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bunnysoft Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:12 AM
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The Karzais: "leftists" invented news of CIA's relationship with Ahmed Karzai
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 11:19 AM by bunnysoft
This Daily Beast interview with the Karzai brothers a couple of days ago went largely unreported.

According to Afghan President Hamid Karzai and his Ahmed, a recent New York Times' story (written by Dexter Filkins, Mark Mazzetti and James Risen) about Ahmed's employment with the CIA is part of a "far-left" smear campaign:

“We (the Karzais) are being harassed by The New York Times' . This is a smear campaign. James Risen has a vendetta against us. And the Times is obviously being fed by the far-left lobbyist groups who are paying them to do this. These leftists want Afghanistan destabilized, they want the Karzais out of power so there is a vacuum, and then they can say it is such a mess that the Americans should abandon the country. This is a coordinated plan, have no doubt about it.”


Shouldn't these two be worrying about helping conduct clean elections instead?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:14 AM
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1. looks like they get their talking points from Cheney?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:15 AM
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2. Karzai is another Chalabi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Chalabi

A CIA recruited puppet shipped into the country without any base of popular support amongst his people.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:46 AM
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4. More like Chalabi wishes he were Karzai. nt
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:48 AM
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5. Karzai is the President of Kabul
Outside of Kabul he has no power.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 12:23 PM
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9. And Chalabi is the president of what? nt
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 12:25 PM
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10. Baghdad
In October 2007, Chalabi was appointed by Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki to head the Iraqi services committee, a consortium of eight service ministries and two Baghdad municipal posts tasked with the "surge" plan's next phase, restoring electricity, health, education and local security services to Baghdad neighborhoods.<24> "The key is going to be getting the concerned local citizens — and all the citizens — feeling that this government is reconnected with them....
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 02:48 PM
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11. I stand corrected.
I just always assumed that chalabi had devolved into nothing more into a hanger on.

It kind of scares me now knowing he's in a power position in Iraq. Ugh.

Yeah, the mayor of kabul is trying his best to be mr. big pants and he's failing miserably.

Thanks for the correction. :)

Cheers.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 12:05 PM
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7. when he lived in this country, didn't he work for a large oil company?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 12:08 PM
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8. Don't know
His brother owns a Afghan restaruant in Baltimore.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 03:15 PM
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13. It is only his brother who is rumoured to be on teh payroll of the CIA
something he denies. Karzai has run an exceptionally corrupt government, but it is not clear there is a better alternative.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:16 AM
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3. Does Karzai ever remove that green cape?
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 11:31 AM by aint_no_life_nowhere
I'd hate to think what it smells like under there. To me, he looks more like a King than a man of the people.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 11:58 AM
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6. Wow, it's like listening to a FAUX talking head
"far-left lobbying groups"? Really?

And notice the TOTAL ABSENCE of a reply to the actual substance of the article. Deny, deny, deny.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 03:11 PM
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12. they know how to talk to us all right
now we'll do everything possible to avoid being labeled leftists. And we don't care what goes down too--truth, honor, practicality--fuck all that. He called us leftists. Nobvosy can call us leftists and get away with it.

Time to jail the New York Times.

we are so upside down nowadays...
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