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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 10:52 PM
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"Nobel Shock shows America oblivious to its reign of terror " (answers why President Obama won NPP)
Nobel Shock shows America oblivious to its reign of terror

by Nashville fan
Fri Oct 09, 2009 at 04:34:51 PM PDT

I find it truly mind boggling how very insulated and oblivous most Americans are to the sheer hell we have put the world through over the last 8 years.

President Obama deserves the Nobel Prize for bucking the conventional wisdom in BOTH political parties and charting a course for PEACE.

Nashville fan's diary :: ::

Why did the President win the Nobel Peace prize?

- Because he ended the policy of pre-emptive war, which basically stated that the United States can do whatever the hell it wants.

- Because he ended the mindless policy of not talking to our enemies. If you won't talk to someone, how can you make peace with them?

- Because the world was weary of America's capricious selection of enemies
based on our economic interests. A wink and a nod for China, our banker, and bombs for everyone else.

- Because after a war based on lies which killed THOUSANDS if not MILLIONS of Iraqis, America has been smeared by the blood of all the innocents whose only crime was to be living in the wrong oil rich country at the wrong time.

- Because he ended the policy of torture and secret prisons and lawlessness that saw agents of OUR country terrorizing people around the globe.

These changes were not small ones and not to be belittled
. . . we came within 7 percentage points of World War III, with Senator McCain wanting to take Georgia into Nato and go to war with Russia AND Iran.

Those folks cheering in the streets around the world weren't cheering for the "first black President". They were cheering for an end of tyranny and oppression from the "shining beacon on the hill".

We take all these things for granted, because the bombs don't blow up here, the carnage doesn't fill the streets here, President Bush said it plainly - we fight them over THERE so we don't have to fight them here.

So we Americans are oblvious and shocked at the impact our President has had on the lives of billions of people around the world, who once again can view the stars and stripes as a sign of a friend, and not a foe.

President Obama EARNED the Nobel prize by ignoring the "conventional wisdom" that said negotiating is weak, admitting error is weak, working in alliances is weak and finally recognizing that ALL PEOPLE are precious in God's sight, not just Americans.

Well done, Mr. President. Well done.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/9/791680/-Nobel-Shock-shows-America-oblivious-to-its-reign-of-terror
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:08 PM
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1. Well stated. Thanks for posting.
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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 11:13 PM
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2. Cheers!!!! (nt)
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 08:47 AM
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3. kick
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:01 AM
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4. American Myopia...
This award shows how disconnected the US is from the rest of the world. For decades our media has viewed world events strictly in "how does it affect the US" and in as simplest of terms as possible. This was easy during the Cold War and then in the 90's the boogiemen were shifted from the Soviets to the Arabs...simialar rhetoric, similar broadstrokes. It's led some to believe not only in American superiority but to view those who don't share that view as "unpatriotic". Little is known or described about external cultures and histories as all conflicts are viewed in "American values".

President Obama represents a massive change in tone and approach after 8 years of cowboy "diplomacy". boooosh had created such bad will around the world that the US had become a rogue nation. President Obama in his brief appearance on the national and world stage was able to wipe away that status and to bring the US back into the world community. He dialogues rather than confronts. Gone is the "you're with us or against us" mantra and nuance diplomacy is back.

No, President Obama hasn't ended wars he didn't start...and has had to struggle to get a handle on these conflicts, but his openess to negotiate rather than invade has made the world a far safer place. For that, a peace prize is fully deserved. But there's more work to do and from his statement yesterday, I believe the President knows this as well.
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TxRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:21 AM
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6. But is he really a better choice really than men like this
http://www.riifs.org/index_misc/HRH_Niwano%20Prize.htm

Who were supposedly nominated as well in the field of over 200

Considering Nobel's intent as stated in his will?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:33 AM
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7. The Nobel Committee Felt Otherwise...
I, like everyone else, including the President were caught by surprise. He didn't lobby for the prize and the Nobel committee felt his victory last year and his radically different approach to foreign diplomacy represented a more massive change that is making dialogue happen on several fronts.

Yes, the field was large and there are many worthy candidates. Hopefully some will be recognized in years ahead, but the question here isn't why he got it as much as trying to explain what his selection means. I'd like to think this award belongs to many of us who worked hard not only to elect President Obama but to drive the rushpublicans away from the levers of power that definitely has resulted in a more peaceful world.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 09:13 AM
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5. Where was this great piece yesterday when I needed to dispatch a freeper at work?
Rec'd.
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busybl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:02 AM
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8. well said
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 10:49 AM
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9. Every DUer should read this before demanding "proof" as to why Obama received the award.
Edited on Sat Oct-10-09 10:50 AM by Mrs. Overall
I think we have no idea what the impact to the rest of the world was during the Bush years. I also think the handling of 9/11 was traumatic for our allies as well.

And lastly, the Nobel Prize is always "political" in some way--one just needs to go back over the history of the prize and the winners. There is nothing "pure" about the motivation of deciding to whom it is given.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 02:54 PM
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10. kick
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