Rep. Anthony Weiner say's Alan Grayson is one fry short of a Happy Meal?

[trumad]

Yo Weiner---if it walks like a Duck, quacks like a Duck and looks like a Duck, it's a fucking Duck. She's a fucking K-Street Whore!

Republicans and Democrats slammed Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) for calling Linda Robertson, an adviser to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, a “K Street whore” in a month-old radio interview that circulated on Capitol Hill Monday night.

“There’s no call for that language. No call for it. That’s absurd. If he was standing here now, I’d say that to him,” said Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.)

“He’s out of control,” added Washington Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, who is vice chairwoman of the House Republican Conference.

The remarks are the latest to surface in a string of controversial statements by Grayson, who said on the Alex Jones radio show that he believes Robertson, a former Enron lobbyist, is not qualified to pass judgment on intricate financial matters.

It’s clear that his colleagues’ opinion of him has suffered.

“Is this news to you that this guy’s one fry short of a Happy Meal?” asked Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.)
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28763.html

[DainBramaged]

Truth hurts

I guess keeping the whores close is part and parcel for Washington. And Weiner can kiss my ass, Grayson speaks for us not the K Street whores.

[dhpgetsit]

49. Grayson should apologize

to all the hard working people in the sex trade.

[Timefortruth]

60. Absolutely correct, the statment was an outrage

Whores work for a living.

[DainBramaged]

74. Good point, they have more honor......

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Bottom Line: Do you think Grayson is stating the obvious or engaging in

rhetorical hyperbole?

I think the former.

[KharmaTrain]

8. He's Enjoying His 15 Minutes...

It's hard to be critical of a man who has stood up to the status quo and is definitely under the skin of the rushpublicans. The problem now appears that Congressman Grayson is in a lot of crosshairs...especially with the corporate media who both love his outrageousness but also love to play the "poutrage" game that Cong. Grayson appears to be playing along with.

While I agreed with him 10000% on his stating that the rushpublican's healthcare "proposals" equal wanting people to die, as a Jew (and I know Grayson is one as well), I cringed when he brought up the holocoust or starts using similar rhetoric as the right wing blowhards. When you fight with mud, you always get dirty.

Here's hoping he tempers the verbage a bit...his heart and politics are in the right place.

[lunatica]

13. His one apology has been about using the word Holocaust

The Anti-Defamation League criticized him and he apologized. Other than that he has refused to apologize

[Warpy]

15. He's in danger of being labeled a demagogue

and shoved into the same category as Limbag. That would be a real shame since he's making too much sense.

He needs to consider what Wiener said in that light and ratchet the rhetoric back a notch or two.

Calling a woman a whore is never a good idea, especially if she is one.

[zonkers]

21. Come on, everyone knows whore in this sense has nothing to do with sex.

[whathehell]

81. We know it..most people might, but certainly not all...Especially

if you are talking about a woman...I'm a Grayson fan, but this was a bad move on his part.

[ecstatic]

35. He's in danger of being McKinneyed

Or Kuciniched.

[Warpy]

40. Exactly my point

He needs to put a lid on it for a while.

Really.

[aquart]

45. Piffle. Not even close.

[kjackson227]

58. Yep, I think he needs to tone it down a little.

[FiveGoodMen]

83. Now that we've got one (1) rep that tells it like it is ...

...you want him to rein himself in per the right wing's complaints?

?

???


????????

[verges]

91. Since when has Weiner been right wing? nt

[FiveGoodMen]

92. The whole RW is after Grayson

I wasn't talking specifically about Weiner. Just the whole notion that we finally have someone who won't cave...

So now DU is telling them to cave.

[verges]

93. I think his word choice was bad,

I think he could apologize for the choice of words; while at the same time reaffirm the point.

[harkadog]

96. Pascrell is RW??? WTF?

[Warpy]

109. Not really

Rathceting down the rhetoric means telling it like it is in non inflammatory language.

It's not a good idea to call a woman a whore, especially if she is one. "Parasite" might have been a better idea.

[snagglepuss]

24. +1.

[ecstatic]

28. I love how frank he is, but Dean tried it and it didn't work with the masses

And Dean wasn't anywhere near as aggressive in his comments! I think Grayson has built up a great fan base and should now return to stealth mode until he's President. Then he should let loose!!! :P

[OneGrassRoot]

53. Can't it be both? To me, it's both. :) n/t

[no_hypocrisy]

54. Conceded upon reconsideration.

[NYCGirl]

2. The fact that Grayson appeared on Alex Jones' show questions his sanity. NT

[Hassin Bin Sober]

5. Yeah. He just got knocked down a notch in my opinion with THAT revelation.

He's still pretty high up.

[snagglepuss]

38. Yeah its Jones is pure wacko but I IMO Grayson is smart for for going on it.

because he reaching out to probably alot of people who are tuned out to politics.

[NYCGirl]

42. I disagree. I think anyone with a modicum of sanity should stay far away from

Jones and his crackpottery.

[snagglepuss]

47. I would agree if Grayson went there to discuss chemtrails but he didn't.

Grayson is using Jones to reach millions of people in his audience. The fact that people listen to Jones doesn't mean they're not struggling in this economy, if anything these people probably use Jones as a means of escape. I applaud Grayson for not caring how this might appear.

[Raineyb]

61. Even crackpots vote. n/t

[NYCGirl]

73. Well, Michelle Bachman is proof of that. But I still think that people with half

a functioning brain cell should stay as far away from Alex Jones as possible.

[Sebastian Doyle]

99. Thom Hartmann had Alex Jones on his show not that long ago

They actually did a joint simulcast for an hour or so.

Gonna question Thom's liberal credentials now too?


Grayson is one of the good guys. So is Weiner, for that matter (Anthony, that is. Not Michael!)

Hate to see them going against each other, when they should both be ripping on the corporatist turds.

[NYCGirl]

104. Thom Hartmann's not an elected official. If you don't like who he associates with,

you can just turn the dial. Not the same thing.

[aquart]

44. Yah. That does scare me some.

[bamacrat]

56. Only downside Ive heard about him but Alex Jones is a psycho.

[Kitty Herder]

72. I don't know if it brings his sanity into question.

That's going a bit too far. However, it does show a disturbing lack of judgement. I think having appeared on that show will hurt his credibility.

[TwilightGardener]

3. The wording we use on the internetz is not the wording a public official should use.

It's not appropriate. Grayson should know that.

[FSogol]

6. Agreed. The use of the term whore was over the top whether it is correct or not. n/t

[trumad]

7. I agree--- the dude speaks with passion and will make mistakes...

But God Damn it, I'm sick of Pink TuTu Democrats who tow the Republican talking point line.

[snagglepuss]

32. Well said. nt

[BeyondGeography]

4. Sounds like Weiner envy to me

[snagglepuss]

34. LOLOL nt

[dana_b]

68. hee hee

:evilgrin:

[peace frog]

9. +1

Sweep the whores out of government, THEN there will be no call for that kind of language.

[ChiciB1]

10. I Just Commented On The Very Same Thing At Another Thred... I Personally Think

Grayson is walking on thin ICE! I applaud him for standing up for us, but he's going out on a shaky limb with many of his comments!

We really need for him to slow down a bit! Perhaps we need to contact him with a message of this sort!!

JMHO!

[librechik]

70. Come on, we only get one bombastic barn burner while they get what, 50? 100?

Frankly, I'm grateful for every borderline inappropriate thing he says. Give a real Democrat a spine and that's what they do! You CAN'T control them indeed! (unlike the lockstep lemmingublicans)

And IMO, his statements hit the borderline without going over. Going over would have been correctly identifying that female lobbyist as a FUCKING corporate whore. Which he did not do.

[ChiciB1]

71. Point Taken... Commented Below Too! Leaving The F--King Is MUCH BETTER!

REALLY, probably used that ONE behind closed doors!
:hi:

[Demit]

11. Poor word choice any way you look at it. It's a freighted word when applied to a woman.

It immediately loses the sense of metaphor the speaker wants to convey. Grayson shot himself in the foot here.

[Raineyb]

111. Well if she doesn't like being called a whore she could refrain from whoring

for corporations. But I guess it's easier to pretend to have the vapors when someone calls you what you are. (My apologies to sex workers who unlike the whore in question actually work for a living.)

[lumberjack_jeff]

12. This is what I meant by "tone it down".

He's crossed an invisible line from "bold" to "not-credible".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=6671421

"Jump! Jump! Jump!"

I don't know why we're so surprised that he did.

[cali]

19. yeppers. but folks here don't want to hear that.

[RaleighNCDUer]

31. It is only 'not-credible' if you think he meant 'whore' to be literal, as

opposed to any person who sells their souls for the big payoff.

Frankly, there's hardly anyone on K street, male or female, who ISN'T a whore for the corporatocracy.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

14. He's Not Good For Us After All. Alex Jones? That Delusional Moron? Why Is He On His Show?

And no, calling someone like that a K street whore when your a US Rep is not exactly something that is honorable. There's at least a MINIMUM amount of professionalism expected from our reps no matter how honest and blunt they are, and his comment falls short of that.

I love how feisty he is, but he has shown now to not only do it when appropriate and in an appropriate manner, but also at times and ways that make him look fringe and whacky.

[kentuck]

16. Repubs would love to get rid of Grayson...

No need for folks like Weiner to help them. He may be a son of a bitch but he's ours.

[glitch]

51. Agreed. Really no need to pile on, whether Weiner thinks Grayson mispoke or not.

Although I do think K-Street whore is an appropriate description.

[Zodiak]

80. And there is the mistake

It was not a mistake to make the statements Grayson made....especially since it is true. It is a mistake for Democrats to pile on along with the Republicans. Talk about enabling behavior!

Note to Weiner: when asked to comment on this, redirect the question to policy instead of gotcha politics.

[glitch]

84. Exactly - "redirect the question to policy instead of gotcha politics"

We have got to be smarter regarding the corporate media.

[FiveGoodMen]

86. Just like all the news stations leaping to Faux's defense

There really is very little of this country left.

[zonkers]

17. Hope they are dumb enough to demand an apology. If so, watch him apologize to whores for insult-

ing them by making such a comparison. Hee hee.

[Cirque du So-What]

18. Politico

'nuff said.

Well, not quite enough...

This would be a good time to revisit the Enron debacle and ask WTF is the lobbyist with arguably the dirtiest hands doing advising the Fed chairman? And while we're at it, look with fresh eyes at ties between Enron & Tom DeLay, seeing that he wants to get his smug mug in front of TV cameras so badly.

Instead, we're treated to a circle jerk of Rep. Grayson's detractors, who are calling him crazy. IMO it's crazy to allow someone with bona fide prostitute credentials like Robertson anywhere near monetary policy. I would have expected better from Rep. Weiner, but money trumps common sense every time, it appears.

[snagglepuss]

39. Exactly.

:applause:

[redqueen]

20. I agree he crossed a line... but Dem pols should STFU about it.

How many Republicans publicly chastise Michelle Bachman for her batshit insanity?

Just say no comment and deal with him in private.

We need to learn how to deal with this stuff more effectively.

[eleny]

27. Good point!

[BeyondGeography]

66. I'll see your good and raise to great

[ecstatic]

36. Dems and unity? Ha!! nt

[ChiciB1]

46. That's My Opinion Too! I LIKE His Attitude & Guts For Speaking Truth To Power...

BUT, I've always said, it's NOT what you say, it's HOW YOU SAY IT!! I like his spunk and would hate to see him chastised by his fellow Dems, but many Dems who have been around a LOT LONGER may just take him to the wood shed! Even IF what he says is the truth!

Just tone it down, but keep that strong spine working!

[dana_b]

69. exactly!

calling someone a "whore", no matter if it was not meant in that way, is dumb and frankly insensitive. We get the sentiment but he needs to choose his statements and tactics more wisely.
I think Weiner could actually teach him a thing or two.

[Spazito]

22. Politico.....

Talon News with out Jeffie Boy.....so far anyway.

[HipChick]

23. they are looking for dirt..is this the best they got?

[CrownPrinceBandar]

25. Grayson's going for populist anger..............

In some ways I feel his disdain is right-on, as with the "Die Quickly" comment that made him such a sweetheart to folks here at DU. However, I agree he may be spreading his 15 minutes rather thinly by making sure he keeps in the media spotlight and doing ill-advised things like appearing on Alex Jones' show. But to call him "one fry short of a Happy Meal", does a major disservice to the motivation and spine that he has (at least momentarily) given the D's in this country. Rep Weiner, there's room for two barking dogs in this party.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

26. I saw Grayson on Real Time and I felt that he lacked impulse control.

[snagglepuss]

41. So he's not anal rententive. What of it? Does that make him less honest,

less intelligent or just less manipulative?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

63. No, it doesn't make him less honest, but who says honesty has to do

with impulse control? Many times I have spoken glibly before speaking and those words were not always the truth.

[Malikshah]

29. Try not to hit your toe as you sow dissent. Please! Bringing Politico into the

mix is always soooooo helpful to discourse. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[OHdem10]

30. Take a deep breath. Weiner's response is typical Democrat on the

Hill response. This is why we end up with mealy mouthed Democrats
who appear spineless.

Do not hold your breath long. Someone on the Hill will think
Weiner is too outspoken. Democrats do not want any stars.

Look they have done everything they could to put Howard Dean
down as a Kook. Think about how they joke about Kucinich.

My thought is this. Progressive Activists should stand with
all of our Representatives with Spines. We should be cultivating
more of them not stabbing them in the back.

These are the Representatives who will help the party more in the end.

I think Weiner is great but he needs not to put another potential
star down. We need them all.

[snagglepuss]

43. You nailed it. nt

[KittyWampus]

50. You calling Weiner "mealy-mouth"? THINK AGAIN. He's done more for HCR than Kucinich

or Grayson.

Your comment is a great example of DU'ers as Reactionary Screamers.

[FLAprogressive]

101. he's also a hawkish war supporter and not the hero people here make him out to be.

[glitch]

52. Extremely well said. nt

[LeftHandPath]

77. Well said.

The fucking chief lobbyist for fucking ENRON? Is working at the fucking FED?

Are you fucking kidding me?

What if they had hired Bernie Madoff? Would the Democrats be offended if Grayson called him a crook?

Sorry, but I'm tired of the passive, wet noodle approach.

We need an entire House filled with people like Grayson who are passionate and willing to put their country ahead of their reelection.

[demwing]

33. Grayson should not use such inflamatory language

it dillutes the value of the message.

[guitar man]

37. but of course

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."


Dresden James

[ChiciB1]

48. There's A Lot Of Truth In What You Say... But the BIG DOGS In the Party

may just circle the wagons! I'm on Grayson's side and love that he's speaking out... just be careful Mr. Grayson... we need people like you!

Many Democrats have done bad things to their fellow Democrats!! I've been around to see it happen in the past!!

[karynnj]

55. Grayson is out of control and this is not appropriate.

He needs to listen to what his peers are saying. He is clearly drunk on the praise from the far left - and his comments hurt us. At some point I hope the Democrats censure him before the Republicans do.

[HughMoran]

108. Seems he said this before he was a cult hero though

If he said this in September, it seems that was before he was "popular" - no?

[joeycola]

57. Grayson’s spokesman, declined comment other than to confirm that the interview occurred. ........

umm. not a good sign.


Todd Jurkowski, Grayson’s spokesman, declined comment other than to confirm that the interview occurred.

[WI_DEM]

59. It's gone to his head.

[Raineyb]

62. Bloody hell! This attitude is exactly why we get these cowardly

mush mouth Dems who end up not doing a goddamn thing for anyone who can't write a 7 figure check.

Guess what, if you prostitute your views you are a whore and working for Enron makes you one of the biggest whores out there.

The only people demanding an apology should be actual sex workers because unlike the K street whores, sex workers have to actually WORK for a living.

[DonCoquixote]

64. Weiner

I love your health care amendment, BUT

If more of your colleagues acted like Grayson, maybe we would not be in this mess we are in.

Alan, please run for Senate so I can vote for you.

[NoodleyAppendage]

65. WIMP Dems are concerned about how Grayson's BACKBONE calls attention to their lacking one.

Grayson is EXACTLY what the Democratic Party needs right now. We're in the FRIGGIN' MAJORITY and still acting like cowards. Now's the time to stick the knife in the Repuke Party and twist it until they bleed to death. But, as is predictable of a large number of Dem leaders, they think that acting collegial will be reciprocated by the Pukes.

The Dem leadership acts like they are a cowed and battered wife.

J

[nashville_brook]

103. eggsactly.

[debbierlus]

67. That seems to be Weiners pet expression - he says it a lot

And, he should knock it off. It's stupid.

I like Weiner, btw. I just hate the damn expression.

As for Grayson, he utilizes the same tactics as the right. He deliberately says provocative & outrageous things to get attention. I like that he is giving them a taste of their own medicine, but I think his over the edge remarks have the potential to boomerang.

He appears to be a opportunist rather then a strong legislator.

[Joe S]

75. Weiner sees a rival

We all know the New York Congressman is gonna be on a Democratic ticket within the next ten years. I think that Tony (the intellectual) may be worried that Al (shooting from the hip) may have more populist appeal!

[Freddie Stubbs]

76. Weiner is obviously a spineless Republican-lite DLC Blue Dog DINO

He needs a REAL DEMOCRATIC primary opponent RIGHT AWAY!!!

[mopinko]

78. he's great, but he is walking a fine line. insulting people without collateral

damage is a hard thing to do. he needs to be very careful about bigoted references, and this is one. there are just a couple of words that you don't use. references to women's sexual activity, or organs, just crosses the line. we aren't walking twats. only a jerk talks like we are.
you're doing fine for the most part, sir, just walk this one back if you know what is good for ya.

[Overseas]

79. Love Rep Weiner. Love Grayson too.

It is sad but not shocking that every political operative in Congress will be digging for dirt on Grayson and splashing it around. We Democrats out here are loving Alan for being so gutsy and honest, so everyone will be looking for his "unstable scream" to discredit him and tarnish his glow.

So we need to get used to this and toughen up to it. Had we not been duped by the hyping of the exuberant declaration and scream of Howard Dean at a political rally years ago, we might have benefited even more from his gutsy attempt to show us The Emperor Has No Clothes, too. Dean was busting through the myths about Republicans-- that they care about responsible budgeting and are strong on national defense. He exposed those myths for the crock that they were and then AHA!-- was silenced by a scream.

So we see that the new guy Alan Grayson has done some kooky stuff here and there. So maybe dear Anthony Weiner was just doing some collegial ribbing to lighten things up.

But Grayson knows quite a bit about lobbying, and I love him most for what he has learned, documented, and exposed about our increasingly privatized military. His specialty in contracting fraud is what thrills me most. (Of course I was heartened by his willingness to apologize to the 44,000 per year that Die Early, and bring a sharp dose of reality into our HCR discussions.)

Loved his ability to seize the time, when Congress was grandstanding about defunding ACORN, to hop onto that bandwagon in a different way-- paraphrasing-- Gee, if you really care about contractor fraud, perhaps we should look at the companies still doing business with our government that have actual fraud convictions, and reconsider dealing with them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/22/whoops-anti-acorn-bill-ro_n_294949.html

[knixphan]

82. Instead of HIM toning it down...

perhaps WE should crank it UP.

[ipaint]

85. Good for Grayson. That is what she is and if she doesn't want to be called out

then don't be a whore. If this is the worst they can dig up on him after intensely scrutinizing every word he's uttered in his political life time, they've got nothing.

As for the sensitive political elite politicians who are appalled by his lack of decorum, screw you. I find your decorum appalling and enabling.

[ddeclue]

88. Actually referring to a K street lobbyist as a prostitute is insulting to hard working prostitutes

everywhere.

:P

[southernyankeebelle]

87. The last I heard on Hardball was he wasn't referring to her personally but was referring to her job

on K Street.

[TheWebHead]

89. It's probably best to keep Grayson caged and gagged

during the silly season of '12... I can just see it now, every other day every Democrat will be asked if they reject and repudiate the latest politically incorrect statement to roll out of Grayson's mouth, who has been getting his ego fed lately by partisan flamethrowers in the general public to only ratchet up the trash talking.

[FiveGoodMen]

90. Yes outspoken truth-tellers need to be caged and gagged

That's what has made America great so far!

[Nikki Stone1]

94. Anyone who helps the Federal Reserve-a private bank-screw the people deserves to be vilified

I'm with Grayson here.

[spanone]

95. if he talks like that, they won't take him seriously....for one second

[marmar]

97. delete, intended as OP

nt

[Sebastian Doyle]

98. Memo to Weiner: Grayson is not your enemy. The WHORES are.

And yes, anyone who worked for Ken Fucking Lay is a WHORE.

(No offense to sex workers)

[FLAprogressive]

100. let's remember that Weiner is a neocon (very hawkish and pro-war) and is not the hero that people

here make him out to be.

[NYCGirl]

105. Then how do you explain this? Looks like he's changed:

http://www.ontheissues.org/NY/Anthony_Weiner_War_+_Peace.htm


Voted YES on investigating Bush impeachment for lying about Iraq.
# OnTheIssues.org Explanation:This vote is on referring the impeachment resolution to a Congressional Committee to decide further action (not on impeachment itself).Congressional Summary:Resolved, That President George W. Bush b Fourth AmendmentArticle XXVI--Announcing the Intent To Violate Laws With Signing Statements, and Violating Those LawsProponents' arguments for voting YEA:Rep. Kucinich: Now is the time for this Congress to examine the actions that
Reference: The Kucinich Privilege Resolution; Bill H.RES.1258 ; vote number 2008-401 on Jun 11, 2008

Voted YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days.
To provide for the redeployment of US Armed Forces and defense contractors from Iraq. Requires within 90 days to commence the redeployment; and to complete such redeployment within 180 days after its commencement. Prohibits the use of DOD funds to increase the number of US forces serving in Iraq in excess of the number serving in Iraq as of January 1, 2007, unless specifically authorized by Congress. Authorizes retaining in Iraq US forces for providing security for diplomatic missions; for targeting al-Qaeda; and for training Iraqi Security Forces. Requires the President to transfer to the government of Iraq all interest held by the US in any military facility in Iraq.

Proponents support voting YES because:

This war is a terrible tragedy, and it is time to bring it to an end. This is a straightforward bill to redeploy our military forces from Iraq and to end the war in Iraq. This bill does not walk away from the Iraqi people. It specifically continues diplomatic, social, economic, and reconstruction aid. Finally, this bill leaves all the decisions on the locations outside of Iraq to which our troops will be redeployed wholly in the hands of our military commanders.

Opponents support voting NO because:

This legislation embraces surrender and defeat. This legislation undermines our troops and the authority of the President as commander in chief. Opponents express concern about the effects of an ill-conceived military withdrawal, and about any legislation that places military decisions in the hands of politicians rather than the military commanders in the field. The enemy we face in Iraq view this bill as a sign of weakness. Now is not the time to signal retreat and surrender. It is absolutely essential that America, the last remaining superpower on earth, continue to be a voice for peace and a beacon for freedom in our shrinking world.
Reference: Out of Iraq Caucus bill; Bill H R 2237 ; vote number 2007-330 on May 10, 2007

Voted NO on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date.

* Voting YES would support the following resolution (excerpted): Whereas the United States and its allies are engaged in a Global War on Terror, a long and demanding struggle against an adversary that is driven by hatred of American values and that is committed to imposing, by the use of terror, its repressive ideology throughout the world;
* Whereas the terrorists have declared Iraq to be the central front in their war against all who oppose their ideology;
* Whereas the United States and its Coalition partners will continue to support Iraq as part of the Global War on Terror:

* Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives--Honors all those Americans who have taken an active part in the Global War on Terror;
* Declares that it is not in the national security interest of the United States to set an arbitrary date for the withdrawal or redeployment of United States Armed Forces from Iraq;
* Declares that the United States is committed to the completion of the mission to create a sovereign, free, secure, and united Iraq;
* Declares that the United States will prevail in the Global War on Terror, the noble struggle to protect freedom from the terrorist adversary.

[FLAprogressive]

112. he's a big AIPAC supporter -- AIPAC is a dangerous pro-war organization

[Sebastian Doyle]

110. Maybe he's like Wexler was, in that respect?

Buys the AIPAC party line (no matter how ridiculous) when it comes to Israel, but is otherwise Liberal?

[FLAprogressive]

113. I suppose :-/

[Hatchling]

102. unreced for Weiners opinion

not the op

[HughMoran]

106. The weird thing is that he said this in September

Funny that it just surfaced and became a controversy a month later.

[LatteLibertine]

107. Essentially most Dems have the spine flu

Bill-O was just attacking Grayson as a nut, a radical and an embarrassment last night on Pox news. Obviously he wants to create pressure to silence him. Weiner was one of the fellows he was complaining to.

Perhaps Grayson is crazy and we Democrats need more nuts in the other sense of the word.