Question: Can a naturalized citizen be stripped of his/her citizenship?

[Aviation Pro]

I.e. can that fucking, motherfucking shitstain of a media mogul, Roopurt Murdech, be stripped and booted out of the country, his assests confiscated, and let Oz handle him?

[Maccagirl]

1. Only if he lied on his application

as far as I know. Legal eagles can chime in please.

[cliffordu]

14. He did lie - claimed to be human

[Taverner]

2. No but he can be de-funded to the point that he's homeless

Which I find a lot more fun...

[lumberjack_jeff]

3. He's a naturalized citizen?

Didn't know that. I thought he was an Austrailian.

[Aviation Pro]

4. Yep....

....

[Sebastian Doyle]

9. Newt Gingrich helped the fucking piece of shit avoid the usual delay in becoming a citizen

....because he knew the legislation to "reform" the media was in the works, and he wanted Rupert to be able to launch FAUX Noize and buy up all the newspapers.

So it's not like Rupert is a "proud American". Last I heard, he doesn't even live here. He's just a "citizen" on paper so he could expand his empire.

[SmileyRose]

5. No and I would not want that for anyone.

and as much as I dislike (and even hate) pretty much everything he stands for, I can not even wrap my head around the idea that we would confiscate assets and revoke citizenship simply because we don't like someone. That's not what I stand for and I hope to heavens that's not what the Democratic party stands for.

[Posteritatis]

7. +1 (nt)

[Aviation Pro]

8. What if what he is doing is promoting treason....

...look at it this way, after we threw off the shackles of British colonial rule would the founding fathers have tolerated an instigator from abroad, living in this country and profiting from its freedoms, to condone, however silently, the actions of his corporation in a thinly veiled attempt to overthrow the leadership of our fledgling country?

I think not.

[hack89]

18. You need to read the Constitution again

it is the only place where treason is defined - it does not apply in this case.

[JonQ]

16. He's an enemy of the state

and should be sent to a dea .. . . er reeducation camp to teach him tolerance. His assets will be seized for the benefit of the state.

Nothing to see here citizen, move along are you may be found in need of an "education".

[Zywiec]

19. +1

I'm with you. When I see "assets confiscated", I wonder what country these people think they are living in or wish they lived in.

:crazy:

[Aviation Pro]

6. Shameless kick to offset....

...the assclown pinhead who unrec'd.

[dsc]

10. I think the person who said yes if he lied on his application

is correct. Demanjuk is an example of someone to whom that happened.

[Cleita]

11. Yes, my mother was naturalized and I remember there being

provisions for losing citizenship that she was warned about. They are drastic of course, like giving away military secrets to the enemy and stuff like that. It would require a lawyer proficient in naturalization law to find any violations he might have committed that could endanger his citizenship status. Since it's becoming apparent that he became a citizen so he could acquire and operate media here in the USA, maybe proving his lack of sincerity in becoming a citizen could be a violation of his oath. If anyone can prove he took the oath and lied about it, maybe he could maybe be accused of lying under oath. I wonder even if it could be regarded as treason? However, it would really be hard to get the evidence on this unless on tape or video he stated he became a citizen only to take over as much American media as he could and there was sworn testimony from witnesses to corroborate it.

I also wonder if endangering the life of a President could be considered treason, or if the evidence of his stations stirring the pot in this regard would only be considered circumstantial. Like I said it would take an expert in naturalization law to figure this out.

[imdjh]

12. Some famous Italian gangster was sent back decades ago. nt

[Flaneur]

13. Lucky Luciano?

[Hepburn]

15. Yes...

...if any fraud was involved in his entry to the USA and/or his citizenship application.

[niyad]

17. I keep wondering that about the "birther" queen, as well--how mad are we are russia right now?

[malaise]

20. Happens all the time

Many are deported once they've committed a crime. The ugly Australian should be arrested for treason.

[gleaner]

21. You can lose your citizenship .....

But you have to have lied to obtain it, or committed crimes, or be involved in treason. Problem is with stripping someone of their citizenship and trying to deport them is that you have to find a country who will take them in when you are done. Not many want to. I'm not sure, but I don't think even their countries of origin have to take them back if they don't want to.

[conscious evolution]

22. Crimers against the peace

is,well,a crime.
Deport his sorry ass.
Fuck whether or not anyone wants him.Just throw his sorry ass on the first plane out of the country.

[gleaner]

23. I agree ...

But it is not that easy. If the gaining country does not want to admit him, it won't. They will deny him entry and refuse to accept custody. They went through that with Sam Giancana. They attempted to deport him but no one would grant entry. I don't know how he got there but I think he wound up in prison in Mexico. He may have gone there to avoid deportation or prison here. When he was released back into US custody by Mexico, the mafia murdered him.

I don't think you can create a "displaced person," if you revoke citizenship. If they are guilty of crimes they keep them in prison here and then try to find a place to take them, but they can't just throw them out and create a stateless person. Some vicissitudes of the law. I don't understand why they can't chuck them out like spoiled meat, but that isn't the way it works.

If anyone knows more about it, please chime in. I would be interested to learn more.

[Posteritatis]

24. You can't strip citizenship for just any crimes

Unless you want all criminals in the US deported (and if so, to where?).

There's a reason there's such a high bar set in most countries on revoking citizenship. Making that anything less than incredibly hard to abuse is a scary, scary idea.

[JonQ]

25. Ah yes, countries that strip citizens of their citizenship for having the wrong politics

are always countries we should emulate.

Perhaps we need a code of laws defining what political, moral, and ethnic qualities are tolerable for citizenship in our great Reich, and er . . .remove everyone else.

[Nye Bevan]

26. Yes. How *dare* his newspapers and TV stations criticize Obama.

They don't tolerate that kind of nonsense in Zimbabwe, and we shouldn't tolerate it here either.