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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:13 AM Original message |
Do Elite Private Colleges Discriminate Against Asian Students? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. this was certainly the case in california before |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Honestly, be careful of what you are saying here |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. what i am saying is statistical fact |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I don't dispute the facts--I say it is not a "discrimination" case |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. if you don't dispute the facts |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. There you go again, using the word "discriminate" |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. by definition |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. But what are the standards? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Asian kids have lesser personality, talents, interests? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:32 PM Original message |
I'm sure some do |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
16. nobody said |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I don't disagree |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
19. Can we agree that Asian kids have, on average, the highest test scores? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I'm not arguing about generalized characteristics of any |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. great, but that's not the point |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. If the reason they were not admitted is based on their |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. imo |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Absolutely |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. of course that is true |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. The standards are wide and varied... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Yes, thank you |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 04:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
32. To maintain a diverse campus, universities have to "discriminate" (seperate standards for |
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mamaleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. How is it not discimination to not admit a student because he is Asian??? |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I think it's also important to remember that |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. and prior to legislation |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Happened years ago to Jewish students, as highly qualified, |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. Heh. One of the awkward things about being the so-called "good minority". |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
15. This certainly looks to be a case where students with higher scores |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
25. I remember an admissions dean from UPenn on Oprah: "Asians would be 40% of admissions if..." |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. It does get to be sticky when you limit one minority to benefit other minorities (and perhaps some |
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Seeking Serenity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
26. "They're boring" |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
29. Standardized tests are biased in favor of Asians. nt |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 04:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I don't know if there is any truth to that. |
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taught_me_patience (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
30. Asians often have last names that are easy to identify |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 04:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Our son, a junior in college now, is 1/2 Asian with a "white" last name. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 04:44 AM Response to Original message |
34. It's affirmative action in reverse |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
35. These stats are from 1997? 12 years ago? |
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