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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 09:54 AM
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Two Sunday AM thoughts after reading the NY Times...
There are two columns in Week in Review that caught my eye today - the one about Grayson (That's Outrageous by David Herszenhorn), and MoDo's one on Obama's visit to Dover.

Maybe it is spending so much time on DU and TPM and reading so many discussions and articles that go into more depth and call out the BS better. The Grayson topic bothered me because it tends to do what the TV media does - make a moral/truth equivalent to both sides of the issue. There really should be only one point when comparing the Grayson comments to the slanted hyperbole that emits from nutcases like Bachmann. And it is that Grayson (and other courageous Dems, like Frank) are factually correct in what they say. The Republican nutcases twist, lie and distort in their lines. Yet the media covers it like either both sides are right or both sides are wrong.

On MoDo's column, she strikes me as being quite lightweight - the tone of her column is correct (Liz Cheney's blasting Obama while inferring that Bush went to Dover but didn't make a big deal of it - the lie, of course, being that he never went!), it never goes quite deep enough to me. Maybe it is that she isn't particularly deep, maybe she is trying to gauge her readers and tone down the outrage. But her column is a perfect chance to call out clearly and sharply the lies and distortions of the Liz Cheneys of the right - and it just isn't enough.

So, yet another Sunday morning when I am completely underwhelmed by what I am reading....and I turn to DU and TPM to find out what is really going on.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:06 AM
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1. My opinion of the NYT is that they are consistently slanting (and bending with lies) to
support Republicans. We have 7 tv networks and 3 major papers that are all Republican.

When is the last time that the NYT really helped the country with some sound, investigative journalism - instead of propaganda and favoritism and outright politicing?

It's good that some of us keep an eye on them and share it. Thanks.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:08 AM
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2. I find that occasionally Frank Rich rises up and blasts the truth -
but it doesn't happen nearly enough. I agree with you - there is no love in corporate sponsored media of what Obama is trying to do.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 11:36 AM
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4. Watergate
ie: last time the NYT helped the country..........
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 12:26 PM
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5. a high water mark, for sure. . . n/t
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 10:50 AM
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3. The MSM has been setting up
this false equivalence for a while. They have people giving their opinions like Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin. In doing so, they act like what they say has some basis in reality.

They try to equate them with Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow. KO and Rachel are to the left, but they aren't anywhere as close to the edge as those wingnuts. They also try to deal in facts, and not make crap up.

The right is pushing this because they want to make the people on the left who are much more moderate than Coulter and company seem just as loony. If people hear Beck or Coulter's crazy shit and realize it is nuts, then they may just assume KO and others are just as bad and shut them out too.
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