:43 AM
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20. Is that why the DJ in my head is playing Wagner?
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 09:58 PM
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14. Meh. His practicing rituals is no different than anyone else practicing theirs.
To me, they are all being silly.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 07:26 AM
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17. True. But at least Pagans get to have hot, Pagan sex. n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 08:21 AM
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22. See also
White Supremacist Running Odinist Network From Maximum-Security Prison

Casper Crowell is a busy man. He’s the spiritual leader of a religious non-profit organization, the Holy Nation of Odin, Inc. Crowell designs some of its greeting cards, which he sells along with a host of other merchandise on his group’s website. He also recruits followers through several MySpace pages, a blog and his own YouTube channel. He’s been interviewed for a National Geographic Channel documentary. And in 2007 he endorsed the presidential candidacy of Republican Ron Paul.

Crowell, 46, has done all of this and more while serving a life sentence for murder in a California maximum-security prison that also is home to the likes of Charles Manson and Sirhan Sirhan. He proclaims himself “the honorable allsherjargothi in the Holy Nation of Odin, Inc.” That’s from Old Norse meaning “the People’s (Folk’s) Priest/servant,” Crowell says. Membership is $40 a year, unless like Crowell, you’re incarcerated.

Racist versions of Odinism and its Icelandic version, Asatru, have become increasingly popular theologies among imprisoned racists and others on the radical right in recent years. Odinism features Norse gods such as Odin, the warlike father of all gods and men. The racist version advocates the ultimate triumph of a pure, white race.

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Crowell also began another organization with a website called Vinland Folk Resistance that extols the virtues of Odinism and racism. On that website, he urged fellow white nationalists to resolve their differences and work toward one goal: “WHITE PRIDE!” His wife contributed an essay, “On Aryan Beauty.”

More:
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/03/20/white-supremacist-running-holy-nation-of-odin-from-maximum-security-prison/



Intelligence Report
Winter 1998


The New Barbarians
New brand of Odinist religion on the march



A neo-Pagan religion drawing on images of fiercely proud, boar-hunting Norsemen and their white-skinned Aryan womenfolk is increasingly taking root among Skinheads, neo-Nazis and other white supremacists across the nation.

Asatrú leaders have opened prison ministries in at least five states recently, and their many jailed followers are heavily white supremacist. A leading proselytizer, iimprisoned terrorist David Lane, has been writing prolifically and influencing many to adopt his racist interpretations.

<snip>

Asatrú (and Icelandic word meaning "belief in the Æesir," or gods) has been officially recognized as a religion in Iceland since 1972. Historically, its architects have avoided racist interpretations of its Eurocentric cosmology.

But in the United States, where insiders say 15 percent of Asatrúers follow an overtly racist version of the theology, a struggle is now going on for the hearts and minds of its followers.

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The religion, which revives a pre-Christian pantheon of Norse gods, is appealing to white supremacists because it mythologizes the virtues of early northern European whites — seen as wandering barbarians, deeply involved in a mystical relationship with nature, struggling heroically against the elements.

More:
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=451


And from the website of Dan Halloran's group:


Our Beliefs: An Explanation of Thew

Théodish Belief emphasizes a reconstructive approach towards those bonds of community, worldview, and cultural ethos that our ancient forebears would have honored; in order to forge a connection between the individual and the divine. We believe in, and honor, the Gods and Goddesses of the North, spirits of the land, and the memories of our ancestors. Thus it is our obligation to re-forge that elder concept of holiness, that which is whole and happy.

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The foundation of our culture is built upon frith. Frith is a hard concept to define in its truest sense, it being often translated as peace. This definition held true only after the Northern Cultures were shattered by the onslaught of Christianity, in its quest to sever the tribal ties of those cleaving to their heathen ways. In its elder meaning, frith was the glue which held kin and tribe as a unified fence against any external factors. It brought conflict, demanding action against outsiders who interfered in tribal matters; it brought resolution, as internal problems have no choice but to be settled and done with. It formed the initial bond between Gods and men.


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‘Tis better unasked than offered overmuch;
for ay doth a gift look for gain;
‘tis better unasked than offered overmuch;
thus did Odin write ere the earth began,
when up he rose in after time (Havamal 145, Hollander trans)

<snip>

The worship of the Germanic Gods and ancestors is something that Théodish Belief has in common with Ásatrú, and needs little explanation. However, it should be noted that there are far more religious taboos in Théodism, and a Théodsmen observes them very strictly. There is no shame for Théodsmen in bending knee to our Gods, and just as in elder times, Théodism regularly practices blood sacrifice. Numerous formalities, emphasis on elder tongues, and an overall orthopraxy are inherent elements of Théodism’s worship of the Gods and Ancestors. Such is Théodism application of its religion, that it is often regarded as “retro-heathenry”, but it is certainly focused heavily on the strict reconstruction of Germanic religious elements, and therefore anachronistic in large measure.

More:
http://www.normannii.org/beliefs.html


Gee, do you think the Conservative Republican Pagan may belong to the 15% who are White Supremacists?

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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:28 AM
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26. A European version of Rastafarianism?
It could happen--anything to mix up the melting pot!
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:51 AM
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27. no weirder than worshipping a zombie born of a virgin.
i'm more worried that he's conservative. soon he'll be running up the deficit with his illegal war against orcs.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 10:14 AM
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28. Kim, Halloran lob charges of racism, robbery. Campaign turns sour in final stretch
Kim, Halloran lob charges of racism, robbery. Campaign turns sour in final stretch
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6907716&mesg_id=6907716


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