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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:59 AM
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BlueCrossBlueShield plea to customers about Health Care reform hits a raw nerve
Raleigh News and Observer 10/28/2009
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local_state/story/161435.html



Maybe it was just lousy timing, but many customers of Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina are ticked off at the mail they've received recently from the state's largest insurer.
First, they learned their rates will rise by an average of 11 percent next year.

Next, they opened a slick flier from the insurer urging them to send an enclosed pre-printed, postage-paid note to Sen. Kay Hagan denouncing what the company says is unfair competition that would be imposed by a government-backed insurance plan. The so-called public option is likely to be considered by Congress in the health-care overhaul debate.
"No matter what you call it, if the federal government intervenes in the private health insurance market, it's a slippery slope to a single-payer system," the BCBS flier read. "Who wants that?"
Plenty of people, it turns out.

Indignant Blue Cross customers have rebelled against the insurer's message, complaining that their premium dollars have funded such a campaign.
They've hit the Internet in a flurry of e-mails to friends and neighbors throughout the state. They've called Hagan's office to voice support for a public option. They've marked through the Blue Cross message on their postcards to instead vouch support, then dropped them in the mail -- in at least one case taped to a brick -- to be paid on Blue Cross' dime. Or dimes.
"I hope it backfires," said Mark Barroso, a documentary film maker in Chatham County who is a Blue Cross customer and recipient of the mailings. "I'm doing everything I can to make sure it does."
Barroso said his friends and neighbors have united to subvert the insurer's message. Residents of a neighborhood in Durham have lit up an online chat room with discussion of little else.
"I went sort of bonkers," said Beth Silberman of Durham. "You're hostage to them, and then they pull this. My new premiums are funding lobbying against competition. It's pretty disgusting."
Not going over well

A spokesman in Hagan's office, David Hoffman, said the postcards have not yet begun arriving in the senator's office because of the mail screening process, but he said lots of people have been calling to voice outrage at the insurer's tactics.
Lew Borman, a Blue Cross spokesman, said he wasn't sure how many people got the flier urging them to contact Hagan, but he said the mailing relied on voter registration records, not a customer list.
Since the company controls more than half of the state's health insurance market, there was unavoidable overlap.
Borman declined to reveal how much money the insurer paid for the mailing. Blue Cross is a nonprofit, so its finances are not as open as public companies.
He acknowledged the timing was unfortunate, coming as the firm typically sends its annual notices about rate increases. But he said the two mailings were coincidental, hinged to current events in Washington.

"We said from the beginning we were going to be involved and would tell North Carolinians what kind of impact the health-care proposals would have, and that's what we've been doing," Borman said.
Jenny Warburg, a freelance photojournalist in Durham, said she wishes she could switch insurance carriers over the issue, but no other company will cover her.
So she's stuck, and that makes her even madder.
"You're over a barrel," she said. "You have no choice."
And that, she said, is exactly what Blue Cross is eager to protect.
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:06 AM
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1. the answer is

non profit health insurance!
the fox has guarded the chicken house to long!
just think what we can do if the repukes keep fighting reform -for profit!
we can all drop our policies and use the emergency rooms! let the fat cats pick up the tab!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:11 AM
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4. And after trips to the ER, we can in the lobbies of Chamber of Commerce offices
Nothing like hacking coughs and oozing sores to make the idiots see what their blind loyalty to big business really means to small, local ones. :evilgrin:
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:15 AM
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6. Minnesota has non-profit HMOs and they're as bad as the rest.
We need single payer universal health care.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #6
12. BC/BS non-profit CEO
in Ohio makes $24million/year.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:27 PM
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26. Exactly right!
"Non-profit" apparently doesn't mean much. I imagine you just have to cook the books a little differently.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:23 PM
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36. They have a special classification made just for them as a non-profit.
They don't qualify for the real non-profit status. But the special classification allows them to call themselves a non-profit.


And there are non-profits such as SOME United Ways (that failed to operate correctly) and the Red Cross that have also made a mockery of non-profits by abuse of their finances and paying outrageous salaries to their CEO's or other executive officers.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 12:10 AM
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53. In some states, BC/BS most certainly is for-profit
In every sense of the term. BC/BC is more like a brand that is franchised out locally and some of the franchises are owned by for-profit organizations. Here in Texas, BC/BS is a mutual. I have no idea what they are in NC, but what they do there doesn't necessarily reflect on BC/BS as a whole because most states are independent of each other as far as how they are owned and operated.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:20 AM
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8. BCBS is non-profit. All that does is shield their books from scrutiny
& prevent us from knowing how much these vile effing scumbags spend on lobbying. We should raid their offices and steal their records :mad:
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:11 PM
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22. This same non-profit has huge, ultra-modern office buildings,
huge executive payrolls ad infinitum. Non-profit my foot!
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #1
18. You didn't read the article.
The company that did this is a non-profit.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. the company is a non-profit
but their CEOs aren't.
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Daemonaquila Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 08:22 AM
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57. That means nothing.
Non-profit insurers are all over the place, raking in huge amounts of money and paying the top management crazy salaries, building lavish facilities, etc. I have BCBS. I like their insurance better than anything else on the market. That doesn't mean they're not a bunch of pigs like the rest, and I have no illusions that they're one iota more ethical in how they deal with their customers.
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:03 PM
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51. Not exactly
Since they got rid of real bankruptcy for individuals (not businesses, just people) you will just owe a debt to the hospital, so they will own a piece of your future income, so that if you weren't struggling to get by before, you will be now.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:09 AM
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2. Excellent!
It is great to read that the action taken by DUers and others is growing!

Thanks for posting this, it is much appreciated!

Recommended.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:11 AM
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3. They must think North Carolinians are stupid.
First, here's your premium hike. Now call your Congressperson to ensure our stranglehold on raising your rates.

I hope you contacted BCBS and told them how you feel.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
32. Rather counter their request
and call your new Democratic Senator and tell her to vote for the Public Option. That will fix them.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:13 AM
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5. Thanks for finding that, Mira. I had not seen it.
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 09:34 AM by Hissyspit
I was hoping this would get move coverage beyond DU and Daily Kos.

This is from HealthCareForAmericaNow.org:

It is time for us to Protect the Public Option, Pressure Blue Cross into stop opposing reform, and Participate in actions here in North Carolina!

That's why we're writing to you. Blue Cross just sent a mailer out to its policyholders here in NC that includes a printed, pre-paid postcard to Senator Kay Hagan that opposes the Public Option. In response to this outrageous use of their customers' premium dollars, we're asking you all to take three actions:
1. If you received this mailer from BCBS, please mark out in RED the words "Oppose government run healthcare" and write in RED "SUPPORT THE PUBLIC OPTION," mark out in RED "doesn't need" and write in RED "NEEDS." Then put the postage pre-paid revised card in the mail and call Senator Hagan's office to tell them that you have sent the Blue Cross card but in support of the Public Option.

2. Please join us at 11:00 on Friday morning (October 30, 2009) at the BCBS headquarters to protest their greedy campaign against health care reform. We'll bring our Crime Scene yellow tape and a blown-up version of the postcard, have fun, and send a message to Blue Cross and to Washington that we are going to get health care reform in 2009 that serves our interest, not the insurance industry's.

The BCBS headquarters is at 1700 Chapel Hill Durham Blvd, Chapel Hill, NC.

3. If you and your organization have your own list serve, please send this message along so that we can get as many cards to Senator Hagan's office as possible, and show a good crowd Friday morning at the Blue Cross headquarters to let them know how we feel.


For those who have not seen my DKos post, there is a lot of information in it on this and Blue Cross BS, etc. Also, read the comments for tips: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/26/797142/-Subvert-Your-Blue-Cross-NC-Anti-HC-Reform-Postcard-To-Sen.-HaganI-Crossed-Out...
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:30 AM
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15. Thank you so much Hissyspit. I am happy to find this
additional, info and if I can find a buddy to ride with I'll be there.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #15
25. where do you come from mira
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 03:27 PM by barbtries
i might be able to give you a ride if you're near the 40/NC 54 area (exit 273B)
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:02 PM
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33. Wow, BC/BS NC has solid brass balls
They recently dropped me after determining my brain tumor was a pre-existing condition. I didn't even show any symptoms until I wound up in the emergency room!

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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 06:05 PM
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38. Pool Hall Ace, I'm so sorry! That's terrible...
*How* can they explain a brain tumor is pre-existing? Just from an emergency room visit?

My God. I don't know what to say. Except: I'm sending good vibes your way.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:53 PM
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46. Fortunately, the tumor has been removed, and it was benign.
Or I should say, it was non-cancerous. ;)

But that's not the worst part. They promised to pay the neurosurgeon's fee 100%, but the two checks they have issued have gotten *lost* in the mail. They have actually told me and my husband to check with the post office to see what happened with the checks!

They say they cannot pay the surgeon directly because he is out of network. The practice manager, in the mean time, is threatening to send it to collections. We have an attorney working on it, but he also happens to be representing my husband in our divorce. Talk about awkward!

Thanks for the vibes. :hug:

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Duval Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:13 PM
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35. Thank you, Hissyspit! So glad about the
protest!! We'll do our darnest to be there! It's my guess The Independent(newspaper) knows, but I'll phone to make sure. We need coverage!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:20 AM
Response to Reply #35
54. Thanks!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:18 AM
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7. Power to the people
We need to barrage these rotten to the core insurers from coast-to-coast with similar mailings - let them know how we feel.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:29 AM
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9. Here's what's really stupid
Ask a rep what they do with these kind of postcards. Or online petitions. Or robo calls. I'm willing to bet they'll say they don't pay as much attention to any of those corporate or group sponsored 'contact your reps' campaigns as they do personal phone calls.

So the phone calls from the outraged folks will outweigh these postcards.

Dumb dumb move by Blue Cross.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:36 AM
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10. The stupidity of it is only surpassed by the stoopidity of the
Wingnuts in general, and it all has the same roots: "Financial Terror"
Real for the Health Insurers
Imagined for the Wingnuts.

What a Country !
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Veruca Salt Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:44 AM
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19. Someone taped theirs to a brick per the article...
if that doesn't catch their attention I don't know what will!

:rofl:
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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #19
39. I thought the brick was funny too...
not sure it'll actually get to where it's going, but it's the thought that counts.

I wonder what brainiac gave the "Go" decision on this campaign?

Glad to see everyone responding, especially the phone calls to Hagan's office.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #19
47. And BCBS has to pay the postage on the extra weight
Yes, I imagine it will attract their attention.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:39 AM
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11. I wonder if medical care for shooting themselves in the foot is not covred
under pre-existing condition of stupidity?

Good find, Mira !!!!
Boy, will I K&R.:kick: :kick:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:53 AM
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13. K&R! Also check out Hissyspit's post above.
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 09:54 AM by KoKo
:thumbsup:
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:07 AM
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14. If they are non-profit, why are they helping the profit gougers? Why are they so opposed?
They benefit in the amount of corporate data they have to reveal - is there anything in the Public Option that affects that law?

I'm confused. If you think at the contradiction simply, it doesn't make sense.


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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:40 AM
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16. BCBS
being a non profit it seems to me that their finances should be more transparent rather than closed.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:19 AM
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17. See message for contact info.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 12:39 PM
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20. Wasn't there some poll that came out a couple of weeks ago?
A poll that had North Carolina as the state with the most educated folks? Big, BIG, mistake on BC/BS part. Idiots.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 02:54 PM
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21. A postcard taped to a brick - I love it!
:rofl:
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:22 PM
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23. this guy got it straight from DU:
They've hit the Internet in a flurry of e-mails to friends and neighbors throughout the state. They've called Hagan's office to voice support for a public option. They've marked through the Blue Cross message on their postcards to instead vouch support, then dropped them in the mail -- in at least one case taped to a brick -- to be paid on Blue Cross' dime. Or dimes.
emphasis mine.

hah! this is really ricocheting on them, and i love it.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. I posted mine on my blog and in checking my stats:
I saw that BCBSNC has checked the site multiple times. HA!

I was going to send them a picture anyway, but I couldn't find any email. They saved me the trouble, it seems they are out trawling.


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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #28
44. beautiful, and how funny they saw it! nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:28 PM
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27. Hubris
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DarleenMB Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:00 PM
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29. BCBS of Wyoming has raised my rates TWICE this year.
And they wonder why people are ticked off.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:02 PM
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Well, if anyone would know about "unfair competition," it'd be BCBS
x( It's disgusting.

Go, Mark Barroso, go. :bounce:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:02 PM
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30. Here's the BCBSNC CEO speaking on health insurance reform
Just as someone who misdiagnoses a problem may pursue the wrong solutions, getting the basics wrong could easily make things worse. Much of the support for government-run health insurance stems from the mistaken belief that private-sector health insurers drive health-care costs. This sounds plausible to many people because insurance premiums impact them directly and they can see that premiums and cost-sharing have risen sharply. They generally don't see the pressure on insurers to keep costs down or how the supply of -- and demand for -- health-care services has exploded in recent years.

Health-care costs are driven by myriad factors, including an inefficient and fragmented health delivery system, unhealthy personal choices such as tobacco use and sedentary lifestyles, and a payment system that tends to reward quantity over quality. For consumers with private insurance, the problem is compounded by an estimated $88 billion in costs shifted to them annually because of inadequate government payments to doctors and hospitals for Medicare and Medicaid patients.

We all have a role to play in addressing these problems, including insurers. Health insurance reform and health-care reform are not the same thing.

Too much of the debate has been couched in combative terms that present a false choice -- either you're for a government-run health-care system or you're a defender of the status quo, with all its problems and inequities. Nothing could be further from the truth.

We're encouraged by Obama's apparent openness to a reasonable third path: build on what works in the system and fix its most pressing problems first. That means first requiring everyone to have health insurance, expanding Medicaid, creating business tax credits and providing subsidies to those who otherwise can't afford even basic coverage. Everyone will know that, regardless of health status or pre-existing conditions, they can get and keep coverage.


http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/columnists_blogs/story/113530.html

In other words, the Blue Cross CEO in NC is opposed to the public option, but he loves the idea of working families being forced to buy his health plans. Gee, what a nice guy.
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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #30
40. He got one thing right...and I quote:
<<Health insurance reform and health-care reform are not the same thing.>>

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 04:37 PM
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31. "taped to a brick"_____LOL!
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 04:37 PM by valerief
They've called Hagan's office to voice support for a public option. They've marked through the Blue Cross message on their postcards to instead vouch support, then dropped them in the mail -- in at least one case taped to a brick -- to be paid on Blue Cross' dime. Or dimes.


:rofl:
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:10 PM
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34. how does a non-profit possibly justify increasing premiums by 11% ?!!!
:mad:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:26 PM
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37. To keep up with all that competition who are purportedly forcing prices down:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_insurance_companies

Health insurance (major medical insurance)
Main articles: Health insurance and Health insurance in the United States

* Aetna
* American Association of Retired Persons
* American Family Insurance
* American National Insurance Company
* Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield
* Assurant
* Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association
* Cigna
* Fortis
* Golden Rule Insurance Company
* Group Health Cooperative
* Health Net
* HealthMarkets
* Humana Inc.
* Independent Health
* Intermountain Health Care
* Kaiser Permanente
* LifeWise Health Plan of Oregon
* Medical Mutual of Ohio
* Premera
* Principal Financial Group
* Regence Group
* Scott & White
* Shelter Insurance Companies
* Thrivent Financial for Lutherans
* UnitedHealth Group
* Unitrin
* Wellpoint






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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:22 PM
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50. Wiki needs updating...
Wellpoint == Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield.

http://www.wellpoint.com/business/about_family.asp

The crazy thing is my employer offers us the choice of using the BC/BS network - but because the company is headquartered in NYC we get the NYC BCBS - in this case Empire - soon to be renamed Anthem.

I'm one of the lucky ones in some respect. My carrier had to change back to BC/BS (Empire just screw up claims rotten IMO) because my employer discontinued offering the Aetna network. Because it's the employer offering the insurance, just BC/BS or whoever is the network where the health claims go through, they get to pick the network (somewhat). The change back to BCBS from Aetna for me means no health insurance premium hike at all (yay!) though dental did go up somewhat - vision did not.
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 06:16 PM
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41. BCBSNC can kiss of backside.
I am so sick of these bastards. We got one of these in the mail last week.
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 06:30 PM
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42. I'm taking mine over to Hagan's office tomorrow
with the vile message from BCBS scratched out, and asking her to support a public option. Her office is less than a mile from my house. I just received it today in the mail, after yesterday receiving news of the rate increase for 2010. Sad part is that the plan I have with them is the only one I can afford. Almost like a pauper's healthcare plan.

BCBS is a despicable organization, the sad part is there are other insurers that are worse. United Healthcare comes quickly to mind.



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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 07:23 PM
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43. Welcome to DU - Neighbor.
Please do take it to them. What happens to us is sinful. We are between the dog and the fire hydrant.
I LIKE your name.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 09:44 PM
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49. Welcome to DU.
:hi:
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:30 PM
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52. What an "interesting" screen name you've chosen. n/t
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:39 PM
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45. Lift the protections these insurance companies have had for many years.
All the insurance companies are going to be raising their prices. The banks, wall street all those types are getting the pie and we get the crumbs if we are lucky.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:56 PM
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48. Those freaks! I'm still waiting for one!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 05:54 AM
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55. FDL and Raw Story Cover It:
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 06:00 AM
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56. It is actually worse than that
BCBS is the administrator of the state employees (including teachers) insurance plan. They get a flat rate (which wasn't cut in our recent budget BTW) of all payments made. So they are actually using tax funds as well to lobby.
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Maineman Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 09:17 AM
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58. action strategy ?
The only way I know to stop this crap is for everyone to use the emergency room. Pack a lunch, take a small folding chair or cushion to sit on, a book to read, and help overwhelm the place when any kind of medical service is needed. We need to get the attention of politicians. If this were to happen broadly, perhaps we would finally get their attention. This crap of defending the insurance companies while taking money from them is lethal corruption.
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