Bush/Cheney: It was glaringly obvious that they would fuck the country over back in 2000

[Ardent15]

A team of two oil men, surrounded by CEOs, lobbyists, and corporate swine in general, were presenting themselves as the best choice for government.

In 2000, the Republicans weren't offering corporate influence over government. In the Bush Administration, the CEOs and lobbyists WERE the government.

How millions of people fell for this bullshit is beyond me.

[FrenchieCat]

1. I was marching against Bush before 9/11.......

So I knew.

Anyone willing to steal an election to gain power is not going to be doing the best thing for democracy when they gain power; that's for sure.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

3. ME TOO

[calimary]

9. I hadn't started marching yet, but I was filled with a deep sense of foreboding.

Damn. I can still remember that as plain as day - that feeling I had watching him make that speech in Texas, introduced by the presumptive head of the Texas legislature opposition (I think the Texas speaker of the state legislature was a Dem) purportedly to show how all nice and benign and bipartisan he was. The snake! I watched that - knowing Al Gore had just had the election stolen from him, and heard bush talk about how he recognized half the country hadn't voted for him and he was determined to prove to the rest of us that he was our president, too, even though we'd gone for Gore.

And I remember so clearly what I thought - a big "oh yeah? Well, we'll just see about that. Mind if I DON'T take your word for it yet, george? 'Cause I don't trust you any farther than I can throw my house." It sure SOUNDED nice and harmless enough.

And I remember how I felt: the hairs were going up on the back of my neck and believe me, I was noticing. This was a pretty strong feeling. And I remember dismissing it, thinking - "m'eh - you're just upset about the election results. It couldn't be THAT bad..." But I swear! I will NEVER forget that feeling that just started at the back of my neck without my even thinking about it. It just started automatically, and I didn't know why. I just had this profound sense of dread that I couldn't explain. Because I kept thinking - "oh, you're just getting carried away. He can't be THAT bad, can he?" But that sense of great foreboding just would NOT let go of me.

[Zorra]

11. Me, too. Tried to warn everyone I knew even before the 2000 election.

Then tried to get a general strike organized after the SCOTUS appointed Bu*h to the presidency.

People just thought I was being extreme.

Now, they come up to me and tell me about how correct I was about Bu*h.

No consolation for having my democracy and my country destroyed.
:cry:

[The Hope Mobile]

26. Exactly! Same here! During the campaign I never could watch him

because it made me nauseous and like I needed to take a shower. By all rights, Gore was a better candidate by a LONG shot but I had a nagging feeling all along that somehow things weren't going to go as they should. Bush was too much of a smug used car salesman and things never added up with him. He had me VERY worried even back then, and I was sure we'd be at war again, but I have to say, he shocked me right out of the gate when he refused to signed Kyoto. Then I knew we were screwed. Common sense had left the building and there was NOTHING we could put past these guys.

[Echo In Light]

2. An ostensible lame duck admin, until the "justification" for implementing PNAC plans was staged

... which is the only reason they were installed, and the Establishment entire went along unquestioningly with the "election" from the get-go: they knew Big Plans for a new, profitable enemy was in the works ... so big that each new admin from that point on would of course religiously maintain its bogus premise.

[Joe Chi Minh]

4. The Onion people thought so.

[dem mba]

29. they looked like prophets in hindsight

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784

[NRaleighLiberal]

5. Don't forget. Gore won. BushCheney lost. They are an illegal misadministration.

[Ardent15]

6. I know. But millions of people voted for them

That's what I think is frightening.

[Echo In Light]

21. "If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." Anatole France

[Lasher]

7. Hell, there's people right now wishing for more of the same that Junior gave us.

For just one glaring example, watch Larry Kudlow on TV. He's a broken record constantly squealing about tax cuts! tax cuts! tax cuts! That's all we neeeeeeed! And there are plenty who are obsessing about the very same laissez-faire capitalism that brought us the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

[pink-o]

8. The California Rolling Blackouts in April 2001

Were pretty well the first clue to those paying attention. We didn't know exactly how much Kenny Boy Lay and Enron were screwing with us, but I will never forget when the MSM asked Dim Son about capping energy prices. He had the smirk I would come to hate--and said that California would not be in this mess if they allowed ****offshore drilling***

Bastard. He and Darth were such obvious Plutocrats, but after the election burnout in 2000, and then 9/11 it took most people until Katrina to catch on.

[csziggy]

10. The Onion knew - why didn't the rest of the media?

Oh yeah - the media is owned by the same forces that put Bush/Cheney in office.

[Raschel]

15. And nobody mentioned that we heard not a word from **** towards the end of his Presidency as our

country was falling apart. Not heard from nor even seen.

[csziggy]

28. I think he sunk into an alcoholic depressive stupor for the last several months

Even worse than the ones he must have had periodically throughout the rest of his adult life.

[Gman2]

12. IT was to be a lean mean business machine. Float your boat and all.

The adults were going to make the decisions that those weak dems could not.



They intended to bankrupt us, so there would be nothing to spend on humans. Then, with the PNAC stuff, it became clear that they were going to use hegemony, to saddle the world with updating our antiquated currency. To rule EVERYTHING. Iron fist. Then, let the shit hit the fan after a dem was guilty. Too bad so sad. It blew up right before the Dem took it. It was all a scheme. Every Repub pres has the same scheme. Talk fiscal conservative. Fuck the country, and blame the dem for it.

[peacetalksforall]

13. Now we know how to recognize it and break through the fog of forged letters, audios of bin Laden,

9-11's, bring on the phosphorus and other bombs, including McCain singing. But we don't know how to stop it because these people got all their ducks in a row - from the reverends who would lead their people in support - to the bankers and fed reserve guys - 100% media support of the major papers and tv networks, the think tanks, guest experts, the pollsters, the event dramas and the adored smirker, along with a laughing crowd of the so=called top journalists either embedded or laughing at Rumsfelds jokes and playing along with the playing cards.

We asked each other to wake up and watch and listen. Many peole have steered us to the truth. It's all carried over.

Just as they immediately tried to bring Clinton down, they are doing the same to Obama.

What do we do now?

[The_Commonist]

14. I actually thought it was going to be much worse.

At the time, I told many people that the election of 2000 was a choice between Global Corporate Fascism and Global Corporate Socialism, and that the Fascists would win because they steal elections.

After 2004, I thought that "we" would certainly use nukular weapons somewhere, probably in Iran, and I thought things would be much worse now than they actually are. So much for small favors.

And yes... the fact that over 50 million people voted for Bush each time says quite a bit about this country. None of it good...

[Echo In Light]

23. Likely to reach a horrifying apogee when you least expect it - w/a friendly face, not a scowler

Something tells me the Powers That Be, realizing, of course, how the police state infrastructure has been established incrementally, weren't counting on quite as much backlash to Bush/Cheney as what did manifest (mostly in unprofessional, non-establishment circles) and so will wait to play the next card in advancing a phony "war" when the public least expects it i.e "It'll NEVER happen now that a Dem was been elected!"

[grasswire]

16. I knew it then.

I fought to stop the election of Bush, and then the selection of Bush. I was part of a bunch of Internet activists who did everything but crawl on broken glass to stop it.

What we didn't know so deeply then was that the press was so deeply corrupted and controlled. We thought we could force a story into the national conversation simply because it was newsworthy and important.

That was before Kos and Huffington and Rachel and and truthout and all of the paths we have now to shine light on traitors.

[Fumesucker]

17. Y2K primaries..

Bushie was giving a speech to a Repug crowd and said "They think Social Security is a Federal program" in a tone obviously intended to convey the idea that SS is not a federal program.

The crowd cheered insanely.

I knew then that we was well and truly fucked.

[diane in sf]

18. They did have to steal both elections to grab power.

[Ineeda]

19. Damn. I remember that rainy, dismal inauguration day - crying all day.

and god help me, wishing for a bullet. Me! a ardent pacifist. Me! who remembered the horror of '63 and '68. Try as I might, I couldn't put that momentary flash back in my brain. The guilt I felt dissipated as time went on though.

[tanyev]

20. You don't stage a coup unless you've got an agenda.

[Echo In Light]

24. PNAC

[blues90]

22. I knew it was a bad sign before 2000 and railed against it

I knew Cheney was a real danger , I did not at the time know much about Bush other than he was Jr of another freak, cause enough for concern.

[lunatica]

25. The moment Bush showed up to run for Prez with his entourage

and with $40 million dollars already my heart sank. Nothing he did surprised me because the moment I saw him my intuition plopped it all into my mind. I knew he was going to leave this country a sorry shadow of itself.

[struggle4progress]

27. Yeah, when the son of the former president and former head of the secret police becomes

president himself after judges appointed by his father stop ballot-counting in the province controlled by his brother, ya oughta expect a bumpy ride

[Flying Dream Blues]

30. Sounds like a bad script that would never get made, huh...nt

[struggle4progress]

33. Americans sneer, when it happens abroad, but can't see it at all, when it happens here

[Flying Dream Blues]

34. Isn't that the truth...we use exit polls when validating foreign elections

but here, when obvious discrepancies and blatant misprepresentations of the facts appear, anyone who brings it up is a conspiracy loon.

[Echo In Light]

36. The Establishment has gotten an astonishing amount of mileage in promoting the CT meme

It plays off of people's neurotic sense of fearing anyone 'different,' cause 'different' is only a few short steps away from "weird," and in so desperately wanting to appear on the 'winning' side of things ("normal" in accordance w/corporate culture ideals) many are willing to turn a blind eye to the painfully obvious conclusion that anyone objectively examining the data would arrive at.

Apparently it's better to suppose one's self safely amongst an incorrect majority than a factual minority.

[Flying Dream Blues]

37. Well said. nt

[Jim Lane]

31. But Gore would've fucked the country over just as badly, at least according to Ralph Nader

Lemme see, there was some power plant in Ohio that Gore supported that he should have opposed, ergo he was just as bad as Bush and there was no real difference between the two major-party candidates.

What's beyond me is how millions of people, including a hundred thousand in Florida, fell for THAT bullshit.

Yes, this has already been argued on DU a zillion times. But, no, I will never forgive Ralph Nader and I will never let him forget what he did. And this is coming from someone who used to be one of his biggest admirers.

[RFKHumphreyObama]

32. But...but...but...Boosh was a compassionate conservative and Gore fabricated stuff

That was the MSM meme coming out of every corner and unfailingly swallowed up by journalists who were too sloppy, self-entitled and in love with corporatism to check their facts or report objectively. The media, for the most part, covered * with doe-eyed admiration and glossed over his mistakes and vile past while exaggerating and fabricating Gore and taking him out of context at every opportunity. When Gore performed well at a debate, he was "elitist" and "condescending" whereas when Boosh made a mistake it was always just "good ol' , goofy lovable George". And then when Gore had the audacity -I MEAN the actual audacity -to insist that on votes being counted fairly and properly, he became a "sore loser". And meanwhile Lieberman didn't help with his pathetic, simpering "let's forget about it and move on"

I will never forgive the MSM for their role in that election -they are every bit as culpable as * in the suppression of democracy that year and the events that followed. Most of my idealism and hope died during the * years and it is only starting to flicker again under Obama. My anger at *, the Supreme Court and the media remains undiminished and as red hot as ever.

[Echo In Light]

35. Many were aware of Big Plans underway, & those who didn't followed the script unquestioningly

Plus the whole Nader Mythology, which even Gore himself disavows, helped in providing a 'patsy' of sorts for political gamesters to absorb into their worldview, ensuring a less favorable view of those 'too left' of the mainstream Dems.