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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 08:53 PM Original message |
Zero Percent Corporate Tax. Is It a good idea? |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. Won't happen. US labor is too pricey. They might incorporate here..... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. +111111111111111111^999 |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. Disaster |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. How about 0 percent corporate and 40% capital gains? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. It becomes a bit like an S-Corp then |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Bingo the Parasitic corporations are already evading their low tax rate. How about an AMT for Cos? |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. you mean zero corporate welfare too? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. That works for me. n/t |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. All the better for the voodoo to trickle down, I suppose. |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Or does it |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Or is it? |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
65. Good. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. Terrible idea. |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. And we know what |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. ?? US corporate tax rates are among the HIGHEST in the West. |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. Hey, not so fast ... |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Actually, that's a great point, and one I've made often. |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. My brain just exploded.... but then I was given the RED pill. |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. Capital Gains under Reagan, 28%. Capital gains under Bush/Obama, 15% |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. What about Clinton? |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Steady to 1997, then lowered to 20% |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
9. No. |
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Ardent15 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. +1. nt |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
12. Oh, and if they get to influence our elections and Representatives, no Representation without |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Wasn't it |
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Ardent15 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Yes, but it should go both ways. nt |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. How is the inverse any different? |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
14. sure as long as we stop subsidizing them so that |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. It is double taxation |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. its only double taxation if the corporation was actually taxed |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Tax is corporate gains. Capital gains (15%) is on shareholder gains. |
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gristy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
48. And double taxation is what? Unfair? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Yes. n/t |
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NoUsername (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
71. Speaking of negative tax rates... |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
16. No. If you want to give corporations an incentive, you do it with tariffs and |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. But, but, but - what bouut NAFTA? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Knock Knock |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. It's common sense. What you're suggesting is corporate servility. |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. And they go elsewhere |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Your libertarian stance scares the shit out of me |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. So are you evaporating it all? |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. I think that they should go somewhere else |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. They'll go elsewhere? Don't be absurd. |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
21. Only if they renounce corporate "personhood" |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. You certainly added to |
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dhpgetsit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
27. The way to restore American labor |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. I agree, but |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. They'll be willing to pay more in time, because they'll have more. |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Economics 101 - Deficit Spending while in growth mode |
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dhpgetsit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
76. Wages will have to be adequate to allow working families to live. |
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OffWithTheirHeads (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
31. I think most people don't quite get the concept of the tax breaks |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. +1 |
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Ardent15 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Worse idea than a flat tax. nt |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. ? |
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Ardent15 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
64. Sorry, that was meant to be in response to the OP. nt |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Check. nt |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Thanks. n/t |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. ? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. ? |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Amen brother/sister |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
49. No. The more their taxes went down, the more jobs they offshored |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Please provide a link. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Have you been in a coma for the past 30 years? |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. You are talking to a Libertarian tool. I appreciate your patience with it. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Thank you |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Been annoying me with Ayn Rand talking points for weeks |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
55. Would that not mean more jobs for US workers? How could you verify that it would? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. I would say common sense. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. Suggesting a tax free, no strings attached status for corps like religion has coveted |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
61. Sounds like a trickle down theory to me |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. See reply 25 |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. either way - up or down - it's a trickle |
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Ruby the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. It is Rand/Paul-ism |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-20-09 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
73. Well, the liberal argument against the Cadillac Plan Health Insurance Tax Is That It Gets Passed On |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
74. No. Why should a corporation, which enjoys rights of personhood, be exempt? |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
75. We already have that. Most US corporations pay virtually no taxes. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-21-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
77. NO it won't - it will just mean their P.O. Box is in the U.S.A. |
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