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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:30 PM
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Rep. Eshoo Sets the Record Straight on Jane Hamsher's Unfounded Accusations
I knew Hamsher's claim was unfounded. She is attacking not only Eshoo, but work co-authored by Sen. Ted Kennedy. FDL has been losing credibility lately trying to sensationalize the HCR issue. I appreciate rallying the troops, but Hamsher went too far. Those who bought into Hamsher's unfounded accusation need to read this entire article. It puts facts out there instead of fear mongering. The fact is, the House Bill will ensure biologics are covered and ensure that research is supported for further development of biologics.

From Rep. Eshoo at HuffPo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-anna-eshoo/setting-the-record-straig_b_340106.html

Like millions of Americans, I was thrilled by today's unveiling by Speaker Pelosi of the House health care reform bill, the Affordable Health Care for America Act. I was proud to stand with the Speaker and my Democratic colleagues in support of this historic legislation. Since coming to Congress more than 16 years ago, nothing has been more important to me than achieving comprehensive health care reform and as a member of one of the primary committees responsible for drafting the bill, few members worked harder than I did in bringing it to the House Floor.

Ms. Jane Hamsher related some heartbreaking stories on HuffPost about breast cancer survivors and their struggles to overcome this devastating disease. I've heard dozens of similar stories and each one has moved me to do everything I possibly could throughout my public service to help breast cancer victims, and I have been a leader in the House of Representatives in promoting women's breast health. The National Breast Cancer Coalition, a group representing hundreds of organizations and millions of women who dedicate their lives to curing breast cancer has honored me with their prestigious 'Perfect Voting Record' honor. I've fought tirelessly to make it a federal crime for insurance companies to kick women out of their hospital beds right after they've had a mastectomy (the Breast Cancer Patient Protection Act). I fought for increased access to breast cancer screening so millions of women can catch the cancer before its too late (MRI and Mammogram Availability Act).

In 1997, I successfully authored and saw into law the Reconstructive Breast Surgery Benefits Act, which banned the practice of private insurers treating breast reconstructive surgery following a mastectomy as cosmetic surgery. In 2000, I was a leading sponsor of the Breast Cancer and Cervical Treatment Act, which allows states to use Medicaid dollars to provide health treatment coverage for low-income women diagnosed with breast or cervical cancer. I also serve as Chair of the Cancer Care Working Group, a coalition of members in the House who are dedicated to improving the care and treatment of cancer patients.

I'm exceedingly proud to have legislation I authored many years ago which prohibits lifetime health insurance caps included in the House health care reform bill. This cap affects many breast cancer victims, such as the woman mentioned in Jane Hamsher's HuffPost column, "House Health Care Bill: A Death Sentence for My Fellow Breast Cancer Survivors," effectively cutting off their insurance when they need it most. My legislation outlaws this practice.

Having put so much into these critical issues, I'm quite frankly outraged by the falsehoods and misrepresentations in Ms. Hamsher's column.

My amendment to create a new pathway for approval of 'follow-on' versions of innovative biotechnology products, or 'biosimilars,' will not deny patients access to these miraculous treatments. In fact, my legislation, sponsored by the late Senator Edward Kennedy, will create for the first time in our country's history an FDA approval process for biosimilars to compete with innovative biologics.

Today, no expedited pathway for approval of a follow-on version of a biologic product exists. There are only generic versions of traditional, small-molecule drugs. For biologics, any prospective competitor to a brand-name product would have to go through the same lengthy and expensive approval process and clinical trials as the original manufacturer. As a result, there is very little economic incentive to develop a competitive version of a successful biologic.

Under the legislation that Senator Kennedy and I championed, prospective biosimilar manufacturers would be permitted to use an accelerated approval process and utilize the clinical trials and laboratory data of the innovative product to demonstrate the safety and efficacy of their product. Biotechnology products are highly complex and, unlike traditional chemical drugs, they cannot be precisely duplicated by a second manufacturer. Our amendment would allow these follow-on manufacturers to say, in essence, "my product is close enough to the original product, and the FDA can rely on the innovator's safety and efficacy data to approve my product."

Biotechnology products cost billions of dollars to develop, test and bring to market, and in order to ensure that competitors aren't immediately allowed to free-ride on the costly safety and efficacy data produced by innovators, some period of 'data exclusivity' is necessary to allow some period of time to recoup the investment in developing the drug. Without such a 'data exclusivity' period, there would be no reason to invest in new biologics. We would see the flow of research funds going to traditional pharmaceuticals, medical devices, semiconductors, green technology or other more promising innovations.

The House and Senate health care bills include a data exclusivity period of 12 years, which is the same amount of time that all drugs enjoy on the market under patent protection, which prevents any competition. I believe the 12-year data exclusivity period preserves the existing incentives for investment in these life-saving products.

It's important to note that today there is absolutely no restriction on data exclusivity -- it's effectively infinite. Competitors are never permitted to use the data produced by a brand-name biologic manufacturer. The Kennedy-Eshoo legislation brings this exclusivity down from forever to 12 years, in essence laying the groundwork for the creation of the biosimilar industry, new competition for the biotechnology industry, and reduced prices for patients.

Let me individually address the patently false statements in Ms. Hamsher's post.


"...thanks to Representatives Anna Eshoo and Joe Barton, there will be no generic versions of these drugs. At least not for 12 years..."


The 12-year data exclusivity period in the Kennedy-Eshoo legislation begins from the time of FDA approval. Since the vast majority of the most popular biologics treatments were approved at least 12 years ago, this means that they would have virtually no data exclusivity protection. The important cancer and anemia treatments that millions of patients rely on will be subject to biosimilar competition as quickly as the FDA can process the follow-on manufacturers' applications. (For example, under my amendment Herceptin's data exclusivity period will expire in September 2010.)

"And because of an 'evergreening' clause that grants drug companies a continued monopoly if they make slight changes to the drug (like creating a once-a-day dose where the original product was three times per day), they will never become generics."

There is no 'evergreening' clause in my legislation. There is in fact an 'anti-evergreening' clause which explicitly provides no new exclusivity period would be granted for "a change (not including a modification to the structure of the biological product) that results in a new indication, route of administration, dosing schedule, dosage form, delivery system, delivery device, or strength." My amendment prohibits by its plain language exactly what Ms. Hamsher alleges it would encourage.
Finally, Ms. Hamsher seems to be describing an alternative outcome which is pure fiction. She rightly complains about the high cost of many biologic treatments which can run into the tens of thousands of dollars per year, but she seems to indicate that these products would be readily affordable for patients, if only we would subscribe to the proposals of generic drug manufacturers and the insurance companies.

The cornerstone of the Kennedy-Eshoo legislation is to bring down the costs of today's biologics by bringing them into an era of biosimilars, just as Congress moved pharmaceutical drugs to generic drugs.

The House health care reform legislation thankfully and finally allows the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services to directly negotiate the costs of drugs and biologics for Medicare recipients.

I want to highlight a point on which Ms. Hamsher and I are in complete agreement:

"If an AIDS vaccine is found, it too will be a biologic."

She's absolutely correct -- if we develop an AIDS vaccine, a cure for cancer or diabetes, or an effective treatment for Alzheimer's, ALS, Parkinson's or countless other of our most horrific diseases, it will come through biotechnology. Each of these research pathways is difficult and costly, and will require billions of dollars in investment. If we undercut the incentives for this research, who exactly will invest in these life-saving biologics? Will we see companies shifting their resources to developing the next great erectile disfunction drug or cure for baldness?
I'm proud that the legislation that Senator Kennedy and I have worked on for over three years is included in the healthcare reform bills inn both legislative bodies. I'm proud to have this legislation endorsed by: The AIDS Institute, ALS Association, Alliance for Aging Research, American Autoimmune Related Diseases Association, Association of American Universities, Candlelighters Childhood Cancer Foundation, former Vermont Governor Howard Dean, M.D., Immune Deficiency Foundation, the National Alliance on Mental Illness and many other patient advocacy groups.

Our amendment passed by large bipartisan majorities in the House Energy & Commerce Committee (47 to 11) and the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension Committee (16 to 7). It is supported by ten governors who have written to the bipartisan congressional leadership supporting the amendment.

Ms. Hamsher attributes nefarious motives to this effort and the legislation. I fiercely disagree. It was carefully shaped and guided by Senator Kennedy and myself with the highest purposes of bringing life-saving biologics to include biosimilars, to save lives and to bring down the costs to every human being in our country who needs them.

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:32 PM
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1. Hamsher's ego has been running out of control.
Too much self importance, and too much self promotion. Unfortunately that's been happening with a lot of figures in the left wing blogosphere. They forget that the message is more important than the people.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:35 PM
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2. This article explains what the objections are about.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:39 PM
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4. Thanks for posting this, Phoebe.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:40 PM
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5. Thanks for the link.
"Rather than creating price-lowering competition, the Eshoo approach would establish extended monopoly protections totaling 12.5 years and exceeding the monopolies already conferred by patents, as well as imposing a series of needless hurdles for approval of generics. The proposal is competing with a pro-consumer bipartisan alternative offered by Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Henry Waxman of Los Angeles and Rep. Nathan Deal of Georgia. All major consumer groups involved in the issue support the Waxman-Deal approach, which would expedite generic competition.

The Obama administration recently indicated that seven years' data exclusivity is a "generous compromise" between the zero years recommended in a recent Federal Trade Commission report and the 14 years sought by Big Pharma. Traditional chemical drugs receive three or five years' data exclusivity under existing law.

Delaying generic competition for almost a decade and a half will cost consumers and the government tens of billions of dollars. Moreover, the other obstacles to generic competition in the Pharma-favored proposal might keep generic firms out of the market for biologics altogether."


Dean was pushing for the twelve year exclusivity when he was "gently" lobbying for a pharma company earlier this year. If Pharma is all for it they are most certainly screwing consumers.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:46 PM
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8. Hamsler is absolutely correct...this is a giveaway to Big Pharma
and has nothing at all to do with "reform."
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:53 PM
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10. +1 for your post.
-1 for the OP.

Biotech's argument that it must charge 22 times more on average for biologics than for conventional drugs because biologics cost more to develop is untrue. Studies frequently cited by the brand-name industry report the cost of producing brand-name conventional drugs is almost identical — $1.2 billion v. $1.3 billion. Brand-name companies charge so much simply because they can.

Rather than creating price-lowering competition, the Eshoo approach would establish extended monopoly protections totaling 12.5 years and exceeding the monopolies already conferred by patents, as well as imposing a series of needless hurdles for approval of generics. The proposal is competing with a pro-consumer bipartisan alternative offered by Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Henry Waxman of Los Angeles and Rep. Nathan Deal of Georgia. All major consumer groups involved in the issue support the Waxman-Deal approach, which would expedite generic competition.

The Obama administration recently indicated that seven years' data exclusivity is a "generous compromise" between the zero years recommended in a recent Federal Trade Commission report and the 14 years sought by Big Pharma. Traditional chemical drugs receive three or five years' data exclusivity under existing law.

Delaying generic competition for almost a decade and a half will cost consumers and the government tens of billions of dollars. Moreover, the other obstacles to generic competition in the Pharma-favored proposal might keep generic firms out of the market for biologics altogether.

Why would Congress consider such a windfall? Might it have something to do with Pharma's legion of lobbyists — paid more than $1 million a day?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:57 PM
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12. This "article" is as unfounded as Hamsher's
"Currently, there is no regulatory process for approval of generic versions of this class of pharmaceuticals, known as biologics." -- 100% false
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:04 PM
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13. I'll take the word of the non-partisan, non-industry-funded Essential Action
over the word of someone who is constantly shilling for corporate interests.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 06:38 PM
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16. And someone who has an abysmal track record in term of credibility.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:00 PM
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18. In other words, you'll ignore facts that hurt your agenda. Got it.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 07:48 AM
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19. Eshoo says exactly the same thing in her own piece
Edited on Sat Oct-31-09 07:55 AM by Phoebe Loosinhouse

skip
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/healthcare/65647-setting-the-record-straight-on-our-health-care-legislation-rep-anna-eshoo

My amendment to create a new pathway for approval of 'follow-on' versions of innovative biotechnology products, or 'biosimilars,' will not deny patients access to these miraculous treatments. In fact, my legislation, sponsored by the late Senator Edward Kennedy, will create for the first time in our country's history an FDA approval process for biosimilars to compete with innovative biologics.

Today, no expedited pathway for approval of a follow-on version of a biologic product exists.
There are only generic versions of traditional, small-molecule drugs. For biologics, any prospective competitor to a brand-name product would have to go through the same lengthy and expensive approval process and clinical trials as the original manufacturer. As a result, there is very little economic incentive to develop a competitive version of a successful biologic.


So what is 100% false? I read this as the terms "biosimilars" and "follow-on version of a biologic" "competitor for brand-name product" and "competitive version" as being stand-ins for the word "generic" which she seems to verify by saying "their are only generic versions of traditional, small molecule drugs".
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 08:31 AM
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20. It's implying that Eshoo's amendment doesn't address this issue. It does.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 08:44 AM
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22. Some real pretzel contortion there.
You said that the statement itself was 100% percent false. The statement is not false and Eshoo verifys that it is true in her own piece.

You then say the statement is false because it's "implying" that Eshoo's amendment doesn't address the issue. You are really appealing to morans with that. The statement is the precursor for the entire following discussion that compares HOW the Esho amendment addresses the issue as COMPARED to the Waxman amendment .

Just admit that YOUR statment was 100% false and get on with it.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 09:17 AM
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23. So, you are admitting that the Eshoo amendment does address this issue then.
Sounds like the only one pretzel twisting this are the ones applying emotional arguments like Hamsher.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 09:54 AM
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24. Let's recap
Edited on Sat Oct-31-09 09:58 AM by Phoebe Loosinhouse
1. You have an OP with Eshoo's response to Hamsher.
2. I posted a link to an article that explained what some people saw as the flaws in the Eshoo amendment
3. You posted a reply pulling out a single sentence saying that it was 100% false
4. I posted a reply pointing out that Eshoo says virtually the same thing in her own piece as the sentence you said was 100% false

5. You then take a complete left turn since you have nowhere to go in defending your original reply saying the single sentence is 100% false. NOW the sentence is false because it is implying that the Eshoo amendment doesn't address the issue you claimed was false in the first place. :crazy:

6. I point out that in fact the sentence you claimed was 100% false (which Eshoo says was not false) was the starting point for the discussion contained within that same article about HOW Eshoo addressed the situation (that you claimed was 100% false in the first place.)

7. Now with your piercing insight and amazing grasp of the obvious you would like me to "admit" something I never disputed - that Eshoo addresses an issue (which you claim never exisited in the first place.)

Is it that hard for you to just make a post that says

I was wrong when I said that "Currently, there is no regulatory process for approval of generic versions of this class of pharmaceuticals, known as biologics." -- 100% false.

I feel really sorry for you if that is the case. I never really paid to much attention to your posts before now, but now that I know how incredibly and stupidly invested you are in being "right" at all costs - I will probably pass them by.

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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 01:19 PM
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28. Depends on how you read it. That article is referring to the Eshoo/Kennedy amendment
and the outrage that derives from it. The problem with Hamsher and the link you posted is that the Eshoo/Kennedy does create a path for doing this. That's what this argument is about. You posted a misleading article that claims the Eshoo/Kennedy amendment won't address it. That's 100% wrong and you know that is what I ment.

Both of my sons lives are 100% dependent upon biologics. If I felt this amendment was wrong, I would speak up against it. Instead this amendment will make things much better and more affordable for us in the future. For those who attack it on emotional arguments, those are the ones I feel sorry for.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 02:39 PM
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29. You pulled out a single sentence and labeled it 100% false
which it wasn't and then you expect people to be able to devine all this other goobledygook you are posting and be mindreaders about what you are really talking about, which also doesn't pan out. Nobody anywhere is saying that the Eshoo amendment doesn't address the regulatory pathways for biologic generics - they're debating HOW it's addressed. That is a very short article and it's not that difficult to understand.

You appear to be reading without comprehension and posting without coherence. I throw in the towel at this point, I really do

BUT, I just have to add -
I love you now calling it the Eshoo/Kennedy amendment - the amendment itself says it's offered by Eshoo, Inslee and Barton. You must have noticed just as I did that Rep Ashoo invoked Kennedy's name so much as to be embarrassing in her response to Hamsher.





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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #29
35. You've gone way off topic, sorry. It's not worth arguing with you when you harp on one point.
The overall issue is here is the Eshoo/Kennedy amendment making things better or worse for patients dependent upon biologics. It makes things far better than they are now.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 03:44 PM
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40. It is NOT called the Eshoo/Kennedy amendment no matter how much you say that.nt
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 03:56 PM
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32. That was orignally an op-ed piece in the San Jose Mercury News
I only posted the Essential Action link when this issue first came up because the Merc had relegated it to the paid archives dungeon.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 04:06 PM
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33. Thanks for admitting it was only an op-ed piece. Too many here take it as fact.
It is not.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 07:49 PM
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36. An op-ed piece in a major metropolitan daily carries more weight than a post on an advocacy website
if you think the piece contains factual untruths, your beef is with the Merc:

LETTERS: To send a letter to the editor for publishing in the newspaper, send email to letters@mercurynews.com.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:37 PM
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3. I know too little about the underlying science or policy issues to comment intelligently, but
I'm giving this a kick and rec to facilitate its being seen and discussed by those who may know a lot more than I do about the germane issues.
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:41 PM
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6. K&R
Hamsher regularly accuses the most progressive democrats in Congress of lying and corruption. It's about time people stopped taking her seriously.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:45 PM
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7. And once again. without the facts of the matter, people here are running around
like their hair was on fire over this non-issue.

K&R
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:50 PM
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9. So we have to let them screw us over..
or they won't develop treatments?

Cures and vaccines were being developed long before they were seen as multi-billion dollar jackpots. Most biologic treatments are developed in government funded labs, anyhow. Since our tax dollars are paying for the bulk of the research, why shouldn't we allow more competition with biosimilars?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:55 PM
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11. Fact is there's still a patent extention for 12 years
which benefits NO ONE other than big PhARMA.
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pennylane100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:16 PM
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14. I do not know all the issues involved in the time limits before generics are available.
But one thing I would place money on is that whatever time big pharm is requesting to get return on investment is overstated.

I used to live in Eshoo's district and I liked most,and probably all, of her positions. I now live in carpetbagger McCormick's district so I would love to have her representing me instead but I also like Jane Ham sher and I think she has contributed a lot to the progressive movement.

Now I know this will get me lot's of hostile comments but (and I am only asking) is she being subjected to more scrutiny because of her gender. I say this because I know she is a breast cancer survivor and a generally well informed spokesperson for the progressive cause. I just wonder how two people I like can be so far apart on a very important issue.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 06:04 PM
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15. Hamsher will treat you with intelligence and respect -
unless and until you question her facts or judgement.

I watched her throw someone off FDL in the early years for suggesting a slang word for female genitalia wasn't appropriate on a blog so heavily populated with wonderful women.

The sweetie-pie act you see on television these days is nothing like the foul-mouthed my-way-or-the-highway behavior I saw before I stopped going to FDL.

This is off-topic, but I also don't care for people who phone in campaign progress while driving 90 mph on a Connecticut highway and thinking it's really funny.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 08:36 AM
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21. she said the other day she was a THREE TIME survivor
so she's probably scared shitless what she'll do if and when it recurs..
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GrilledCheeses Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:29 PM
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17. How did people writing laws come up with a twelve year exclusivity?
Honestly curious.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 11:28 AM
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25. Because that's what it is now for patents. After a company develops
a new drug they have 12 years of patent exclusivity before it can go generic in order to recoup their R&D expenditures and make a profit. Otherwise the companies would stop developing new drugs.

Whether 12 years is an appropriate timeline is a matter of some contention. To me, it sounds like an awfully long time. But I assume it would really depend on the amount required for R&D and the sales of the drug. Although, that would also affect the pricing of the drug during it's exclusivity.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 12:09 PM
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26. It is not about the patents, the protest is against the 12 year data exclusivity amendment....
Biotech lobbyists cast their nets
Biotech firms lobby for say on healthcare

http://sandbox.pnhp.org/news/2009/july/biotech-lobbyists-cast-their-nets

"...The vote on the data exclusivity amendment was covered in a qotd last week, at the link above. More background information is provided by Lisa Wangsness in her Boston Globe article. Because of the implications for the reform process unfolding in Washington, we are taking a second look.

Having a twenty year patent on a biological that can command a one hundred thousand dollar price tag is not enough for the biotech firms. They also want a 12 year lead time before competitors can begin to use the data, produced in our academic medical centers, for developing new innovative drugs or even generic equivalents. This doesn't change the 20 year patent exclusivity, but it requires future competitors to wait 12 years before beginning their research that would be based on the existing data..."



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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 02:50 PM
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30. Currently, data exclusivity is infinite. This limits it to 12 years.
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/healthcare/65647-setting-the-record-straight-on-our-health-care-legislation-rep-anna-eshoo

It's important to note that today there is absolutely no restriction on data exclusivity -- it's effectively infinite. Competitors are never permitted to use the data produced by a brand-name biologic manufacturer. The Kennedy-Eshoo legislation brings this exclusivity down from forever to 12 years, in essence laying the groundwork for the creation of the biosimilar industry, new competition for the biotechnology industry, and reduced prices for patients.


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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 03:48 PM
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31. Waxman was working on this as well, his version had 5 years....
There were other versions and the Obama administration recommended 7 years as a compromise.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=waxman+amendment+%2B+biologics&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

Also Jane Hamsher has a first post response to Eshoo's article.

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/10/31/amsa-med-students-visit-anna-eshoos-office/

by Jane Hamsher

"The pearl clutchers don’t seem to understand that Eshoo’s amendment replaced Waxman’s which was originally part of the health care bill. That already had a pathway for generics, but it was much better for patients. And since they swallow their information in one load from Eshoo with a chaser from professional PhRMA operatives who don’t bring it up, they don’t even realize that Obama himself was opposed to it.

So whatever they say about me? Well, double down for the President:

In the debate over establishing a regulatory pathway for biologics, the White House recommended this week to limit data exclusivity for biologics to seven years, according to a Reuters report. Reuters reported that the Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag and Nancy-Ann DeParle, director of the White House Health Reform Office, sent a letter to Representative Henry Waxman (D-CA), chair of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, whose committee is considering biosimilar legislation, stating that seven years “strikes the appropriate balance between innovation and competition.” As would be expected, supporters of limiting exclusivity such as the Generic Pharmaceutical Association (GPhA) applauded the proposal while the Biotechnology Industry Organization (BIO) raised concerns.

As discussed in PharmTech’s blog, the debate on data exclusivity for biologics was intensified with the release of a Federal Trade Commission (FTC) report earlier this month that said that the 12–14 years of regulatory exclusivity for biologics was too long to promote innovation particularly since innovator-drug firms would likely retain substantial market share after the entry of a follow-on biologic (FOB), according to an FTC press release.


I guess Obama “doesn’t understand the bill,” either..."


Happy Halloween...out for now!

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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 04:08 PM
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34. It's still not too late. Eshoo's amendment was for HR 3200. The
new bill is HR 3962. To my knowledge, it does not have any amendments re: biologics or biosimilars. We can still push for Waxman's version.

Of course, that doesn't guarantee it will be in the House/Senate final bill.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:12 AM
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37. Page 1537 in the new House bill...
http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

"‘‘(7) EXCLUSIVITY FOR REFERENCE PROD11
UCT.—
12 ‘‘(A) EFFECTIVE DATE OF BIOSIMILAR AP13
PLICATION APPROVAL.—Approval of an applica14
tion under this subsection may not be made ef15
fective by the Secretary until the date that is
16 12 years after the date on which the reference
17 product was first licensed under subsection (a)."



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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 03:25 PM
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38. Thank you for posting that. It wasn't in the summaries I read. BUT
it's still not too late to add an amendment changing that clause to 7 years or even 5 years.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 03:34 PM
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39. You're welcome, rumors are that the Dems are considering not allowing...
Edited on Sun Nov-01-09 03:34 PM by slipslidingaway
amendments, I just searched the bill for exclusivity.




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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 12:16 PM
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27. That is what the industry wanted...
http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/07/14/senate-help-amendment-on-data-exclusivity/

NVCA Study Supports 12-Year Data Exclusivity Period
By Donald Zuhn
Patent Docs
Biotech & Pharma Patent Law & News Blog
July 13, 2009

On Friday, the National Venture Capital Association (NVCA) released the results of a study suggesting that “a data exclusivity period of at least 12 years for innovator products is a critical fulcrum in the effort to balance cost with the preservation of biotech innovation.”


Sen. Tom Harkin: Keep in mind what we’re talking about here. We’re not talking about patents. Everybody gets a 20 year patent… What we’re talking about here is data, data exclusivity… How do you get that data? You get it through FDA supervised trials… Where do they do those clinical trials? Academic health centers. Who supports academic health centers? Our taxpayers… When should that data be released so that another company out there, some other entrepreneurs, can look at the data and say… I’ll bet if we changed this and did this, we might come up with a new formulation that might actually help something else. They’re still going to have to go through their clinical trials… At least they’ll be able to look at the data. If you don’t do that that means that the company can sit on that data for 12 years. Then they let the data out. Clinical trials will take another 7 years or more, so you’re going to have at least a whole 20 year run in there… before anyone can ever surface with anything even comparable to what that drug or that biologic is..."


Another article...

How Drug-Industry Lobbyists Got Their Way on Health Care
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1931595-2,00.html


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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 04:06 PM
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41. California Healthcare Institute "advancing California biomedical research" thanks Eshoo

http://www.chi.org/basicpage.aspx?id=6034
CHI Supports Eshoo Amendment
Submitted on: 07.31.2009

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“CHI—California Healthcare Institute, whose more than 250 members include our state’s leading research institutes and universities, venture capital firms and biotechnology, medical device and diagnostics companies, applauds the approval of the amendment to the America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009, by Reps. Anna Eshoo (D, CA) creating a pathway for FDA approval of biosimilars, which promotes both price competition and continued biotechnology innovation.

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“CHI supported Congresswoman Eshoo’s earlier legislation (HR 1548, the Pathway for Biosimilars Act) because it appropriately and thoughtfully met these standards. The amendment adopted today, based upon HR 1548 and the biosimilars amendment recently adopted with overwhelming, bipartisan support at the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee, incorporates important elements of both and will ensure a pathway benefiting both patients and the innovative life sciences community, which in California employs more than 270,000 people and which has more than 900 products in the pipeline addressing cancer, central nervous system disorders, cardiovascular disease, infectious diseases, immunological and inflammatory disorders and diabetes and other metabolic disorders.


“Specifically, the basis of the HELP proposal, offered by Senators Hagan, Hatch and Enzi and supported by Chairman Kennedy and a dozen other Republican and Democratic members of the committee, provides for 12 years of data exclusivity for innovator biologics. We are pleased the amendment approved today similarly provides for 12 years of data exclusivity as well as the identical FDA regulatory pathway framework from the HELP measure. We are also pleased that the amendment includes important patent dispute resolution provisions from HR 1548 that would establish an equitable framework for exchanging information among innovator manufacturers, biosimilar manufacturers and third-party patent holders, such as universities and private research institutes whose scientific breakthroughs are often licensed to the private sector for commercial development.





http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1931595-1,00.html

How Drug-Industry Lobbyists Got Their Way on Health Care
By Karen Tumulty and Michael Scherer Thursday, Oct. 22, 2009

In Congress, committee chairmen are known as the old bulls for a reason: it's unwise to provoke them. So it isn't often that you see one get rolled by his own committee — especially when the chairman in question is the formidable and canny Henry Waxman and the issue in question is one that matters a lot to him. But that was what happened on July 31 as the House Energy and Commerce Committee was putting the final touches on health-reform legislation. Waxman's fellow California Democrat Anna Eshoo offered a last-minute amendment that Waxman opposed. Knowing he would lose, Waxman decided to save face with a quick voice vote. But Eshoo insisted on a roll call, which would put every member on record. Waxman snapped at her, "You promised you wouldn't do that!" The final tally was 47-11 against the chairman.

Waxman's loss that day was a big victory for drug companies, which have spent more than any other segment of the medical industry to make sure that they come out winners in the effort to overhaul the nation's health-care system. It's understandable the drugmakers would want a roll-call accounting of who their friends and enemies are, considering the size of the investment they are making on Capitol Hill: in the first six months of this year alone, drug and biotech companies and their trade associations spent more than $110 million — that's about $609,000 a day — to influence lawmakers, according to figures compiled by the nonpartisan watchdog group Center for Responsive Politics. The drug industry's legion of registered lobbyists numbers 1,228, or 2.3 for every member of Congress. And its campaign contributions to current members of Waxman's committee have totaled $2.6 million over the past three years.

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Waxman had pushed to shield biologics for no more than five years — the same amount of time that traditional pharmaceuticals get under the Hatch-Waxman law. President Obama proposed seven years as a compromise.

Eshoo's successful amendment to the Energy and Commerce Committee bill would extend that to 12 years of exclusivity, as would legislation passed a few weeks earlier by the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee. Then-chairman Ted Kennedy, whose state of Massachusetts is home to many biotech firms, had long supported a 12-year exclusivity period. The industry showed its gratitude last year when Amgen, one of the biggest biotech firms, donated $5 million — twice the size of the next largest donation — to a nonprofit educational institute being built in Kennedy's honor.


Please read the whole Time piece, it is well worth it.


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42. kick! lots of info in this thread.
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