How Vegetarian are you?

[TheCoxwain]

I understand there are no absolutes ... but just many shades of gray....

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

1. I Hate Veggies. Veggies Are For The Meat I Eat!

Long live steak!!!!!

[HughMoran]

48. Big deal

Who cares - why must you be a dunderhead?

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[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

73. Obviously You Do.

:hi:

[HughMoran]

76. I like gummy bears!

Long live guminess!

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[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

75. Oh Noes!!!! You're Gonna Bring Me To Tears By Throwing My Wife's Death In My Face!!!

I mean, it's not like I haven't felt the impact of it every day of my life since or anything, so your reminder just TOTALLY refreshed my mind to a tragedy that up until right now, upon seeing your little dumbass comment, I had all but COMPLETELY forgotten about! But man, now that I read it, I just can't avoid remembering that oh my god! My wife died! That's right!

(And really... A completely irrelevant vegetarian thread and yet that's all it takes for you to stoop so low as to use the epitome of personal tragedy to try and tear someone apart by throwing their spouses DEATH in their face? Any idea how much of an absolute piece of shit that makes you look like?)

[xchrom]

2. a little sauteed broccollini under a nice rib-eye. mashed potatoes

with butter. and a red wine reduction with shallots and mushrooms.

[Individualist]

8. You just made my mouth water!

[Barack_America]

68. How 'bout a little Borscht with sour cream, followed by cheese & potato perogies...

...served with homemade Honeycrisp applesauce?

Not bad either, eh?

[xchrom]

79. put a little sausage in those perogies!!! nt

[Petrushka]

94. Beef brisket in the borscht? Yeah!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_g1ZhvK1Hb_U/ScKV41jI_1I/AAAAAAAACS0/1AzHOI0YgvA/S860-R/spam83.bmp

[Hell Hath No Fury]

3. LOV working hard to go V --

If I had complete control over how I got my dairy and eggs I would be comfortable eating them, but until I get my own cow and hens I am going off that stuff. :(

[Echo In Light]

4. I eat meat on a reg basis, and enjoy my veggies as well

[skip fox]

5. How many lives to support one life?

n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

12. As Many As It Takes.

n/t

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

25. what do you mean by this? n/t

[toocoolforschool]

6. i need my protein!!!!

[ET Awful]

21. And? Soy, beans, nuts, etc. are extremely high in protein.

What does needing protein have to do with it?

Tempeh, tofu, wheat gluten, TVP, all very high in protein. Needing protein has little to no bearing on whether someone should be vegan, vegetarian or omniverous.

[PatGund]

30. Which is nice...........

.....if one isn't allergic to soy.

However, soy allergies are one of the top eight food allergies out there. Not to mention people with Celiac disease who can't handle wheat gluten.

Furthermore, there are people, (myself for one), who simply cannot digest most forms of non-animal proteins. Animal and fungus protein is about it for me.

So what are our options?

[ET Awful]

35. Did you read my entire post or just stop at "soy"?

I didn't criticize anyone who eats animals BTW, what I pointed out was that "I need protein" does NOT exclude a non-animal diet.

[PatGund]

43. Did you notice.....

That I also included gluten allergies (since you mentioned wheat gluten on your list).

[superduperfarleft]

44. I know vegans with celiac.

:shrug:

[demwing]

54. As with any environemntal concern, minimize your footprint

within your ability. If you can't eat "X" don't eat "X"

If any vegetarian gets aggressive with you over that, suggest they've been sneaking too many hamburgers and need to veg out for a month to get back on the relax track :)

[LeftyMom]

61. It's certainly do-able.

A former coworker of mine is vegan, has celiac and is allergic to soy. I'm pretty sure she's not lacking in anything either, because her degree is in nutrition.

Best bet, when one has multiple challenges like that, (whether vegan or not) is to consult a qualified dietitian.

[smalll]

85. There's nothing wrong with beans and nuts, but soy has estrogen in it.

This is why soy-based products may be good sources of protein for women, but not for men. I'm assuming that "tempeh" as well as tofu is soy-based.

[Bonn1997]

70. You'll get healthier, leaner sources of protein if you give up the meat...

Egg is the most complete protein available. Milk and cottage cheese are complete proteins. Beans + bread would be too. Vegetarians and vegans are healthier than most meat eaters. And innocent animals don't have to die just so that you can have fun eating burgers.

[tabbycat31]

7. I probably only eat meat once or twice a week

I do consume dairy daily and eggs on occasion (I don't like straight eggs but will eat them in cooking)

[DJ13]

9. Im wondering, does "other" represent cannibalism?

[TheCoxwain]

13. well -- so far atleast 2 people have selected it .. so maybe they can explain it

I added it to the poll as no poll is complete without it

[mdmc]

10. I've been off meat since 6-10-09, except for bacon

three times since 6-10-09 I've had bacon, egg, and cheese sandwiches for breakfast.

I try hard to be vegan.

[Rebubula]

14. Don't worry...

...Bacon does not count as a meat.

It is a gift of love from the universal goddess that transcends human definition.

[mdmc]

18. yet I feel guilt

:(

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

24. I'm curious, why do you "try hard to be a vegan"?

It seems like something that should naturally come to some people who live that way.
Sort of a "you are what you are" kind of philosophy"

[mdmc]

29. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis

my doc suggested that I get off sugar, caffeine, white bread, dairy, and red meat.

I don't really like red meat, and I've always had a hard time eating flesh. Any flesh. (I worked in a meat packing plant back in the day and it has scared me to some extent).

I've had a hard time giving up sugar, dairy, and caffeine. Everything else has been kinda easy.

The more fruit, veggies, and water I drink, the better I feel. The less pain I have..

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

32. Ahh gotcha!

I've just seen people who are truely vegan claim to hard time doing so and was confused.
Makes sense. I try not to eat red meat either. I stick to chicken and fish mostly.

[JuniperLea]

59. Have you looked into any of the newer anti-inflammatory diets?

I hear they work very well.

[mdmc]

86. Yes I have

do you have any links to turn me on to?

I have found that the more veggies and fruit I eat, the better I feel.
Everything else (sugar, coffee, white bread, dairy, meat) makes me hurt..

[JuniperLea]

89. No, I wish I did...

Just what pops up on Google... and there seems to be a lot more of it these days.

[mdmc]

91. I'll look more later

I know that if I stay away from processed sugar and coffee I feel a lot better..
peace and low stress :)

[JuniperLea]

92. Sugar makes me ache all over...

That was a tough one for me. I am a chocoholic! I've found some very good quality sugar free chocolate, so I'm cool now:)

[mdmc]

93. I tried vegan chocolate as well

I have a hard time with chocolate, and coffee (with milk)..
these are the two things I struggle with.
Giving up red meat was very, very easy for me..

[Blue_In_AK]

11. I eat a balanced diet

that includes meat/chicken/fish in moderate amounts, mostly chicken and fish. I also eat a lot of veggies and fruit, not so much grain because it makes me gain weight.

[onehandle]

15. I chose Lacto-Ovo-Pisco, but 95% of the time, I'm Vegan+ some seafood. nt

[uppityperson]

16. other. Eat animals every couple days, eat vegetables, cheese and eggs regularly

I was going to write "meat", but looking at your choices, you seem to mean land based 4 footed animals as "meat" and I eat poultry, fish, shellfish as well as those.

[kenny blankenship]

17. Vegetarians eat plants. Plants sequester carbon and produce oxygen. If you really want to be green

kill vegetarians.

[NeedleCast]

31. +1

[ET Awful]

19. Well. . . I eat mostly vegetables, on rare occasion I'll eat fish.

I do eat cheese regularly, and eggs once in a while.

However, the eggs and cheese come only from sources I know. For instance, we have a friend who has chickens, we only get eggs from her and one or two local family farmstand type places. The cheese I only get from small farms who raise their own cows, etc.

Yes, I do feel a bit guilty about the cheese once in a while because no matter how you look at it, buying dairy contributes to the veal industry in the long run.

I do NOT eat beef, chicken, pork, etc . . . basically the only "flesh" I eat is fish.

[zonkers]

20. pesco ovo lacto -- that's me. No lobster. No overfished seafood. Sardines, yum.

[Dorian Gray]

22. I'm not a vegetarian

but I eat quite a few vegetarian meals a week. I try not to eat meat at every meal. Lots of tofu in my diet, and also lots of seafood, veggies, fruits, whole grains, etc.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

23. Vegetables are what food eats. n/t

[DireStrike]

26. I eat a lot of meat. Probably too much.

Don't really know how to deal with vegetables. The non-meat part of my diet is mostly grain. Pasta, bread, rice.

Ultimately I would like to eat no meat, but still eggs and dairy products from responsible farmers. It's not high on my priority list though. I just choose from what I have at hand.

[yawnmaster]

27. I like bacon. eom

[Lucy Goosey]

28. I don't eat meat at home.

I eat at restaurants maybe 3-4 times a month, and I sometimes order meat.

[natrat]

33. i don't eat meat. But get a couple beers in me and i cant resist a bite of good bbq or steak

[flvegan]

34. Vegan.

[ET Awful]

37. Hehehe who woulda thunk?

With a name like that :P

[flvegan]

40. Aha, but

I could be a black-ops figure for Big Bacon here to infiltrate!

[beam me up scottie]

46. Ask him to post his pic!

:P is right!

Totally destroys the myth that athletes and body builders need meat to compete.

[ET Awful]

63. There are at least two champion weightlifters I know of that are vegan

:)

[beam me up scottie]

80. Good guys to have on your side.

Whether you're an animal or a hooman.

[lukasahero]

36. Wait - are you suggesting one can eat chicken but still consider themselves

some kind of "vegetarian"? You have "meat" listed separately from chicken? Since when is chicken not meat? If it's not meat - what exactly is it?

[superduperfarleft]

38. You never heard of the chicken tree?

It's in the same family as the fish tree, the shrimp tree, the leather tree, etc. etc. etc.

[lukasahero]

41. Actually, I think I understand now

They're using the word "Pullo" but I think they only mean chicken eggs. (Still not sure - keep re-reading to understand...)

Thanks for the laugh though. :D

[glen123098]

39. Not vegetarian at all.

I eat meat all the time. But I think eating meat is wrong, I just don't have the willpower to stop.

[Occam Bandage]

42. I'm a lacto-pisco-ovo-pollo-porco-manzo-vegetarian.

[Vinca]

45. I eat meat, but I could probably adapt to a vegetarian diet

as long as I could still eat cheese and eggs and use other dairy products. I can't imagine trying to plan a menu for the day without them, especially since I don't eat soy products.

[catzies]

47. No box fits me. No red meat or poultry, but eggs/dairy/fish

:shrug:

[TheCoxwain]

50. That would be Lacto Ovo Pisco

[Ignis]

55. That'd be choice #4, "Lacto-Ovo-Pisco ( Above + Sea Food)"

Unless you're differentiating fish from seafood? :shrug:

[Arugula Latte]

49. I don't think I've had red meat (well, not intentionally, anyway) since I was about 16.

I'm 43 now.

[Ohio Joe]

51. Can't live without it - nt

[TheCoxwain]

53. Veggies?? Or Meat??

[Ohio Joe]

62. heh, sorry :D Meat

[HughMoran]

52. I eat just enough meat to allow my vegetables to taste better and digest without excessive gas

I love vegetables, but I really love grilled chicken or broiled fish on a salad. I don't actually know why I rarely eat meat, but with my cholesterol level as high as it is, it's probably for the best.

[TommyO]

56. I'm definitely a shade of gray

I'm an omnivore, but eat less meat than I used to. I have a nice stock of vegetarian/vegan prepared food options in my freezer from Morningstar Farms (I love the BBQ Riblets, it's like a McRib sandwich without the cackling clown) and Field Roast, along with plenty of fresh veggies, beans, rice, pasta and other goodies.

That said, tonight it's a very un-veggie Quiche Lorraine.

[pipi_k]

57. totally cannot eat beef anymore

after seeing a beautiful little beef bull at a county fair three years ago.

and I had just eaten a cheeseburger minutes before... :(


I do eat chicken, turkey and pork but am getting turned off of pork lately, also.

I prefer sea food to meat anyway.


Oh, and beans....lots and lots of beans...


um...and birthday cake. Is that vegetarian? :7

[JuniperLea]

58. I eat a very balance diet...

Two dairy servings, two fruit, three veggie, one or two servings of whole grains, and one or two small portions of meat a day.

This after extensive research and much guidance from several nutritionists.

I tried going pure veg and I seriously hurt myself... not on my own, mind you, but under the guidance of several nutritionists and my doctor. I ate exactly the correct portions of whole grains and legumes, and still my hair fell out, I suffered severe migraines, my skin and teeth went to hell.

I'm all better now, thank you.

[LeftyMom]

60. I've been vegan for eight years and change.

:shrug:

[AllieB]

64. I eat food from local farms and seasonally.

I eat mostly vegetables, fish, poultry, a little beef and lamb: all locally produced, free range, hormone-free, etc. I was vegetarian then vegan for 10+ years, but am healthier on my current diet. Everyone's body is different, some people thrive on the vegetarian diet, others don't, despite advice from true believers to 'consult a dietician'.

There is rarely any intelligent discussion around the real problems of farming methods that destroy entire ecosystems to produce monocrops like soy, wheat, and corn, and the horrors of factory farming. Everyone's dietary choices have impact on the environment. Unless you grow your own vegetables, soy, corn, etc., or live in a place where these crops are grown locally, you're part of the problem.

[and-justice-for-all]

66. No Milk, but I eat cheese, eggs, chicken and turkey...

no pork or red meat.

[Bonn1997]

71. Vegetarian for two months--considering veganism. This article changed my outlook on food, animals,

and in many ways, life itself.
http://www.understandingprejudice.org/pdf/animals.pdf?logged=true

[Mind_your_head]

72. Lacto-Ovo-Pisco (sort of/mostly)

One of my teenage kids went Lacto-Ovo-Pisco for Lent this past spring and 'hasn't gone back'. Sooooo, in order to make meals that will satisfy the family we're ALL pretty much Lacto-Ovo-Pisco. On occasion, myself or the other family members will have a steak or some bacon or sausage. Additionally, there is just no substitute for a chicken broth or chicken soup in some instances. Vegetable broth just doesn't have the depth of flavor that a chicken broth does. No more lunch meat - cheese, veggies, fruit, bread, hummus, etc. in our lunches. Overall, our meat consumption is waaaaaaaaay down from just a year ago. I consider that pretty good progress.

[bvar22]

74. My wife and I felt is was more beneficial...

...to eat FRESH food that contains no pesticides, herbicides, growth hormones, antibiotics, preservatives, fillers, artificial flavoring, high fructose corn syrup, packaging contaminents, or other "inert" ingredients.

We moved to The Woods in 2006 and started growing our own after discovering that vendors at the Farmers Markets will frequently use even more pesticides, herbicides, and chem fertilizers than a commercial farmer, especially if their small crop is threatened.
Some will then tell you to your face, "Sure. Everything her is "organic" (whatever that means to them).



We also keep pastured chickens for eggs.
We avoid "packaged" foods as much as possible, buy in bulk and cook from scratch.

Our diet has naturally shifted away from meats to veggies, grains, fruits, and berries, but we aren't religious.
We occasionally sin .
What would life be without some occasional New Orleans SeaFood, Memphis BBQ, REAL Mexican, Classic Italian, or Chinese? :shrug:

[Harry Monroe]

77. Veggies are a side dish with my steak!!

A medium rare ribeye that I've marinated and grilled myself steamed broccoli and an ear of corn!! My little piece of heaven. Now I'm suddenly hungry!!

[Raine]

78. I never eat meat, seafood or poultry

but I eat dairy products like cheese & ice cream.

[beam me up scottie]

81. #2 Lacto - Vegetarian 16+ years

[TheCoxwain]

83. Good for you ....

[beam me up scottie]

84. Thank you for hosting such an excellent thread!

I almost NEVER respond to threads about vegetarianism because they usually end up like this:

[Common Sense Party]

82. What are these "vegetables" of which you speak?

They get in the way of my steak.

[JerseygirlCT]

87. I don't eat red meat

but that's less about high-mindedness and more about learning how it disagrees with me. I never much cared for it, anyway.

I like fish and shellfish and poultry, though. Even there, those are likely to be a part of my daily diet 1-3 times a week.

Don't try to pry the cheese and milk from my hands, though!

[TheKentuckian]

88. I'm an omnivore but could probably give up red meat if it wasn't for the need

for a steak. Still, I scoff at the notion of giving up fish and poultry, that's stuff I'm willing to kill myself if need be but the beef is a bit of a heartstring jerker for me and seems like a cousin of cannibalism to me.

[rd_kent]

90. I am so far opposite, I eat the vegans share of meat too......

[cherokeeprogressive]

95. Meat just isn't right without the accompaniment of some al dente veggies.

If I could only have one of the two, and were forced to choose, gimme some meat!