If President Obama is playing 10-level chess,

[Are_grits_groceries]

he needs to understand that a lot of people can barely handle tic-tac-toe.

It is beyond most to see the endgame in a series of seemingly tenuously related moves.

I would be included in the group who can't see some endgames if that is what he is doing. I play chess, but not at the level some assume where policy is being made.

He has only been in office 9 months which is admittedly a short amount of time. However, if moves are being made to the side, backwards, and using fairly unknown pieces, it is hard to see any progress at times.

Maybe some will all work out with a surprise "checkmate." That may require more faith and hope than people have.

[cliffordu]

1. Or maybe this shit just takes a lot more time than we'd like to admit.

I want it all done right now, too...

I'll wait for three years from now and then see what's what.

[Are_grits_groceries]

2. It will take a lot of time in a lot of cases.

People want instant gratification.

[Orsino]

3. It can't possibly be done quickly enough....

...and people are dying in the meantime. Yet chess, slow as it is, may get much more done in the long run.

[vadawg]

4. can he not play speed chess or is this one of those wait one hundred years to see the end result

chess can take forever especially if you are taking a long time to make a move...

[Are_grits_groceries]

5. I don't know if he is playing 10-level chess

as some maintain. If people could see glimmers of the moves, it would help. I don't think you can at 10 levels.

[CJCRANE]

10. He's just one man, he can't change everything overnight nt

[KoKo]

32. Maybe Obama wants to play "Absent at the Wheel" and let the "Rest of Us" CHANGE our Government?

Maybe this is the TRUE CHANGE...WE CAN BELIEVE IN. Not a President elected by Lobbyists/Special Interests ...but an ANGRY POPULACE...finally TAKING MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS?

Sorry for Cap Lock..but most folks here on DU only reply to "heated comments." Sometimes one has to SHOUT to be heard over the "UNRECOMMEND." :-D

[Fumesucker]

6. It's eleven dimensional, not ten.. Much more difficult..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory

In theoretical physics, M-theory is an extension of string theory in which 11 dimensions are identified. Because the dimensionality exceeds the dimensionality of five superstring theories in 10 dimensions, it is believed that the 11-dimensional theory unifies all string theories (and supersedes them).

[CJCRANE]

7. It's more like he's playing 10 games of chess simultaneously

[CJCRANE]

8. _

[deaniac21]

9. I just wish he wasn't playing.

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[CJCRANE]

13. "nobody vetted him"...

which planet are you on?

Sounds like a comment from FoxNation.

[Fumesucker]

14. Everyone starts off being an amateur at being POTUS..

Nobody is a pro at that job when they start, your criticism doesn't hold water.

[notesdev]

15. Maybe

but there's a vast gulf between how prepared Obama was vs. how prepared a person who ran something - anything but a campaign - would be.

Obama had zero executive experience, and zero private sector experience - it would be hard to be less prepared than he was. And it shows; right now, Nancy Pelosi effectively runs the country in conjunction with Goldman Sachs.

[Fumesucker]

17. Nancy Pelosi couldn't organize an orgy in a brothel..

Unfortunate as that image might be. :)

Goldman Sachs; well, they were going to be running the country no matter *who* was elected, both parties are bought and paid for, so Obama doesn't make any difference anyway.

[notesdev]

19. Well, that's why

health care has turned out to be such a debacle. The guy was elected to lead, but he has exactly zero leadership experience; all his experience is as a (junior) legislator, one of a crowd of a hundred or more, and not in any leadership position. So the leadership void is filled on the one hand by Nancy acting like the country is hers to run (which it is, as long as no one is willing to stand up for an alternative), and on the other hand by corporations which have been completely unhindered in looting the country top to bottom.

What we need is for Obama to turn into Teddy Roosevelt, bust the trusts, and show some actual leadership in something that can really help the country.

[Fumesucker]

20. Nah, Obama's getting just what he wants..

He knows who really runs the country and it damn sure ain't the voters.

[emulatorloo]

27. What is this, a Republican Fund Raising Letter? Oh THAT ALL POWERFUL DEMON NANCY PELOSI!!!!!!!!!!!

n/t

[bvar22]

33. !

NOW we have Your Children’s Money too !!!
And there is not a fucking thing you can do about it!
Now THIS is you achieve a "bi-partisan consensus"!
Better get used to it!!
Hahahahahahahahaha!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

12. Is reissuing the Patriot Act part of that game? Is continued surveillence part of that endgame.

Escalating Afghanistan? Putting ex corp whores on the payroll part of the endgame? Is pursuing and supporting DOMA in the courts part of that endgame too? How about leaving Gitmo open and rendition? Still part of the endgame? Or letting Repukes go free and Siegelman still not being exonerated? How about not providing LEADERSHIP for true health care reform?

[Oregone]

22. Yes, this all becomes a vital and integral part of the plan in 2039, after the Bohner Revolt

He is pure genius

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

26. ...

:thumbsup:

[Davis_X_Machina]

16. Face it...

...the problem is most of DU actually wanted a Bush, or a Cheney, of our very own, and are now miffed they didn't get one.

The longing for rule-by-decree, and a fundamental distrust of parliamentary government, is completely bi-partisan.

[Democrats_win]

18. DU posters predicted that Obama's moderation would fail.

If you've read DU posts over the past year-and-a-half, you would remember the prediction that Obama's plan to reach out to the GOP was the wrong move. The impeachment of Clinton, the theft of the 2000 election, the unpatriot act and the illegal wars should tell any decent person that the GOP is against America. The prediction of the failure of moderation was the easiest idea in history.

Now we see the reality: a stimulus plan that was modified to fail in order to appease America's enemies: the right wing members of congress. We also have the failure to protect American home owners from the vulturous banksters by not passing the 'cram-down' legislation. We see how the credit card companies have circumvented the usury card legislation. Face it, Obama has let us down at a time we could not afford this failure. After 30 years of an economic equation that unbalanced the economy toward the rich, we needed radical legislation to stem the tide. What we got not only failed to balance anything, it failed to ease the suffering from the bush depression.

[debbierlus]

23. Amen

[debbierlus]

21. Read this and tell me about '10 level chess'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6752158

That isn't chess. It is selling out.

[Blue_In_AK]

28. Bill Moyers' Journal was extremely sobering this week,

even more than usual.

[elocs]

24. Sorry, I don't buy any of the Obama as the Kung-Fu Zen Master playing 10 level chess

who has everything figured out. It's a nice fantasy though. If things go south we won't be hearing from the people making those kinds of claims again. They will just slink away.

[Greyhound]

25. If...

Hope...

Faith...

More like wishful thinking. What has been done is clear and the sooner people start looking at what has been done instead of listening to what they say they will do, the better off we will all be.

[bvar22]

29. Unfortunately, Obam IS playing chess.

Chess is a game where The Pawns (Working Americans + The Poor) are sacrificed to protect The Royalty (Wall Street Bankers and Global Corporations).

Yes, sadly, Obama IS playing chess.

[NAO]

30. What Bush II did in his first 8 months of his first term

he was not even the clear winner; had no "mandate"; and yet his implemented hundreds if not thousands of policy items thru executive orders, appointments, etc.

Documented by Graydon Carter (editor of Vanity Fair) in his 2004 book, "WHAT WE'VE LOST".


I had hoped Obama would un-do everything that could be undone with executive order, and also issue batches of executive orders every day since he took office.

[KoKo]

31. This is worth a read...don't understand the "Unrecs" except for the trolls.

Those Trolls who want TRUTH and DISCUSSION to be Suppressed...