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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 02:46 AM
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Nate Silver compares Joe Lieberman to a "rogue, third-bit Middle Eastern dictator"
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 02:47 AM by BzaDem
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/somebody-buy-joe-lieberman-puppy.html

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"But even if Lieberman will probably cave, this creates real problems for Democrats. For one thing, Lieberman has said he won't oppose the motion to proceed with the health care bill. Instead, he'll filibuster the end result, if he doesn't like the outcome. This is actually very devious. If Harry Reid determines that he doesn't have 60 votes on the motion to proceed on a bill with a public option, then he doesn't have to bring it to the floor. Progressives will be apoplectic, Reid will lose some face, pundits will talk about Democrats having lost momentum -- but the prospects for health care reform will probably not have seriously been damaged. The opt-out will get replaced by an opt-in or maybe a trigger or co-ops or whatever and Olympia Snowe will be very happy and the debate will proceed.

But if, on the other hand, Lieberman filibusters the vote for final passage, that will have come after weeks of floor debate, amendments, and compromising on all sorts of issues. This would be a very, very serious blow to health care reform. And it makes this a much more expensive bluff to call.

The other way that this is damaging to Democrats, of course, is that it may embolden an Evan Bayh or a Blanche Lincoln or a Ben Nelson to adopt Lieberman's stance. None of these guys want to be the lone Democratic member to filibuster -- but it's much easier to defray individual responsibility on a procedural vote against your party when you have someone else joining you.

But while a Nelson or a Lincoln is liable to have a fairly rational set of concerns -- basically, they want to ensure they get re-elected -- it's tough to bargain with people like Lieberman who are a little crazy. In certain ways, he resembles nothing so much as one of those rogue, third-bit Middle Eastern dictators that he's so often carping about, capable of creating great anxiety with relatively little expenditure of resources, and taking equal pleasure in watching his friends and enemies sweat."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:15 AM
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1. Nate's assessment is a condemnation of Lieberman based on
a characterological axis, suggesting that Lieberman's ego is greater than his commitment to the public interest.

I agree.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 08:59 AM
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2. Lieberman is a skunk. Period.
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