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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:12 PM
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Is this the new America?
Government of the corporations, by the corporations, for the corporations, shall not perish from the earth. It certainly seems that way to me. Please tell me that I am wrong. I really want to be wrong. I think we can take it back but how? My only solution is term limits and public campaign finance reform. Any other ideas?


Peace,
Max
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:15 PM
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1. If that were right, there wouldn't be so much
noise going on right this very minute against the insurance companies and lots more. Check the 'greatest' for some good threads.
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:21 PM
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2. That is what made me post babylonsister
Most elected pols are more interested in pleasing their corporate masters than the people that elected them. I have seen the threads, but we are spinning our wheels I feel.


Peace,
Max
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:26 PM
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3. They manipulate us--they are going to make us buy their product by force of law
in return, they will give up a few of their worst excesses. No cost controls whatever, save whatever shell of a "public option" emerges from the sausage factory.

And the corporations have the magnanimity to allow us to call ourselves the "winners", when we still can't have what every other democracy in the developed world has. Pretty much proof that our system of government is broken, if you ask me.
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:32 PM
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6. They outsource the jobs
And they are not coming back. Manufacturing and unions are what made this country what it is. Now, if there is even a whiff of a union they will close down the plant. They make us want more and more of the crappy stuff made in China, eventually the well will run dry. Hell, people are joining the military for health care. This is all part of the plan I fear. The dumbing down of America is no accident, good soldiers don't ask questions.


Peace,
Max
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:27 PM
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4. Folks need to stop supporting corrupt corporations. There use to be book that
rated corporations on social issues. It was published way back in the 80s I think. We need something like that.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:32 PM
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5. if we had REAL campaign finance reform- term limits probably wouldn't be necessary.
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:33 PM
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7. I'll take either
But, I fear it will never happen.


Peace,
Max
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:35 PM
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8. The past few months has really shown me the truth
Right-wing Teabaggers that support obscene corporate profits willfully disrupt town halls...a feature of democracy dating back to ancient Athens. They get into scuffles with other demonstrators, like in Milwaukee. According to Representative Gerry Connelly, a freshman Democratic lawmaker was assaulted. Guns are carried near the President. And no arrests in order to support the corporate agenda.

In Pittsburgh at the G-20, a police riot breaks out on the University of Pittsburgh campus. Students are subjected to loud noises and beaten and summarily arrested just for being on their own college campus; many of whom had nothing to do with demonstrations and had absolutely nowhere to disperse to when ordered to do so. The only silver lining from it is that unlike Kent State, nobody died.

Get this straight. If you're in favor the rich, you're free to disrupt government functions and assault lawmakers and will not be punished. If you're against the rich, you'll be arrested for simply walking your own college campus on a Friday night.

I recently cut ties with a somewhat wealthy (by inheritance) friend because I was sick and tired of hearing about not wanting taxes on her family raised. And it's not like she ever did anything to care for anybody else.

Right-wingers love to say we are a Christian nation. We are not. The one god that is truly worshipped in America is money and material possessions.
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:41 PM
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10. Well written
I agree 100%, what I see happening in the streets is truly frightening. You are absolutely correct, if you protest against the establishment you get beaten, the teabaggers get a free pass. This is not the America I envisioned, we are the majority and it surely doesn't feel that way.


Peace,
Max
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:39 PM
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9. Greed trumps all other considerations. That's all you need to know. nt
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:42 PM
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11. You are witnessing the climax of the last 30 years.
Welcome to the Corporate Government Store, formerly known as the Company Store and U.S. Government. Just think Company Store on steroids, with the power of the U.S. Government behind it. It's all legal, because your elected leaders signed the deal to merge the U.S. Government with Corporate America.

U. S. Citizens shall be treated as Subjects to the Corporate Government Store from now on. There is no escape anymore either.

Well, that's basically how it all boils down.
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:48 PM
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12. This is the world we inherited
There is no point in assigning blame. Every generation has to clean up after the one before us. I don't want to piss off the boomers, but.........



Peace,
Max
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:49 PM
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13. When all avenues of legal and peaceful protests are cut off...
then the people have nothing left to do but have a revolution.
I hate to see it come to that.
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maxpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 11:52 PM
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14. Jefferson said it was necessary
When will we heed his words? We have to take it back. These are dangerous times.



Peace,
Max
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